Have to get this off my chest, lol. The NFL should be both embarrassed and ashamed of their league. The officiating this year has been atrocious at best. Phantom penalties and missed flagrant fouls were the norm this year. The game has lost all credibility. It has become a money machine for entertainment purposes only, similar to the WWF. It has gotten really painful to watch. In the most important NFC game of the year, the refs were a blatant disaster, robbing the Saints of a Super Bowl appearance. I am beginning to think the games are scripted and fixed. It is a long way away from when I remember watching the NFL 20 or so years ago. Seems like money and greed has taken over. Sorry for the rant.
There isnt much else to say..pretty much everything I was thinking. Been watching nfl and gambling on it since I was 12..using parlay cards to start..there were bad calls back then as well but it seemed that human error factored in more due to no instant replay to overturn a call. I think all of us gamblers thought it would be great to have reviewable instant replay to help make the right calls and to ensure that what we bet on has a legitimate outcome. But even with instant replay we still see the wrong call being made. Some people say quit whining and bitching because you lost. Bad calls even themselves out they say. In 2007 I won the rigged superbowl with the Steelers but i still bitched about the officiating. I didnt watch the nfl for about 2 years after that and rarely watched an entire game anymore. Was thinking not all games are rigged and when I do bet, just try to be on the right side of the rig. Now fantasy football along with the attempt to protect players from injury seems to have an influence on the rules and the game during the regular season but in the playoffs there is alot less flags. Is there less holding and pass interference all of a sudden in late december and January? Then on today's saints game some people will say that's why you have to play better and not leave it up to the refs. But the refs did determine the outcome by not calling a pi penalty that has been in rule book forever and/or 1 of the 2 newer rules of helmet to helmet and/or hitting a defenseless receiver. I'm done with this game.
Yep. If you follow point spreads, you can see how things influence the game one way or the other. From it’s inception it has ALWAYS been entertainment. See joe Namath guaranteeing a AB win before the game was ever played. Bookies owned the teams, and they created an entertainment for the masses.
Not only that, you’d have to separate the teams into actual teams where team merchandise and stadium seating ect was given to THAT team only; eliminating consolidatio. do that? And at minimum, half the teams fizzle to nothing and NFL loses all steam, ratings and fades into the sunset cause it’s be 6 teams fighting yr in yr out. Won’t happen, ain’t happ’n, never happ’n
Pats should never have won sb against Atlanta biggest fixe ever n against Seattle was horrible ist n goal Seattle on pats 1.5 yd line 40 secs 1 T-O left with marshon lynch who ran all overvpats that day n he never touched ball plus they throw on ist s down n intercepted unreal call pats win again
With the major emphasis on money. I laugh out loud when I see a bunch of millionaires on the field trying to look sad after they lose a football game. Blame the fans as much as the owners for supporting these charades (have you checked out the price of admission lately)......but aren't the half-time shows lovely....just what I always wanted to see at a football game.....Call professional football what it really is, a well orchestrated stage play
You saw that last week when what’s his name was caressed by the coach for his (I forget if it was a missed FG?) hiding in coaches jacket like he’s crying. Lmao yea...you give a shit whether you win or lose....if players wanted to actually win a SB? They’d pull an Eli Manning and say hell with playing for your shitty team. I’m going with the real winner lol. But no. They get paid all the same
Don’t forget the fabricated “tuc” rule against the raiders. Brady never reaches the Super Bowl that year.
the whole league is rigged and even a delusional NFL diehard should be able to see that after yesterday’s satire.
league is a complete joke and J’ai Alia has more credibility.
put your hous Ron NE in the Super Bowl
the whole league is rigged and even a delusional NFL diehard should be able to see that after yesterday’s satire.
league is a complete joke and J’ai Alia has more credibility.
put your hous Ron NE in the Super Bowl
Don't forget the flag in the KC/NE game as well
With two minutes to go in the game - the Chiefs get the interception that would have also sealed the game for them. But wait, one of their defensive lineman gets called for being in the neutral zone. Chances are he's been lining up this way several times during the course of the game without an issue. You don't suddenly alter your positioning on the line of scrimmage. But of course, he's flagged with the game on the line.
QUOTE=duckhunter;12772567]Have to get this off my chest, lol. The NFL should be both embarrassed and ashamed of their league. The officiating this year has been atrocious at best. Phantom penalties and missed flagrant fouls were the norm this year. The game has lost all credibility. It has become a money machine for entertainment purposes only, similar to the WWF. It has gotten really painful to watch. In the most important NFC game of the year, the refs were a blatant disaster, robbing the Saints of a Super Bowl appearance. I am beginning to think the games are scripted and fixed. It is a long way away from when I remember watching the NFL 20 or so years ago. Seems like money and greed has taken over. Sorry for the rant.[/QUOTE]
With two minutes to go in the game - the Chiefs get the interception that would have also sealed the game for them. But wait, one of their defensive lineman gets called for being in the neutral zone. Chances are he's been lining up this way several times during the course of the game without an issue. You don't suddenly alter your positioning on the line of scrimmage. But of course, he's flagged with the game on the line.
QUOTE=duckhunter;12772567]Have to get this off my chest, lol. The NFL should be both embarrassed and ashamed of their league. The officiating this year has been atrocious at best. Phantom penalties and missed flagrant fouls were the norm this year. The game has lost all credibility. It has become a money machine for entertainment purposes only, similar to the WWF. It has gotten really painful to watch. In the most important NFC game of the year, the refs were a blatant disaster, robbing the Saints of a Super Bowl appearance. I am beginning to think the games are scripted and fixed. It is a long way away from when I remember watching the NFL 20 or so years ago. Seems like money and greed has taken over. Sorry for the rant.[/QUOTE]
If you watch closely, there is offensive holding and pass interference or defensive back holding on almost every play, it seems they decide to call it at strategic times to help one team or another.
I do not think games are "scripted", no way the players* or coaches* are involved en mass.
I do not think Vegas controls anything, so that the side with the most action loses, to their benefit, especially games of this magnitude.
I think the NFL has officials, maybe only one or two on a crew, (that do not know the other is involved) have a team they want to win get the beneficial calls, if necessary, as needed. No emails, no texts, but are told. Did they want Kroenke in the Super Bowl yesterday? Did they want the Patriot brand to continue, one more year, with Kraft at the helm?
Yesterday, the official went too far with the non call on the Rams pass interference, and it is non reviewable, and they were stuck.
But there were plenty of calls in both games that seemed to favor the Rams and the Patriots, even after being reviewed, they seemed to be very questionable.
The NFL apparently decided that the public is tired of all the flags and let them play this year in the playoffs and it blew up in their face yesterday. DBs figured it out on some of the teams, it was ridiculous.
They need to have an option to review pass interference and other calls (like the roughing on Brady) without making the game even more ridiculous.
The NFL brand took another hit yesterday. KC did not touch the ball in OT, this is another problem.
And the NFL cannot legally fix games, since it is "entertainment", the notion that it is entertainment is not legally sound, that is nonsense.
(*yes in the history of the NFL some players or coaches along the way took a dive for some $$$)
I do not think games are "scripted", no way the players* or coaches* are involved en mass.
I do not think Vegas controls anything, so that the side with the most action loses, to their benefit, especially games of this magnitude.
I think the NFL has officials, maybe only one or two on a crew, (that do not know the other is involved) have a team they want to win get the beneficial calls, if necessary, as needed. No emails, no texts, but are told. Did they want Kroenke in the Super Bowl yesterday? Did they want the Patriot brand to continue, one more year, with Kraft at the helm?
Yesterday, the official went too far with the non call on the Rams pass interference, and it is non reviewable, and they were stuck.
But there were plenty of calls in both games that seemed to favor the Rams and the Patriots, even after being reviewed, they seemed to be very questionable.
The NFL apparently decided that the public is tired of all the flags and let them play this year in the playoffs and it blew up in their face yesterday. DBs figured it out on some of the teams, it was ridiculous.
They need to have an option to review pass interference and other calls (like the roughing on Brady) without making the game even more ridiculous.
The NFL brand took another hit yesterday. KC did not touch the ball in OT, this is another problem.
And the NFL cannot legally fix games, since it is "entertainment", the notion that it is entertainment is not legally sound, that is nonsense.
(*yes in the history of the NFL some players or coaches along the way took a dive for some $$$)
Xeno man, lol, I like you and all, but what is your post supposed to mean?
That the NFL told Pete Carroll to throw on the 2 yd line? That they told Dan Quinn to throw the ball when they should have been running it up huge?
I'm genuinely curious...how did the NFL make the Patriots win those games?
I guess the NFL told Tyree to make that helmet catch back in 07' right? I mean, any lucky break a team gets was orchestrated??
I don't know if it scripted but it definitely could be. The coaches script the first 15 plays. Well what if the defense know what's coming on those 15 plays? They would already be in position to stop it. They still have to play but it's an advantage nobody would be aware of. No players, only the HC. Add in an official that's in on it and he can coerce the game also.
Players can be bought. Not all of them but some. Many are criminals and broke within 5 years. You could easily have them drop a pass, fumble, not catch an int when they already in position, throw 2INTs etc. It's all possible and to keep them from talking you black mail the criminals, cut their pension. Reward them with multi million dollar contracts. It's plausible. After all its strictly an entertainment business. I wouldn't put anything past them.
I never stop laughing when I see the NFL attempting to resolve their problems by creating new one's, those players that don't want to stand for the National Anthem can wait in the locker-room is one example. Just wait until they install more camera's in the players restrooms so the fans (gamblers) can see which players have a bad case of "Montezuma's Revenge" (the shits) just like they do at the race tracks when the horses are viewed in the paddock dumping a few "apples".
If you think the officiating is bad now, wait until they bring women into the ranks.....rest assured, it's coming. Ah, yes, "The Wide World of Professional Football", how entertaining it is.
If you think the officiating is bad now, wait until they bring women into the ranks.....rest assured, it's coming. Ah, yes, "The Wide World of Professional Football", how entertaining it is.
We saw where WWF began and just how ridiculous it’s turned out to be. Now the NFL or the NFE (national football Entertainment) is becoming. It has never been an actual sporting event. When money can be bet on it? It’s tampered with. If they instilled betting lines on High School Football? You better believe the game would go sideways.
But none of your points answers my question.
He pointed out the Pats games against ATL and SEA were "biggest fix ever". I want to know what the hell that means?? He MUST be saying the league told Pete to throw as well as Dan, and they complied.
Do you really think thats humanly possible??
Refs miss calls on just about every play. Some or more egregious than others. Saints got screwed big time. Payton also made BIG mistakes.
But to say there are calls from the league office to coaches during the game saying "throw the game" I don't even know where to start with that lol.
And I disagree, these guys really can't be bought. They make millions and even more when they win the Superbowl. No point.
