Who should get more credit for the Patriots dynasty?

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Didn’t think there were enough Pats threads bumped considering the greatness of Tommy and Billy. We need more.

Tommy and Billy are the GOATs at what they do. But if you had to choose one to give more credit too? Tough call...

I think the Patriot fans might be the most honest with this question. Since they love both. No bias. Let’s hear it.
 

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Probably has been 5 threads of this exact topic started over the last few years
 

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Well, if you absolutely had to pick Belly had little success as a head coach before Brady. Brady has always had success
 

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Well, if you absolutely had to pick Belly had little success as a head coach before Brady. Brady has always had success

A competent QB is essential in the NFL. Did Bill have one in Cleveland? Bernie was done by the time Billy took over. He knew it and sent him to the scrap heap. Just didn’t have a worthy replacement.

Even the best of all time cant win with garbage.
 

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A competent QB is essential in the NFL. Did Bill have one in Cleveland? Bernie was done by the time Billy took over. He knew it and sent him to the scrap heap. Just didn’t have a worthy replacement.

Even the best of all time cant win with garbage.

You just answered your own question
 

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Nobody game plans better than Billy. Ever.

And nobody prepares and executes a game plan better than Tommy. Ever.

Brady is not the most talented QB of all time. But he’s the most successful at what he does. I think that makes him even more special. He does more with less.
 

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Your quote seemed to suggest Brady. Anyway..... Brady can and would win under an average coach. Belly isnt winning with an average QB. Yes, I do believe he is the best coach ever. Doesn't matter. Jordan was more important than Jackson and a great player always will be
 

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Your quote seemed to suggest Brady. Anyway..... Brady can and would win under an average coach. Belly isnt winning with an average QB. Yes, I do believe he is the best coach ever. Doesn't matter. Jordan was more important than Jackson and a great player always will be

Agree with Phil. But he definitely made a case for himself when he went to LA. Shaq and Kobe couldnt win a title together until he showed up.
 
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Didn’t think there were enough Pats threads bumped considering the greatness of Tommy and Billy. We need more.

Tommy and Billy are the GOATs at what they do. But if you had to choose one to give more credit too? Tough call...

I think the Patriot fans might be the most honest with this question. Since they love both. No bias. Let’s hear it.

On the contrary, Pats fans will be the most dishonest I believe because to them it's a blind love affair with Brady.

I give coach BILL the credit.

Garrapolo wins.

Matt Cassell goes 11-5.

It's coach Bill all the way. Give Brady his credit but don't get it twisted. Coach Bill made this dynasty. Some people just don't want to learn or understand football.
 
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Didn’t think there were enough Pats threads bumped considering the greatness of Tommy and Billy. We need more.



Tommy and Billy are the GOATs at what they do. But if you had to choose one to give more credit too? Tough call...



I think the Patriot fans might be the most honest with this question. Since they love both. No bias. Let’s hear it.



On the contrary, Pats fans will be the most dishonest I believe because to them it's a blind love affair with Brady.



I give coach BILL the credit.



Garrapolo wins.



Matt Cassell goes 11-5.



It's coach Bill all the way. Give Brady his credit but don't get it twisted. Coach Bill made this dynasty. Some people just don't want to learn or understand football. I'd like to see Brady outside a perfect system have to consistently make throws on the run cause of shit Olines or consistently, game in game out have to make several throws past 20 yards to win. That system is lethal believe me. If anybody understands the specifics and nuances of football they know what I mean.

Anybody ever play in beer leagues? (watch people mock me for this but it's true) I've seen this clown with a fantasy to play QB go out and get humiliated game in game out throwing 5 picks a game. Then this guy that played at the college level, a qb, starts writing up plays for him, some to beat zone D some to beat man D, and coaches him a bit, runs the offense, he wrote the play on little memo cards, laminated them for the QB to keep in pocket. He used those plays and was a totally different player and starting scoring and looked like a real QB.

I know people will laugh but football is that way. An excellent system and play calling is HUGE! Football is won by schemes and game plan more than any other sport. That's why one team can upset another on any given day when each is at their best unlike other sports where the talent by players usually wins out. Coach is HUGE in football.

Meh, I know I'm wasting my time. Fuck it.

Later peeps.
 

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we know in Bama it’s Nick obviously, but Tom is constant in NE as well.
With the system in place the parts are interchangeable. Although I think Tom is the best part even the others would get the job done.

Walsh carried on in SF with Young, will be interesting to see why BB does.
 
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I speak on whether these pussy ass bitches win or not. If I let them win then they can win. If not, then they not winning shit. Fuck them
 

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