1/3 NL hand

bigbet1234 · Jan 18, 2019

Dealt AA. I raise $20, get 2 callers. Flop comes 2H 5C 10C. I’m first to act. I raise to $45, player 2 folds, player 3 goes all in $200.

Let’s here hear it, what would you do?

terps1313 · Jan 18, 2019

It's a snap call for me. If he happened to flop a set, so be it.

EastCoastBias · Jan 18, 2019

1010 IMO would have reraised you preflop. I’d rule that out. I believe you are looking at a set of 22 or 55 OR an agro player jamming 10J / A10, etc. because of his all in size and what you led with this is a call every time.

festeringZit · Jan 18, 2019

I would call...

EastCoastBias · Jan 18, 2019

Ask overlooked the club draw flop. KQcc very possible. As others have said, it’s a call.

Hotpizza · Jan 18, 2019

Only question is what did you do, what did he have and what was the outcome.

skins85 · Jan 18, 2019

Hotpizza said:
Only question is what did you do, what did he have and what was the outcome.

what a letdown if he just folded

jaws2357 · Jan 18, 2019

call, he's on a flush draw

EastCoastBias · Jan 18, 2019

jaws2357 said:
call, he's on a flush draw

Agreed. 78cc or KQcc.

HarryCaray · Jan 18, 2019

Move all your betting disks into the middle of the table immediately.
You're ahead of his bluffs and draws and even most of his value range.
If you're beat you're beat.

FTR I'm guessing he has AT/99 type of hand and was protecting from the AK/AQ part of your range. Seen a ton of that.

niltes · Jan 18, 2019

it really depends upon the player. if you are really sure he is very solid or tight; then i'd muck.
on the other hand, there are not many really solid or tight players in a 1-3 game ; so
it's very tough to lay it down. on a side note, if he has 10x, or 5x, or2x of clubs;
then the outcome is very close to a coin flip. if you hold the ace clubs,
then you become a bigger favorite. if he has ace x of clubs, then you are a much
bigger favorite. if he has 34 clubs then it also close to a coin flip. opponent's
best drawing hand would probably be 56 or 26 of clubs.

festeringZit · Jan 18, 2019

niltes said:
it really depends upon the player. if you are really sure he is very solid or tight; then i'd muck.
on the other hand, there are not many really solid or tight players in a 1-3 game ; so
it's very tough to lay it down. on a side note, if he has 10x, or 5x, or2x of clubs;
then the outcome is very close to a coin flip. if you hold the ace clubs,
then you become a bigger favorite. if he has ace x of clubs, then you are a much
bigger favorite. if he has 34 clubs then it also close to a coin flip. opponent's
best drawing hand would probably be 56 or 26 of clubs.

Only way I'm folding is if a known very tight player pushes. There are just so many hands that push here that you have beat. Club draw, KK, QQ, JJ...and then you get dunks that will push Aten, 34 and other garbage. Shit, I had a guy push
$100 with a gut shot a few days ago. I call it off and of course he hits.

bigbet1234 · Jan 18, 2019

HarryCaray said:
Move all your betting disks into the middle of the table immediately.
You're ahead of his bluffs and draws and even most of his value range.
If you're beat you're beat.

FTR I'm guessing he has AT/99 type of hand and was protecting from the AK/AQ part of your range. Seen a ton of that.

That’s my thought, but I’m new to this. I snap called his ass and he flopped trip 5’s. I just got to the table, so no time for a read on his play

bigbet1234 · Jan 18, 2019

festeringZit said:
Only way I'm folding is if a known very tight player pushes. There are just so many hands that push here that you have beat. Club draw, KK, QQ, JJ...and then you get dunks that will push Aten, 34 and other garbage. Shit, I had a guy push
$100 with a gut shot a few days ago. I call it off and of course he hits.

I agree. I need to stick with math and not what I think will happen. blackjack I can do math all day and not think about it, poker, I look or hope for prayers, not good. I’m learning because I don’t understand the math yet, but I’ll soon understand the 16 vs 10, and A7 hit vs 10 in BJ like poker

VIEJODINOSAUR · Jan 18, 2019

You call and just say nice hand after the river.....

bigbet1234 · Jan 18, 2019

festeringZit said:
Only way I'm folding is if a known very tight player pushes. There are just so many hands that push here that you have beat. Club draw, KK, QQ, JJ...and then you get dunks that will push Aten, 34 and other garbage. Shit, I had a guy push
$100 with a gut shot a few days ago. I call it koff and of course he hits.

Was me opening up $20 raise good then followed by a $45 raise? Have you found being more aggressive beats those hands? I know it’s rare what he got, and my goal was sucking as much cash as I could with my edge......poker site intrigues me. Ha

eventhorizon · Jan 19, 2019

The $45 bet was okay but the $20 might have been a bit much seeing you were 1st to act. I don't like to get too aggressive with hands in an early position. Position means a lot in poker.

festeringZit · Jan 19, 2019

bigbet1234 said:
Was me opening up $20 raise good then followed by a $45 raise? Have you found being more aggressive beats those hands? I know it’s rare what he got, and my goal was sucking as much cash as I could with my edge......poker site intrigues me. Ha

Actually the $45 was just a flop bet, not a raise...

A hand like that you can't get away from (at least I can't). Neither of you are folding, all the money is going in...

HarryCaray · Jan 19, 2019

event horizon said:
The $45 bet was okay but the $20 might have been a bit much seeing you were 1st to act. I don't like to get too aggressive with hands in an early position. Position means a lot in poker.

Position is less relevant with a hand like aces. You're suggesting pussyfooting around with AA cause you are in EP?
Checking flop is bad against most opponents. Good players will check behind and thank you for the free card. This is how you get your aces cracked.
Not to mention there are so many hands you can get value from, including bluffs from a player who believes there is no way you caught a piece of that.
Biggest mistake I see people make is getting too fancy against bad players. If you have good hand bet it. Way more good things can happen.

Flop bet is fine. Preflop raise seems high but I guess dependent on table dynamics and if there were limpers before.

bigbet1234 · Jan 19, 2019

HarryCaray said:
Position is less relevant with a hand like aces. You're suggesting pussyfooting around with AA cause you are in EP?
Checking flop is bad against most opponents. Good players will check behind and thank you for the free card. This is how you get your aces cracked.
Not to mention there are so many hands you can get value from, including bluffs from a player who believes there is no way you caught a piece of that.
Biggest mistake I see people make is getting too fancy against bad players. If you have good hand bet it. Way more good things can happen.

Flop bet is fine. Preflop raise seems high but I guess dependent on table dynamics and if there were limpers before.

So you’re saying my s20 raise was too much?