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Over the past decade, teams from California, Florida or Texas have competed in more than half the championship series in the four major professional sports — including every NBA final.

That may be no surprise, considering the three states account for 27 percent of all franchises in those leagues. The sheer number of teams and their relative success make them fertile territory for legalizing sports gambling now that the U.S. Supreme Court has allowed every state to offer it.

“These states are the brass rings given the size of the populations and the potential opportunity,” said Sara Slane, a spokeswoman for the American Gaming Association.

So far, that ring remains elusive.

A 50-state review of sports gambling legislation by The Associated Press reveals that legalization efforts are nonexistent or very unlikely to happen anytime soon in the nation’s three most populous states, which together hold more than a quarter of the U.S. population.

The reasons vary. In California and Florida, powerful tribal interests that control most casino gambling are reluctant to reopen their agreements with the state and potentially share the gambling market with other players, including card rooms and race tracks.

In Texas, a combination of political clout from out-of-state casino interests and social conservatives who are morally opposed to gambling have effectively killed any prospects for legalized sports betting.

In all three states, any attempt to allow sports gambling would likely require a statewide vote to amend the constitution — a high hurdle for any issue, much less an expansion of gambling.

“The dynamic at work here is the larger the state, the larger the market, the larger the opportunity — the more complex the stakeholder environment and the more political stasis sets in,” said Chris Grove, managing director of gambling research firm Eilers and Krejcik.

Sports gambling is now legal in eight states, including Nevada, which had a monopoly before the high court ruling last spring.

Arkansas, New York and the District of Columbia also have legalized sports gambling in some form and are working on regulations before bets can be placed, while at least 22 other states are considering bills to legalize it. Advocates think the legislation has a realistic chance of passing in about half those states.

California, which alone accounts for one-eighth of the U.S. population and has 17 teams among the four major professional leagues, will not be joining the sports gambling states anytime soon.

Gambling there is largely controlled by casino-operating tribes that have compacts with the state. The tribes that are part of the California Nations Indian Gaming Association oppose an expansion of gambling even though it could bring more traffic to their casinos, said Steve Stallings, the group’s chairman.

The group is in the midst of a dispute with the state’s card rooms and doesn’t want to see more competition for the tribes by opening a debate over sports betting.

“We feel like protecting the industry in California is more important,” he said.

Just in case it does become legal, the United Auburn Indian Community struck a deal last year with a joint venture of casino company MGM and online gambling company GVC to run the sportsbook at its Thunder Valley Casino Resort, northeast of Sacramento.

Even so, the tribe doesn’t want that to happen, said Howard Dickstein, the lawyer who negotiated the deal on the tribe’s behalf.

“The tribe is not a strong advocate of legalizing sports betting under any circumstance,” he said. “The agreement with MGM is an insurance policy to become allied with a leader if and when it becomes legal in California.”

Dickstein said the tribe would welcome sports betting if it were clear that tribal casinos would control the market in California. But if betting is allowed at card rooms, racetracks or lottery retailers, it would not be so appealing for the casinos. Even if the tribes would receive a big piece of the action, it might mean renegotiating their agreements with the state that determine what is allowed at their casinos — and that could give the state an opportunity to insist on concessions.

A similar dynamic is in play in other states, including Arizona and Minnesota, where bills that would allow tribes to operate sports betting are in danger, partly because many of the tribes oppose them.

In Florida, a major casino-operating tribe also is a key factor.

Last year, voters agreed to make it tougher to expand gambling with a constitutional amendment that requires 60 percent voter approval for any future expansion of gambling in the state. The measure’s supporters included Disney, whose Orlando resort is a major economic force, and the Seminole Tribe, which owns seven of Florida’s eight tribal casinos.

State Senate President Bill Galvano, a Republican, said he believes sports betting could be legalized without voter approval, although he said he might ask for it, anyway. He said broader gambling legislation is being developed that would allow wagering, likely at racetracks, tribal casinos and perhaps in some form at sports venues.

“Sports betting has been taking place here, as it has other places, just not regulated and taxed,” he said.

Any attempt to push through legalization in Florida without voter approval would hit opposition and likely trigger a lawsuit, said John Sowinski, who led the campaign for last year’s constitutional amendment and leads the group No Casinos.

“Any sort of sober analysis of any type of gambling finds it doesn’t add anything to the economy,” he said. “It’s basically parasitic.”

In either case, Galvano said his bill is not likely to be a top priority during the 60-day legislative session that begins on Tuesday. Seminole Tribe spokesman Gary Bitner said in a text message that the tribe would not comment on the status of sports betting in Florida.

Texas, in addition to being home to eight teams in the four major professional sports, has hosted three Super Bowls, three NBA All-Star games and six NCAA men’s Final Four basketball tournaments since 2004.

But the state is far less welcoming when it comes to gambling because of a mix of morality and money: Social conservatives assail it as a regressive tax on the poor, and the official Texas Republican Party platform opposes expanded gambling in any form.

A bill from a Democratic lawmaker seeking to legalize sports gambling has little chance this year in the Republican-dominated Legislature.

The biggest winners if Texas maintains the status quo are casinos in neighboring Oklahoma and Louisiana, whose operators are major contributors to Texas politicians.

Billionaire Tilman Fertitta, owner of the Golden Nugget casinos, has donated more than $500,000 to Texas Gov. Greg Abbott. Two Oklahoma casino empires, the Chickasaw Nation and Choctaw Nation, have given more than $5 million combined to Texas officeholders and candidates since 2006.

Rob Kohler, a lobbyist who opposes gambling as a consultant for the Christian Life Commission, said the consistently winning argument in Texas has been that gambling preys upon the poor.

“Dollars don’t come from the sky,” he said. “They’re coming out of people’s pockets.”





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It's Florida & California's own fault for ever allowing that much power to the tribes in controlling the casinos.
 

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Any idea if it will pass ever in Wisconsin?

From everything I've read, its not gonna happen for several years.......here are a few comments.



In Wisconsin, the state constitution prohibits gambling on sports and allows lottery games and bingo games as the only forms of legal gambling.

According to the University of Nevada-Las Vegas Center for Gaming Research, the Wisconsin Lottery has generated more than $3 billion for property tax relief since 1988. In 2015, the lottery had $574 million in sales in a trend that has only gone up since 2007, when the lottery had $492 million in sales.

The odds of sports gambling coming to Wisconsin are not in gamblers’ favor, but their luck could change.


If the state constitution where to be changed, a bill would have to pass the Assembly and the Senate in two consecutive sessions, and then the legislators would have to bet big on the voters to approve a change in a statewide referendum.

That process could take years.


“It’s a long process if it would ever happen in Wisconsin,” Vos said. “That’s why I don’t think anything will change any time soon.”
 

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But of course every fucking degenerate gambler continues to gamble at Indian casinos. In Florida the semenhole injuns are blocking sports gambling. I dont trust Indian casinos. They basically self regulate themselves.
 

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How about Ohio?

Sports betting is coming to Ohio says the state's governor-elect, it's just not clear when.

With sports betting on Ohio's doorstep the Ohio legislature has taken the first steps in the form of a placeholder bill but has yet to move any further.

"We just need to make sure that it's done so we control as much as we can," DeWine said. "Problem gambling, people who have a real problem, we need to be part of helping them but at the same time this gambling is coming to Ohio, it's coming one way or the other."

No.time table has been set for Ohio yet.
 

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Sports betting is coming to Ohio says the state's governor-elect, it's just not clear when.

With sports betting on Ohio's doorstep the Ohio legislature has taken the first steps in the form of a placeholder bill but has yet to move any further.

"We just need to make sure that it's done so we control as much as we can," DeWine said. "Problem gambling, people who have a real problem, we need to be part of helping them but at the same time this gambling is coming to Ohio, it's coming one way or the other."

No.time table has been set for Ohio yet.

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Any word on south Carolina?
 

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Any word on south Carolina?

Doesn't look good.......probably as bad as Cali, Texas & Florida......they gate gambling in SC.

South Carolina Gambling Faces Major Obstacles;

To put it succinctly, there are few states more opposed to gambling than South Carolina.

That begins with the state constitution, which has codified gambling restrictions since 1895. It even prohibits a person “holding an office of honor, trust or profit” from betting or otherwise partaking in a game of chance. It further calls for the removal from office for anyone convicted of a gambling offense.

For Democrats like Malloy, its hard to get any bill passed, let alone one that Republicans have typically worked against. McMaster’s ability to veto any bill also looms large.

In the unlikely case it gets through the House, Senate and governor’s office, legal gambling would still need a voter-approved amendment to the constitution. Voters have clearly shown little appetite for full-scale gambling avenues such as wagers on sports or table games in the past or little support for the future.

If it’s any consolation, gambling views are starting to shift nationwide – and even in the traditionally conservative south.



(North Carolina) sports betting might be showing up late in the game, but the new bill’s sponsor expects it to reach the finish line.

State Sen. Jim Davis tells Legal Sports Report that S 154, introduced Wednesday, should be passed by the Senate within the month. He doesn’t anticipate it being a challenge to get the legal sports betting bill signed into law by June.

The bill specifies that NC sports betting is defined as wagers on the outcome of professional and collegiate sports. It does not include any provisions for mobile sports betting.

Looks like NC will get it way before SC.
 

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Doesn't look good.......probably as bad as Cali, Texas & Florida......they gate gambling in SC.

South Carolina Gambling Faces Major Obstacles;

To put it succinctly, there are few states more opposed to gambling than South Carolina.

That begins with the state constitution, which has codified gambling restrictions since 1895. It even prohibits a person “holding an office of honor, trust or profit” from betting or otherwise partaking in a game of chance. It further calls for the removal from office for anyone convicted of a gambling offense.

For Democrats like Malloy, its hard to get any bill passed, let alone one that Republicans have typically worked against. McMaster’s ability to veto any bill also looms large.

In the unlikely case it gets through the House, Senate and governor’s office, legal gambling would still need a voter-approved amendment to the constitution. Voters have clearly shown little appetite for full-scale gambling avenues such as wagers on sports or table games in the past or little support for the future.

If it’s any consolation, gambling views are starting to shift nationwide – and even in the traditionally conservative south.



(North Carolina) sports betting might be showing up late in the game, but the new bill’s sponsor expects it to reach the finish line.

State Sen. Jim Davis tells Legal Sports Report that S 154, introduced Wednesday, should be passed by the Senate within the month. He doesn’t anticipate it being a challenge to get the legal sports betting bill signed into law by June.

The bill specifies that NC sports betting is defined as wagers on the outcome of professional and collegiate sports. It does not include any provisions for mobile sports betting.

Looks like NC will get it way before SC.

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Proposed California Sports Betting Initiative Fails Before It Ever Starts;



Momentum for California sports betting will not come this year from the legislature or the ballot.

A proposed initiative to authorize CA sports betting expired without enough signatures to qualify for the 2020 ballot. The deadline for introduction of new sports betting bills also passed last month in the state legislature.

According to the petition’s filer, the legal sports betting effort never really got off the ground. Initiatives need about 623,000 signatures to make the ballot, based on 5 percent of the most recent gubernatorial vote total.

The sports betting initiative gathered a grand total of zero signatures.

“We never advanced to get a single signature,” said Russell Lowery, a consultant for a group calling itself Californians for Sports Betting, who filed the petition last June. “It started a conversation in California gaming on what is the right path forward, and those conversations will continue until they figure out the puzzle.”

Ballot initiative a necessary proposition;

Lowery said he originally planned to push for signatures on the initiative. The filing wasn’t just for show.

However, in discussions following the filing, he found his stakeholders who support sports betting were still holding out hope to get legislation done.

“The difference between June and today is everyone understands it’s not going to happen legislatively without some sort of pressure from an initiative,” Lowery said. “In the cardroom and sports betting industry, I think everyone now understands that if, it’s going to happen, it’s going to be through an initiative.”

While Lowery indicated that he does not have current plans to file another initiative, there is still plenty of time to get CA sports betting on the 2020 ballot.

In California, initiatives can be circulated for 180 days and need to be certified at least 131 days prior to the election, which would be around June 25, 2020.


What CA sports betting initiative contained;

The California sports betting initiative tried to find a compromise in the longstanding standoff between the state’s tribes and cardrooms.

It would have allowed tribes to operate roulette and craps at their casinos, with the tribes and cardrooms both getting sports betting.

The summary filed for the petition was as follows:

Allows federally recognized Native American tribes to operate roulette and craps games on tribal lands, subject to compacts negotiated by the Governor and ratified by the Legislature.

Allows licensed gambling establishments, such as card rooms, to conduct on-site sports wagering and to operate Nevada-style card games, and may result in authorization of sports wagering on tribal lands because of federal law.

Prohibits Governor from approving gaming on newly acquired off-reservation tribal lands and negotiating gaming compacts with non-federally recognized tribes.

The initiative also would have amended the state constitution — which prohibits gambling unless the type is specified — to add the line that the legislature “may authorize banking and percentage games including and not limited to sports wagering.”

That line would have allowed cardrooms to move to traditional banked card games, which might have driven the initiative as well.


No money, no ballot initiative;

The San Diego Union-Tribune wrote that the reason for the sports betting initiative’s failure was a lack of donors willing to pay for the manpower needed to gather voter signatures. That is mainly because outside gaming interests are focusing on other states where the climate for gambling expansion is more favorable.

Lowery, who previously told Legal Sports Report that getting the initiative on the ballot would take $2 to $3 million, indicated that the money contention was only partially true.

A lack of funding was the reason the initiative didn’t move forward, but financing to get on the ballot wasn’t the problem.

“Anyone can get to the ballot, that was never the challenge,” Lowery said. “You’ve got to get to the ballot with something that can win.”

This initiative didn’t have the support of the tribes, and it didn’t have a donor large enough to overcome the money the tribes would have spent to defeat it.


Lack of tribal support dooms CA sports betting;

In California, tribal interests that control most casino gambling are reluctant to reopen their agreements with the state and potentially share the gambling market with other players, including cardrooms and racetracks.

To them, the revenue from sports betting isn’t worth putting their $8 billion industry at risk. They would take a monopoly on sports betting, but don’t want it at card rooms, race tracks and lottery retailers.

The Washington Examiner recently noted that the California Nations Indian Gaming Association is in ta dispute with cardrooms and doesn’t want to see more competition by opening a debate over California sports betting.

“We feel like protecting the industry in California is more important,” Steve Stallings, the group’s chairman, told the newspaper.


Gambling revenue not motivating factor;

With the tribes wielding influence, legislative efforts to authorize California sports betting or put a constitutional amendment in front of voters from Assemblyman Adam Gray have gone nowhere.

California is one of only 19 states in the country not to have a bill related to sports betting either under consideration or on the books for 2019.

Another issue is that California isn’t getting as much money from Indian gaming these days.

The Union-Tribune noted that because revenue-sharing agreements between the tribes and state were thrown out by a federal court, the $330 million that tribal gaming contributed to the California general fund in 2016 is down now to $3.6 million.

Following a record tax windfall and with a rapidly filling “rainy day” budget reserve, the paper wrote that gambling revenue isn’t currently a priority.




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