Pelosi disinvites Trump to deliver State of Union to Congress = huge oppy for Trump and GOP

rolltide · Jan 16, 2019

...but this doesn't mean he can't simply deliver it to his own hand-picked audience and speak to Americans without TV cameras showing Libs disapproval while he's talking

Sorry, Nance, but this is a power-grab that will completely backfire on you. You've just set Trump up to steal the entire narrative around border security, the ongoing fabulous economy, and who's really responsible for the government shutdown.

At least if he gave this speech to Congress, as has been done for 116 years, you and your fellow Liberals could get equal airtime showing your disdain for Trump with a flat-across face, a shake of the head, or the good 'ol thumbs-down sign
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NOW, you allow Trump and the GOP to gain control of the narrative. Question is, are they smart enough to realize this? #%()

WoodStool · Jan 16, 2019

The government is going on a month now with the shut down. As long as this continues the leader will take the blame and it will be next to impossible for the GOP to gain control of the narrative.

The GOP is losing on this shut down to the same extent that dems lost on Kavaughn(sp). This shut down though is carrying on longer then his hearings.

Dave007inVegas · Jan 16, 2019

rolltide said:
...but this doesn't mean he can't simply deliver it to his own hand-picked audience and speak to Americans without TV cameras showing Libs disapproval while he's talking

Sorry, Nance, but this is a power-grab that will completely backfire on you. You've just set Trump up to steal the entire narrative around border security, the ongoing fabulous economy, and who's really responsible for the government shutdown.

At least if he gave this speech to Congress, as has been done for 116 years, you and your fellow Liberals could get equal airtime showing your disdain for Trump with a flat-across face, a shake of the head, or the good 'ol thumbs-down sign
:>(

NOW, you allow Trump and the GOP to gain control of the narrative. Question is, are they smart enough to realize this? #%()

Duh! You think?

Dave007inVegas · Jan 16, 2019

WoodStool said:
The government is going on a month now with the shut down. As long as this continues the leader will take the blame and it will be next to impossible for the GOP to gain control of the narrative.

The GOP is losing on this shut down to the same extent that dems lost on Kavaughn(sp). This shut down though is carrying on longer then his hearings.

Says who?

WoodStool · Jan 16, 2019

Dave007inVegas said:
Says who?

Trumps approval ratings have declined since the shutdown...as they rose during the supreme court hearings.

Avocado33 · Jan 16, 2019

Don’t see how Republicans can turn the narrative as long as the shutdown continues.

WoodStool · Jan 16, 2019

StanfordSam said:
Don’t see how Republicans can turn the narrative as long as the shutdown continues.

O great...the Rx Scammer agrees with me. ##)

SheriffJoe · Jan 16, 2019

WoodStool said:
Trumps approval ratings have declined since the shutdown...as they rose during the supreme court hearings.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...l_report_little_personal_impact_from_shutdown

Nobody cares about the Pelosi-Schumer shutdown except Fake News.

This isn't about Trump.

They promised us border security in 1986, and again in 2006.

Time's up.

BUILD THE WALL, DEPORT THEM ALL!

SheriffJoe · Jan 16, 2019

WoodStool · Jan 16, 2019

Sheriff Joe said:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...l_report_little_personal_impact_from_shutdown

Nobody cares about the Pelosi-Schumer shutdown except Fake News.

This isn't about Trump.

They promised us border security in 1986, and again in 2006.

Time's up.

BUILD THE WALL, DEPORT THEM ALL!

The same could be said about the confirmation of Kavaugh(sp). Most couldn't care less of who sat on the supreme court. But it did bump Trump's approval rating the same as this is declining it...

Dave007inVegas · Jan 16, 2019

WoodStool said:
The same could be said about the confirmation of Kavaugh(sp). Most couldn't care less of who sat on the supreme court. But it did bump Trump's approval rating the same as this is declining it...

And once again I ask, says who?

rolltide · Jan 16, 2019

StanfordSam said:
Don’t see how Republicans can turn the narrative as long as the shutdown continues.

will be very difficult but giving Trump an opportunity to steal the narrative is stupid as hell. It's like calling a pass on 3rd and 8 when you're up 6 on your 25 yard line with :55 left in the game and opponent has no timeouts left. hopefully this backfired on the loons but, sigh, I doubt the GOP is smart enough to take advantage

SheriffJoe · Jan 16, 2019

rolltide said:
will be very difficult but giving Trump an opportunity to steal the narrative is stupid as hell. It's like calling a pass on 3rd and 8 when you're up 6 on your 25 yard line with :55 left in the game and opponent has no timeouts left. hopefully this backfired on the loons but, sigh, I doubt the GOP is smart enough to take advantage

No, the GOP isn't smart enough but Trump certainly is. You know he's going to seize on this and hold his own SOTU somewhere, either from the Oval Office or probably in a huge venue with thousands of supporters.

Avocado33 · Jan 16, 2019

rolltide said:
will be very difficult but giving Trump an opportunity to steal the narrative is stupid as hell. It's like calling a pass on 3rd and 8 when you're up 6 on your 25 yard line with :55 left in the game and opponent has no timeouts left. hopefully this backfired on the loons but, sigh, I doubt the GOP is smart enough to take advantage

Yeah undoubetdly a dumb, petty move on Pelosi’s part. But they have enough cushion to probably get away with it.

Avocado33 · Jan 16, 2019

WoodStool said:
O great...the Rx Scammer agrees with me. ##)

Don’t flatter yourself, “ghost of the Rx”

Dave007inVegas · Jan 16, 2019

StanfordSam said:
Don’t see how Republicans can turn the narrative as long as the shutdown continues.

The only reason people blieve that this is going badly for Trump is the Media keeps saying it is and people belive them.

Believe what you see not what you read.

Avocado33 · Jan 16, 2019

Dave007inVegas said:
The only reason people blieve that this is going badly for Trump is the Media keeps saying it is and people belive them.

Believe what you see not what you read.

Don’t think it’s the end of the world for Trump or some sort of stain on presidency, but hard to argue that this isn’t a negative for him. Not really sure how you can spin it the other way

rolltide · Jan 16, 2019

Sheriff Joe said:
No, the GOP isn't smart enough but Trump certainly is. You know he's going to seize on this and hold his own SOTU somewhere, either from the Oval Office or probably in a huge venue with thousands of supporters.

giving him too much credit. if he was smart enough he's have taken pelosi and schumer apart on live TV when the 4 of them (i believe pence was standing in corner with a dunce cap on) were talking about corder security. Sitting in front of them and never mentioning that both of them, especially chuck, have not only supported border wall funds but even pleaded to Congress to pass bills during the Obama administration showed how bad he is at politics

PatsFan1283 · Jan 16, 2019

If he was smart, he wouldn't have waited two years into his Presidency to tackle immigration after the Dems take the house.

Those 15k people gathering for his speeches wasn't because corporate tax cuts was the #1 issue why he stomped the rest of the GOP field.

Coming into office is when he had more numbers, potential leverage to make D senators in red states run against it, real political capital, leverage within his own party (you want tax cuts? I want this) etc, etc

Now the globalists basically are just running out the clock. Pelosi/Schumer will look like total jackasses in the process, but if you want open borders then there has to be a few sacrificial lambs along the way.

Dave007inVegas · Jan 16, 2019

StanfordSam said:
Don’t think it’s the end of the world for Trump or some sort of stain on presidency, but hard to argue that this isn’t a negative for him. Not really sure how you can spin it the other way

This is what I mean. Headline from Washington Post...

Most Americans oppose the wall — and oppose ending the shutdown by funding it

Now when you go to the article you find it's a poll and it's not MOST but a small majority.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...down-by-funding-it/ar-BBSk4ua?ocid=spartanntp

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