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    Womenís soccer players get a much higher share of revenue than the men do. If we really want to make it equal the men are going to make nearly twice as much money.
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    If they play naked and all have boob jobs... I'll consider the equal pay argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5teamparlay View Post
    Women’s soccer players get a much higher share of revenue than the men do. If we really want to make it equal the men are going to make nearly twice as much money.
    Going a few years back, one year the World Cup revenue was $6 billion for men (the Russia year), $ 143 million for women. It has been pretty much the same over the years, proportionally.

    Players get a pool of something like 9% for women, a bit less for men.

    You cannot just go by crowd size for the final game, there is massive TV advertising $$$ involved, and sponsorships, merchandise, etc, for a significant period of time each WC.

    The women are getting what they deserve.

    Many know this but are afraid to say it lest they be attacked as chauvinist-pig misogynist neanderthal motherf0ckers.

    I HATE the way the MSM is spreading lies about this, making it political, of course.

    Sports socialism.

    Title IX has hurt NCAA sports favoring women, ruining a lot of good men's sports, do not get me started.
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    I agree with the above. The WNBA women get far less but they make a ton less. It's simple economics. The top Women's tennis players make more because their is a demand for them. Men in porno make less, they don't complain
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    Second the above.
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    Yes ultimately sports salaries are the result of fans willing to pay to see the event.

    I could get front row tickets for a WNBA for practically nothing, but not so for Knicks or whatever NBA team is the hot ticket these days
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    Quote Originally Posted by RunMaker View Post
    If they play naked and all have boob jobs... I'll consider the equal pay argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RunMaker View Post
    If they play naked and all have boob jobs... I'll consider the equal pay argument.
    since the thread said should the men get more....i'll have 2 assume you want the men 2 do this...you are 1 strange dude
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbone View Post
    Going a few years back, one year the World Cup revenue was $6 billion for men (the Russia year), $ 143 million for women. It has been pretty much the same over the years, proportionally.

    Players get a pool of something like 9% for women, a bit less for men.

    You cannot just go by crowd size for the final game, there is massive TV advertising $$$ involved, and sponsorships, merchandise, etc, for a significant period of time each WC.

    The women are getting what they deserve.

    Many know this but are afraid to say it lest they be attacked as chauvinist-pig misogynist neanderthal motherf0ckers.

    I HATE the way the MSM is spreading lies about this, making it political, of course.

    Sports socialism.

    Title IX has hurt NCAA sports favoring women, ruining a lot of good men's sports, do not get me started.
    Yes precisely, the tv deals/advertising is what creates the majority of the revenue
    20 percent more Americans tuned in to the Women’s final than the Men’s final last year. Boom
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    Quote Originally Posted by LargeMarge View Post
    Yes precisely, the tv deals/advertising is what creates the majority of the revenue
    20 percent more Americans tuned in to the Womenís final than the Menís final last year. Boom
    ha ha.... boom!????

    funny shit you're comparing how many americans watched USA vs Netherlands final vs the ahemm, Croatia/France final. Why not compare it to Pakistan/Iran cricket or PBA bowling. How about compare USA womens final 2019 vs 2015? oh, right, that makes too much sense for vitty

    how about 43% less Americans watched this final than the 2015 women's WC final USA vs Japan

    uh, yeah, BOOM!

    definitely give them a pay raise when there's 50% less interest this year than 4 years ago. BOOM!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LargeMarge View Post
    Yes precisely, the tv deals/advertising is what creates the majority of the revenue
    20 percent more Americans tuned in to the Women’s final than the Men’s final last year. Boom
    dumb dum dumb dum....maybe because the usa was in the womens final...while the mens final was...france and croatia
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    Quote Originally Posted by busterhyman View Post
    dumb dum dumb dum....maybe because the usa was in the womens final...while the mens final was...france and croatia
    Well no shit. The men are terrible and get embarrassed every World Cup. Still an apples to apples comparison in back to back years. The biggest revenue source is tv, just like every major sport. And the women outdraw the men in that regard
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    And in a comparison to the same day, the men drew FAR less even though they were playing a rival in Mexico in primetime, and the women had the crappy early day time time slot. Boom
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    Quote Originally Posted by LargeMarge View Post
    Well no shit. The men are terrible and get embarrassed every World Cup. Still an apples to apples comparison in back to back years. The biggest revenue source is tv, just like every major sport. And the women outdraw the men in that regard
    dumb and dumber...apples 2 apples comparison????...don't think so...but your a lib so....your brain doesn't work right...women outdraw the men in that regard....dumbest...world ratings not close and again...higher for american ratings for women because...usa in womens final and...no usa in mens final
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    More viewers tuned in to watch the Men’s World Cup final than the entire Women’s World Cup tournament combined.
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    You don't just go by one game, the fans in the stands, or the tv revenue for one game.

    SURE the women's FINAL will be viewed with curiosity, stands will be full.

    But total revenue is ticket sales + TV commerical revenue + merchandise + misc sponsorships.

    $6,000,000,000 in men's revenue

    compared to

    $ 140,000,000 in women's revenue

    players get a % of the pool


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    After weeks of hyping the World Cup tournament the final match between the US and The Netherlands had a viewership that was down 43.8 percent from the last World Cup final in 2015.
    The AP reported:

    The United States’ 2-0 victory over the Netherlands in Sunday’s FIFA Women’s World Cup final averaged nearly 15.6 million U.S. viewers on English- and Spanish-language television.
    It was the most-viewed match this season, but a decrease from the 2015 final.
    The match averaged 14.27 million viewers on Fox, according to the network and Nielsen, and peaked at 19.6 million. It was a 22 percent increase over last year’s FIFA World Cup men’s final between France and Croatia, which averaged 11.44 million.
    The audience was down 43.8 percent from the 2015 final between the U.S. and Japan, which averaged 25.4 million viewers.




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    Quote Originally Posted by LargeMarge View Post
    And in a comparison to the same day, the men drew FAR less even though they were playing a rival in Mexico in primetime, and the women had the crappy early day time time slot. Boom
    That men's game was not the World Cup (your usual apples to oranges).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbone View Post
    You don't just go by one game, the fans in the stands, or the tv revenue for one game.

    SURE the women's FINAL will be viewed with curiosity, stands will be full.

    But total revenue is ticket sales + TV commerical revenue + merchandise + misc sponsorships.
    $6,000,000,000 in men's revenue

    compared to

    $ 140,000,000 in women's revenue

    players get a % of the pool


    This is incorrect. Players are paid when they win games. Revenue has nothing to do with any of it
    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-revenue-get-/
    Do some reading boy
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    Marge I think you need to read it again. The article said Players are paid on games played and games won. Don't just pick out the facts you want. There is more there in the article than people see or want to see. Also it is a collective bargaining agreement which runs through 2021. There is more but I don't think it will get through to anyone who has already made up their mind on this issue.
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    Correct, I thought that most people would understand that they are being paid for a game in which they lose as well. Professional athletes don’t play for free lol. Perhaps I should have made that clear for the dummies as well. But revenue has nothing to do with how they are paid in their current contracts, as stated by the often-incorrect Serbone
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    Most people know revenue is important in the collective bargaining agreement. The women's revenue is getting better so their next deal should be better.
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    I like "it has nothing to do with revenue", obviously not a statement of someone who went to a university business school.
    Overall, men's soccer outdraws women's significantly, it isn't even close, and sponsors pay big bucks for commercials on TV, for merchandise, everything. In the World Cup, the revenue is calculated for the whole tournament, not just a few final games, it is a global "happening" and men's soccer dominates.
    Overall, in all sports in the USA tickets for women's events are cheap and available and there are almost always plenty of empty seats year round.
    SURE the USA women have great soccer, they are on a roll, and in this silly MeToo era they are blowing this issue up with cherry picked numbers, even false equivaliencies. SURE they had a great following when they advanced through the World Cup. But in the big picture, it is chicken feed.
    USA men can get rich playing football, baseball, basketball, hockey, so why would they bother with soccer?
    With USA women, soccer is a more logical choice.
    Then they made asses of themselves cussing throughout the ceremony in NY. Sickening display, parents had to turn off the TV, their daughters confused that their heroes were that disgusting.
    Depsite the propaganda, $6 billion compared to $143 million, it is that simple.
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    FIFA controls the vast majority of the revenues, nobody in our government does.

    FIFA's prize pool for the men is like 2 billion dollars

    FIFA's prize pool for the women is like 300 million dollars

    All 32 on the men's teams that qualify for the WC receive at least 7,000,000

    The women's WC champion only receives 3,000,000



    Don't revenues mean anything anymore? Men's sports attract much larger TV revenues and they attract much larger crowds, nobody in DC can do anything to change that.

    People who make more money can get bigger mortgages and buy bigger homes, that's life.
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