How much do you pay per kwh, kilowatt hour ?

Doug · Mar 5, 2019

The electric bill is one difficult thing to figure out. It gets divided Into Basic divisions, supply ( also called generation ), and delivery, that part costs more than generation and in my case is 8 different subcharges, shit like Distr Cust Srvc chrg which amounts to perhaps 8 percent of the total bill, they could toss in a charge for muffler bearings in this section.

All I can do is say OK, they charged me $109.27 for the 479 kwh I used between 1/11 and 2/11, so 22.8 cents per kwh, in my case
US average is 12 cents per kwh and 908 used per month, CT has 3rd highest rates in nation.

The thing is there is no other option !

niltes · Mar 5, 2019

I have what is called TOU (time of usage).
I pay .23 for peak, .17 off peak, and .13 overnight.
rates are in the summertime .35. .19, and .14 respectively.
I think I also get a small monthly credit for being on the TOU
billing program. those are so cal rates. florida rates are
lower, but their TOU is not nearly as good with less
incentives.

pete7713 · Mar 5, 2019

baltimore gas and electric $53.12 for 369 kw

texansfan · Mar 5, 2019

My February bill was 851 kw at 0.049170/kw for $41.84

Doug · Mar 5, 2019

Hawaii is highest, Idaho lowest, about a factor of four between those two.

Talk about a monopoly, you can't reasonably not have it, and must buy it from Eversource or whatever they call it where you live.

Look at those poor suckers in Puerto Rico, takes a year to get it back after a hurricane !

Even if they could quadruple the rates overnight.
. we'd still pay it ! Fortunately there are procedures and people overseeing rate increases !

Doug · Mar 5, 2019

texansfan said:
My February bill was 851 kw at 0.049170/kw for $41.84

Wow , I was ready to claim Bullshit on that, until I saw who posted it, a guy I respect , a great deal, indeed.

If that covers both ends,supply and delivery, that is awesome

Doug · Mar 5, 2019

Tex, I know you're a big boy and a big city cop, but I suspect that the rate you got is a scam for a temporary term, then they suddenly increase the bill by a factor of 10, 20 X or more, but you'd know all this !

Doug · Mar 5, 2019

pete7713 said:
baltimore gas and electric $53.12 for 369 kw

A rate of 14.4, pretty inline with national average.

texansfan · Mar 5, 2019

Doug said:
Wow , I was ready to claim Bullshit on that, until I saw who posted it, a guy I respect , a great deal, indeed.

If that covers both ends,supply and delivery, that is awesome

No, that's just for the cost, throw in another $40 for delivery. Centerpoint is the big guy down here, but I always shop around. Of course since Centerpoint owns the lines, they get a cut of the money.

texansfan · Mar 5, 2019

Doug said:
Tex, I know you're a big boy and a big city cop, but I suspect that the rate you got is a scam for a temporary term, then they suddenly increase the bill by a factor of 10, 20 X or more, but you'd know all this !

No, I shop every two years and I lock in that rate for the 24-month period. I typically change providers every two years. I always shop around for electricity, and car and homeowners insurance. I'm never afraid to change companies.

Doug · Mar 5, 2019

texansfan said:
No, that's just for the cost, throw in another $40 for delivery. Centerpoint is the big guy down here, but I always shop around. Of course since Centerpoint owns the lines, they get a cut of the money.

Well then your figure is misleading as it does not include everything, my figure of 23 cents or whatever it was, included all charges, taxes, and relayet crapola, total bill divided by kwh used, so it's a valid comparison to where others stand !

It would be interesting to see what it costs in other countries, and how reliable the service is, Canada always being the most similar country to US

texansfan · Mar 5, 2019

Doug said:
Well then your figure is misleading as it does not include everything, my figure of 23 cents or whatever it was, included all charges, taxes, and relayet crapola, total bill divided by kwh used, so it's a valid comparison to where others stand !

It would be interesting to see what it costs in other countries, and how reliable the service is, Canada always being the most similar country to US

I was quoting what I payed for what you stated in your thread title. This is what I pay.

Plan Name	Super Saver - 24
Term	24 Months
Average Price	9.4¢ per kWh (based on 2,000 kWh per month)
Fixed Energy Charge	4.917¢ per kWh
Base Charge	$0
Early Termination Fee	$375

Doug · Mar 5, 2019

I honestly expected to be totally roasted here by trolls for using so few kwh !

Know your enemy to high utility bills and how much you do about it, get efficient light bulbs, yada yada, well all done that crap by now, you won't take shit advice ( fine for an owner, nothing to a tenant).

I think I screwed that up , tough to post on such a tiny screen with failing eyesight.

Be aware of what every appliance uses. Many costs are hidden like that perhaps 30 gallons cauldron of hotish water, I will continue tommorow, running out of battery.

NorthernStar · Mar 6, 2019

Doug said:
The electric bill is one difficult thing to figure out. It gets divided Into Basic divisions, supply ( also called generation ), and delivery, that part costs more than generation and in my case is 8 different subcharges, shit like Distr Cust Srvc chrg which amounts to perhaps 8 percent of the total bill, they could toss in a charge for muffler bearings in this section.

All I can do is say OK, they charged me $109.27 for the 479 kwh I used between 1/11 and 2/11, so 22.8 cents per kwh, in my case
US average is 12 cents per kwh and 908 used per month, CT has 3rd highest rates in nation.

The thing is there is no other option !

Perfect reason to put up solar and cut your expenses

Knightrofins · Mar 6, 2019

I just looked my office bill.

I am charged $0.027250 per KWH for fuel and $0.063550 per KWH for non fuel

I used 872 KWH last month for $114.29

nysports · Mar 6, 2019

Doug

Who is your local utility? UI, Eversource?

Hamilbet · Mar 6, 2019

Have fun with this...

Distribution Charge First 467 kWh X $0.0509636 per kWh 23.80
Distribution Charge Last 104 kWh X $0.0509615 per kWh 5.30
Market Transition Tax 571 kWh X $0.0002977 per kWh 0.17
Transition Bond Charge 571 kWh X $0.0018039 per kWh 1.03
Non-Utility Generation Charge 571 kWh X $0.0097723 per kWh 5.58
Societal Benefits Charge 571 kWh X $0.0064974 per kWh 3.71
RGGI Energy Efficiency 571 kWh X $0.0004203 per kWh 0.24
EDIT Credit 5 Yr - kWh 571 kWh X $0.0048862- per kWh 2.79−
Total Electric Delivery Charges 41.52

Transmission Service Charge 571 kWh X $0.0204729 per kWh 11.69
Reliability Must Run Transmission Surcharge 571 kWh X $0.0037303 per kWh 2.13
Basic Generation Service First 467 kWh X $0.0803854 per kWh 37.54
Basic Generation Service Last 104 kWh X $0.0803846 per kWh 8.36
Total Electric Supply Charges 59.72

Total Electric Delivery Charges 41.52
Total Electric Supply Charges 59.72
Total Electric Charges for 571 kWh - Residential Service 101.24

Doug · Mar 7, 2019

nysports said:
Doug

Who is your local utility? UI, Eversource?

Eversource, they cover most of the state, UI is pretty much limited to the New Haven area, I'm nearer to Old Saybrook, Eastern Middlesex county.

Doug · Mar 7, 2019

Hamilbet said:
Have fun with this...

Distribution Charge First 467 kWh X $0.0509636 per kWh 23.80
Distribution Charge Last 104 kWh X $0.0509615 per kWh 5.30
Market Transition Tax 571 kWh X $0.0002977 per kWh 0.17
Transition Bond Charge 571 kWh X $0.0018039 per kWh 1.03
Non-Utility Generation Charge 571 kWh X $0.0097723 per kWh 5.58
Societal Benefits Charge 571 kWh X $0.0064974 per kWh 3.71
RGGI Energy Efficiency 571 kWh X $0.0004203 per kWh 0.24
EDIT Credit 5 Yr - kWh 571 kWh X $0.0048862- per kWh 2.79−
Total Electric Delivery Charges 41.52

Transmission Service Charge 571 kWh X $0.0204729 per kWh 11.69
Reliability Must Run Transmission Surcharge 571 kWh X $0.0037303 per kWh 2.13
Basic Generation Service First 467 kWh X $0.0803854 per kWh 37.54
Basic Generation Service Last 104 kWh X $0.0803846 per kWh 8.36
Total Electric Supply Charges 59.72

Total Electric Delivery Charges 41.52
Total Electric Supply Charges 59.72
Total Electric Charges for 571 kWh - Residential Service 101.24

It certainly is difficult to comprehend these bills.

Doug · Mar 7, 2019

I guess I won this one, nobody even close to the
.23 ,I have to pay, I didn't even see a
.15 in there !
Interesting to see what you guys consume monthly, I thought I might be mighty low, but fixed costs like a water heater exist
I also run a ton of refrigation, way too much, actually !

A normal household size fridge, a good size chest freezer and a smaller fridge above the size you might find in motel room or a dorm room, kind of a half size thing that would be perfect to fit under a kitchen counter.My X-wife got it for me free brand new in the box, so I accepted it, she's great at getting stuff like that

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