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    Scoresandodds had Murray -1000 to go 1st this entire time, and now the bet is off the board. Weird
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    cardinal fan here...all a smokescreen... de or lb...won't draft murray
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    I doubt it is a smokescreen. If it is and you are sticking w/ Rosen then that is a lot to put him through as far as his career being in limbo because of all this speculation. That would be asburd.

    Maybe they get a godfather offer and take it but seems likely they pick Murray.
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    Kyler Murray rushed to the left for 1 yard touchdown (Matt Prater made PAT)


    7-0 AZ
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    There's a lot of WRONG in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Love View Post
    There's a lot of WRONG in this thread.

    that was a pretty good read.

    funny how we spoke josh Rosen and Tannehill
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    Murray has not proven anything yet
    Not even a winning season
    Suck? No
    Gotta hold up on being anything special
    But we will see how good he is

    Rght now imo he is a good QB
    Very good...great...elite?
    Years will tell
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    Quote Originally Posted by exploited17 View Post
    Murray has not proven anything yet
    Uh, yes he has. He's in his 3rd year now and his play has gotten better every year. Not only a great playmaker with his legs, but he's proven to be a very legitimate passer as well.

    The title of this thread claims he will suck. And he's 100% proven that claim to be wrong. He's one of the most dynamic players in the league. Far from suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Love View Post
    Uh, yes he has. He's in his 3rd year now and his play has gotten better every year. Not only a great playmaker with his legs, but he's proven to be a very legitimate passer as well.

    The title of this thread claims he will suck. And he's 100% proven that claim to be wrong. He's one of the most dynamic players in the league. Far from suck.
    He has proven he doesn't suck?
    Okay congrats lol
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    I like ARZ's offense, we will see about their defense this week, tho.

    Last two weeks, their D was nothing like the way they played in Week 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmallDaddy View Post
    I like ARZ's offense, we will see about their defense this week, tho.
    The Rams have absolutely owned AZ since McVay arrived in LA. The Cardinals have never beat McVay. And I bet the average margin of victory is somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 points. Complete domination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmallDaddy View Post
    Last two weeks, their D was nothing like the way they played in Week 1
    Weird they were able to destroy Tennessee's offensive line and knock Tannehill around with ease all game. Yet hardly pressured Cousins at all. Then didn't get much pressure on Lawrence until the 2nd half when they knew the Jags had to start slinging it.

    Whatever those two teams did with their pass pro adjustments to slow down the AZ pass rush worked like a charm.
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    HE will bet up on the seemingly hapless Seahawks D backs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Love View Post
    The Rams have absolutely owned AZ since McVay arrived in LA. The Cardinals have never beat McVay. And I bet the average margin of victory is somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 points. Complete domination.

    Nice little gambling nugget for Sunday.

    I wonder if the O-line cannot handle Aaron Donald?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightrofins View Post
    Nice little gambling nugget for Sunday.

    I wonder if the O-line cannot handle Aaron Donald?
    Donald's domination has definitely been a huge factor. And obviously the past 4 seasons the Rams have been very good, while AZ has been pretty bad up until last season when they finished 8-8.

    Scores the last 8 meetings since McVay took over in LA:

    LA 33 AZ 0
    LA 32 AZ 16
    LA 34 AZ 0
    LA 31 AZ 9
    LA 34 AZ 7
    LA 31 AZ 24
    LA 38 AZ 28
    LA 18 AZ 7

    Average score 31-11.

    The Cardinals offense has been noticeably more competitive with LA since Murray arrived. Rams scored at least 30 every meeting with the exception of the last game last season. Rams were playing with a backup QB in that one.
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    About 7 years ago the thread starter told us the NFL would be dominated by Andrew Luck and whoever drafts Josh Rosen in 5 years .
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    The starter was Vlad.

    He let his racist views cloud his judgement re the then upcoming crop of pass / run QBs.
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    You can't really dispute Murray is a very good player at this point.
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    Satisfying to watch his success despite the naysayers

    I still think the team as a whole is not that good though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acebb View Post
    You can't really dispute Murray is a very good player at this point.
    You'd have to be pretty retarded to even attempt to dispute it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avocado33 View Post
    I still think the team as a whole is not that good though
    The AZ offense is top 5. Top 10 at the very worst. They have playmakers all over the field. And have a decent offensive line to go with it.

    The defense is iffy for sure. But they haven't been horrible. After 3 games, they rank 11th in the league in both yards per game and points per game. They have elite talent on the defensive line with Jones and Watt. But LB core is very young and inexperienced. DB's have held up thus far despite being very thin at corner. Budda Baker is one of the best safeties in the league.

    I think they are a playoff team. Probably finish about 10-7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Love View Post
    The AZ offense is top 5. Top 10 at the very worst. They have playmakers all over the field. And have a decent offensive line to go with it.

    The defense is iffy for sure. But they haven't been horrible. After 3 games, they rank 11th in the league in both yards per game and points per game. They have elite talent on the defensive line with Jones and Watt. But LB core is very young and inexperienced. DB's have held up thus far despite being very thin at corner. Budda Baker is one of the best safeties in the league.

    I think they are a playoff team. Probably finish about 10-7.
    Yeah I guess I don’t think they live up to some of the division title predictions they’re getting. I have them pegged around 9-8 — far from bad but just not up to some of the hype.

    I think they are 3rd in the division at best. Just don’t match up well with the Rams or Niners.

    Im usually bullish on Seattle, but I’m not gonna fall for it this year
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avocado33 View Post
    Just don’t match up well with the Rams or Niners.
    Agree with them not matching up with the Rams. Which I already addressed.

    Disagree about the Niners. That's simply not true. AZ is 3-3 vs SF the past three seasons. If you go back even further and look at a larger sample size, the Cardinals are 9-3 vs SF since 2015. And even those 3 losses were very competitive games. That's some Cardinals domination right there.

    The threat of Murray scrambling and making plays out of the pocket seems to somewhat mitigate that Niners pass rush.
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    Murray has incredible talent but he runs too often and gets dinged and then plays at less than 100% (like last year) and hurts the team.
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    He might become the next russel wilson. With a good coach and good D, he could win superbowl.
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