He SHOULD be an over, I would be shocked if the Giants took him at #6, or if someone traded up.... and I do not think Denver will be dumb enough to take him at #10.
He has not played enough, and has not played in a sophisticated passing offense (like Lock has, for example). Huge risk though he has a high ceiling, too.
To me, mid late round 1 or early round 2, but as another poster noted, someone might panic and go for the upside and ignore the risk.
He has not played enough, and has not played in a sophisticated passing offense (like Lock has, for example). Huge risk though he has a high ceiling, too.
To me, mid late round 1 or early round 2, but as another poster noted, someone might panic and go for the upside and ignore the risk.
He either goes to the:
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So imo only a 25% chance he goes to the Giants with the 6th pick... as I dont think they will *panic* at this point to get a QB this early. Giants are definitely rebuilding, but I look for them to grab JOSH ALLEN with the 6th pick and hope Haskins or Daniel Jones with the 17th pick in the 1st round. OR the Bengals/Redskins grab him if he is still available... Which puts it 3 teams to grab him for the OVER 10, and only 1 for the UNDER 10
(Just my opinion on how I view this years draft as I get ready for the NFL season)
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So imo only a 25% chance he goes to the Giants with the 6th pick... as I dont think they will *panic* at this point to get a QB this early. Giants are definitely rebuilding, but I look for them to grab JOSH ALLEN with the 6th pick and hope Haskins or Daniel Jones with the 17th pick in the 1st round. OR the Bengals/Redskins grab him if he is still available... Which puts it 3 teams to grab him for the OVER 10, and only 1 for the UNDER 10
(Just my opinion on how I view this years draft as I get ready for the NFL season)
Greatest One doing some great posts.
Sometimes what we are told is a lie. So let us not accept the "rags to riches" story of Dan Snyder.
Maybe he is a Canaanite (check) and his family had a long history of incredible wealth. We know who the slave ship owners were and that they pass it off as a lie and say it was someone else. Hell, Columbus was a Jew. Yet another lie (or something they don't tell us in history) fed to Americans.
I was just reading about a billionaire from Latin America who had roots in several different countries and I watched a public "documentary" they did on him.... saying he rose up from nothing (lol) yet he was educated in three different Latin American countries and frequently traveled between all three countries as a youth. Yet perhaps another billionaire rooted in the slave trade and a massive landowner for generations? And yet another fake story?
Yet most poor people in Latin America have never been on a plane. Thus yet another fake rags to riches story.
Perhaps we should examine some of the other NFL owners. Ravens' owner owned a bank at the age of 21 or some shit like that ..... and I remember Madden making a deceptively snide comment on MNF when he said, "How does a young man own a bank at the age of 21?"
if there is year you shouldnt move up to take a qb i would say its this year.
if there is a team stupid enough to do it the redskins who need a qb. i dont know why anyone would give up anything to reach for Haskins when a legit trade could be made for Rosen who is a better prospect than anyone in the draft. i dont even think rosen is great but would rather have him over anyone in the draft this year.
if there is a team stupid enough to do it the redskins who need a qb. i dont know why anyone would give up anything to reach for Haskins when a legit trade could be made for Rosen who is a better prospect than anyone in the draft. i dont even think rosen is great but would rather have him over anyone in the draft this year.
Totally agree.
If someone gives AZ their #1 and some other picks (#2, #3's) to take Murray, the Cardinals are much better off than taking Murray, though they might get some picks for Rosen.
Rosen was not ready last year but is a prototype NFL QB. Maybe a Goff repeat, similar in many ways...
Haskins is vastly overrated, did not play in a sophisticated passing offense, the NFL will be 100 times more complex and of course faster.
Jones is overrated, played in a good situation with good coaching, is an NFL backup and occasional starter.
Murray, to me, is overrated, but might be top notch, is a risk, played in the Big 12, no defense, and he had incredible weapons around him to take pressure off...
Lock played 4 yrs in a passing offense against SEC defenses, his support was not that good, he has the physical tools, I like him the best.
I, my self, would not take any of these guys early, maybe Lock at # 10, but no way take Haskins or Jones before the 20's or early second round. Anybody who trades up and gives away their #1 and multiple picks, to me, is foolish.
We shall see.
Agree. I take over, and if the Skins want him, stay put and snag him up at 15, lose him, no biggie...
That was easy, 15th as stated.
