Georgia district attorneys refuse to enforce new abortion law

TheComputerGroup · May 20, 2019

A number of district attorneys in counties around Atlanta said they will not prosecute women for getting an abortion under Georgia’s recently passed restrictive “heartbeat” abortion law, according to a report on Monday.

The Georgia bill, signed into law by Gov. Brian Kemp on May 7, would prohibit abortions after doctors detect a fetal heartbeat, usually around six weeks into a pregnancy.

Critics argue that is often before many women become aware they are pregnant.

”As District Attorney with charging discretion, I will not prosecute individuals pursuant to [the law] given its ambiguity and constitutional concerns,” DeKalb County District Attorney Sherry Boston said in a statement, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

“As a woman and mother, I am concerned about the passage and attempted passage of laws such as this one in Georgia, Alabama, and other states,” it continued.

Georgia’s law is scheduled to take effect on Jan. 1, but it is expected to be challenged in the Supreme Court because it is at odds with the 1973 landmark decision in Roe v. Wade that protects a woman’s right to have an abortion.

The newspaper reported that technical language in the bill could allow district attorneys to seek a murder charge against a person violating the heartbeat bill.

The bill’s main sponsor, Rep. Ed Setzler, said that wasn’t the bill’s intention, but women, doctors, nurses and pharmacists can face prosecution under the state’s criminal abortion statute.

It carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison.

”As a matter of law (as opposed to politics) this office will not be prosecuting any women under the new law as long as I’m district attorney,” Gwinnett County District Attorney Danny Porter said in a statement.

A spokesman for Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard said the office has “no intention of every prosecuting a woman under this new law.”

In Cobb County, acting District Attorney John Melvin said a woman would “absolutely not” be prosecuted.

https://nypost.com/2019/05/20/georgia-district-attorneys-refuse-to-enforce-new-abortion-law/amp/

TheComputerGroup · May 20, 2019

They shouldn't prosecute anyone in Georgia for murder......murder is murder, whether its an adult or an unborn child.

This will get ugly......

Willie99 · May 20, 2019

Only one demographic doesn't understand what the Rule of Law stands for. I'm not condoning or condemning the law, but DA's have to know what their jobs are

Enfuego · May 20, 2019

Willie99 said:
Only one demographic doesn't understand what the Rule of Law stands for. I'm not condoning or condemning the law, but DA's have to know what their jobs are

I agree with Willie here.

As state employees, they don’t get to pick and choose what laws they get to prosecute.

Pulledclear · May 20, 2019

Don't EVER try to interfere with a women's right to hack a baby out of her womb. I don't even know why they pay for them. Why not just wait for the birth, smash it up with a hammer, throw it in the trash and pocket the money. Not only will you be able to buy a new purse with the savings it can also be very emotionally rewarding .

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tatehill2000 · May 20, 2019

Enfuego said:
I agree with Willie here.

As state employees, they don’t get to pick and choose what laws they get to prosecute.

Entitled liberals...
Sigh...
Sad

Mr_Mark · May 20, 2019

when a clerk refused to process gay marriage docs didn't she go to jail?

Michelangelo · May 20, 2019

Check out what our newly elected Suffolk County (Boston) District Attorney is doing in Boston. Not prosecuting "low level" crimes, her words not mine. Low level crimes like breaking and entering. Like shoplifting. There are 15 categories she's not gonna prosecute. How would you like to live in Boston knowing that any thug can break into your house or car with impugnity. How would you like to be a shop owner. Why pay for anything when you can just lift it without recrimination?

https://www.wbur.org/news/2019/03/26/suffolk-district-attorney-rollins-policy-memo

Any law breaking DA should be thrown in jail. Guess what party they all come from?

Which one of you liberals wants to make a case for this behaviour?

SgtLanquel · May 20, 2019

Enfuego said:
I agree with Willie here.

As state employees, they don’t get to pick and choose what laws they get to prosecute.

Nonsense

State and county level prosecutors have always exercised discretion as to how they will prioritize criminal litigation.

Most recently we have - over the past 15 to 20 years - seen prosecutors across the USA publicly state their choosing to not proceed with charging on misdemeanor marijuana-related crimes.

The most pertinent factor seems to be if there is a legitimate aggrieved party asking the state to prosecute someone for the listed 'crime'.

With marijuana possession, there is of course no one being damaged who might then look to the state for redress. Thus it is a very logical set of laws to make an extremely low prosecutoral priority.

For the short time that this law stands in Georgia, there will of course be no one who can claim being legitimately *damaged* by a woman choosing to voluntarily terminate her own pregnancy so it is extremely logical for prosecutors to preemptively declare they will expend few or even zero resources attempting to prosecute, convict and imprison a woman simply for her choosing to end her own pregnancy, especially during the first 90 days and FFS during the first 10 days (as the law proscribes).

Enfuego · May 20, 2019

Sgt Lanquel said:
Nonsense

State and county level prosecutors have always exercised discretion as to how they will prioritize criminal litigation.

Most recently we have - over the past 15 to 20 years - seen prosecutors across the USA publicly state their choosing to not proceed with charging on misdemeanor marijuana-related crimes.

The most pertinent factor seems to be if there is a legitimate aggrieved party asking the state to prosecute someone for the listed 'crime'.

With marijuana possession, there is of course no one being damaged who might then look to the state for redress. Thus it is a very logical set of laws to make an extremely low prosecutoral priority.

For the short time that this law stands in Georgia, there will of course be no one who can claim being legitimately *damaged* by a woman choosing to voluntarily terminate her own pregnancy so it is extremely logical for prosecutors to preemptively declare they will expend few or even zero resources attempting to prosecute, convict and imprison a woman simply for her choosing to end her own pregnancy, especially during the first 90 days and FFS during the first 10 days (as the law proscribes).

I wouldn't really call my opinion "nonsense." I think my opinion on this topic is probably pretty mainstream. I think the failure to prosecute lawbreakers who commit crime in places like San Francisco and Seattle is partly to blame for why those cities currently look the way they do.

I watched a documentary about the demise of Seattle recently and I want to say the documentary showed out of every 100 arrests for crimes like public intoxication, vandalism etc. by the homeless population, an average of 10 out of 100 of the crimes are prosecuted which, as you can imagine, agitates the police and actually encourages them not to arrest lawbreakers.

I'd like to think if a person is arrested for violating the law and a strong case can be made to prosecute them, the case always moves forward despite the kind of crime, race or economic background of the offender.

Call me crazy I guess?

Coldweather · May 20, 2019

Women should not be killing babies and children and if they do, the State should have them sit down

on the "Chair" caz they needs a long time out! F them!!!! :hammerit<strike></strike>

jaws2357 · May 20, 2019

If you can't or won't do your job quit or be fired. Simple resolve

SgtLanquel · May 20, 2019

Michelangelo said:
Check out what our newly elected Suffolk County (Boston) District Attorney is doing in Boston. Not prosecuting "low level" crimes, her words not mine. Low level crimes like breaking and entering. Like shoplifting. There are 15 categories she's not gonna prosecute. How would you like to live in Boston knowing that any thug can break into your house or car with impugnity. How would you like to be a shop owner. Why pay for anything when you can just lift it without recrimination?

https://www.wbur.org/news/2019/03/26/suffolk-district-attorney-rollins-policy-memo

Any law breaking DA should be thrown in jail. Guess what party they all come from?

Which one of you liberals wants to make a case for this behaviour?

My favorite part of the above story is "newly elected" which tells me that she was the preefered choice of Suffolk County voters. And that tells me her attitudes are shared by those voters.

And if you feel that in fact, one can now "shoplift with impunity" in Suffolk County then by all means go snatch some stuff and then come back here and share the overall outcome of your adventure.

If you do it AND videotape the incident, post the clip here at Rx and I will donate $100 to any non-profit you choose

tatehill2000 · May 20, 2019

you know what would be an interesting Punishment..

Every woman gets 1 abortion.. only 1... ONCE u use that 1... your Done. Lol... you get an unwanted preganacy again..

You get fixed.. BOOM... no more.. if you cant be responsible for your own body... we will happily take that choice away from You..

Lol... it makes too much sense to work huh?

SgtLanquel · May 20, 2019

Enfuego said:
I wouldn't really call my opinion "nonsense." I think my opinion on this topic is probably pretty mainstream. I think the failure to prosecute lawbreakers who commit crime in places like San Francisco and Seattle is partly to blame for why those cities currently look the way they do.

I watched a documentary about the demise of Seattle recently and I want to say the documentary showed out of every 100 arrests for crimes like public intoxication, vandalism etc. by the homeless population, an average of 10 out of 100 of the crimes are prosecuted which, as you can imagine, agitates the police and actually encourages them not to arrest lawbreakers.

I'd like to think if a person is arrested for violating the law and a strong case can be made to prosecute them, the case always moves forward despite the kind of crime, race or economic background of the offender.

Call me crazy I guess?

I apologize and retract my use of *nonsense* with regard to your shared POV

I would however add that a useful indicator of how one can best evaluate which laws they truly believe should be prioritized is to apply the Sister/Mother/Wife test.

That is, if you became aware that either your S, W or M were breaking said law, would you personally call police and demand they be charged and prosecuted?

For true crimes against persons many of us might indeed respond Yes

For crimes against property, less of us would respond Yes though we might promote alternative redress short of criminal prosecution and a lifetime criminal record.

For the aforementioned *crimes* I cited in my previous post - marijuana possession and/or choosing to terminate an unwanted pregnancy - very very few of us would respond Yes.

Certainly not one of us would demand police arrest, prosecute and imprison our sister, mother or wife were we to learn they had ended a pregnancy within *any* length of time and again FFS most of us should be frankly horrified at pursuing any such response from the state were the pregnancy terminated within first 1-90 days

Willie99 · May 20, 2019

Some people simply think laws are there for them to decide when to enforce them or not. It's a touchy feely sort of thing, kinda floats like dust in the wind.

Then they turn around and see criminal activity where none exists.

It's hard for many of us to understand this stuff. It's kinda like trying to understand women, there's really no way to figure out what they're thinking until it's too late.

I think we would need skill sets we just don't possess. Stuff like reading between the lines, reading palms and hallucinating. Throw in a little talking to the dead and badafuckingbing, you might be almost there

RenoChazz · May 20, 2019

But if there are gun bans and the sherifs refuse to take the guns they are heros, or should they lose their job?

TheComputerGroup · May 20, 2019

Michelangelo said:
Check out what our newly elected Suffolk County (Boston) District Attorney is doing in Boston. Not prosecuting "low level" crimes, her words not mine. Low level crimes like breaking and entering. Like shoplifting. There are 15 categories she's not gonna prosecute. How would you like to live in Boston knowing that any thug can break into your house or car with impugnity. How would you like to be a shop owner. Why pay for anything when you can just lift it without recrimination?

https://www.wbur.org/news/2019/03/26/suffolk-district-attorney-rollins-policy-memo

Any law breaking DA should be thrown in jail. Guess what party they all come from?

Which one of you liberals wants to make a case for this behaviour?

I can see kids going into small mom & pop stores & shoplifting knowing they won't get into much trouble......& the owners getting fed up & pulling a gun.......this could get out of hand.

SgtLanquel · May 21, 2019

Willie99 said:
Some people simply think laws are there for them to decide when to enforce them or not. It's a touchy feely sort of thing, kinda floats like dust in the wind.

Then they turn around and see criminal activity where none exists.

It's hard for many of us to understand this stuff. It's kinda like trying to understand women, there's really no way to figure out what they're thinking until it's too late.

I think we would need skill sets we just don't possess. Stuff like reading between the lines, reading palms and hallucinating. Throw in a little talking to the dead and badafuckingbing, you might be almost there

If your daughter chose to live in Georgia and terminate a pregnancy would you demand GA authorities arrest her, prosecute her and imprison her?

Willie99 · May 21, 2019

Sgt Lanquel said:
If your daughter chose to live in Georgia and terminate a pregnancy would you demand GA authorities arrest her, prosecute her and imprison her?

My daughter is raised to obey the law, is there really a better alternative?

People breaking laws is how people and families get hurt. Then they blame law enforcement officers, then they riot. All one needs to do is make better choices and they won't be breaking the law.

Do I need to elaborate any more?

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