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Clover, what ya think? freshman qb starting ?

AU d keep Org in check whole game?

I see AU running a lot
 

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Clover, what ya think? freshman qb starting ?

AU d keep Org in check whole game?

I see AU running a lot

IF I had to place a bet 'today', I would take the Under 59.

Just not confident one way or the other on a side play.

Bus ride for Auburn...across country for Oregon?????
 

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IF I had to place a bet 'today', I would take the Under 59.

Just not confident one way or the other on a side play.

Bus ride for Auburn...across country for Oregon?????

Correction before I get corrected. I was thinking this game was being played in Atlanta which is a short
drive from the Auburn campus. Disregard the distance reference. I will note that this is almost a must
win for Malzahn. He needs this one to keep the Tiger nation in check.
 

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Correction before I get corrected. I was thinking this game was being played in Atlanta which is a short
drive from the Auburn campus. Disregard the distance reference. I will note that this is almost a must
win for Malzahn. He needs this one to keep the Tiger nation in check.

This will not be Purdue for sure. The under
may be the play for sure. D backs will be tested and they always seem to suck
 

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Got my Ducks + 3 1/2 earlier.. i think we're tough enough now to get the job done..
 
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Gatewood, Boobie, Kam, Shivers, DJ, Seth, Eli, Shwartz, Hastings, and Hill....too many weapons.....All 5 OL back...250+ yards rushing in the opener, and running downhill all season long.

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Gatewood, Boobie, Kam, Shivers, DJ, Seth, Eli, Shwartz, Hastings, and Hill....too many weapons.....All 5 OL back...250+ yards rushing in the opener, and running downhill all season long.

A&F

Most rate Auburn's DL a Top 10 unit nationally with many suggesting a Top 5. Derrick Brown, Marlon Davidson and Nick
Coe combined for 121 tackles, 28 tackles for loss, 15 sacks and 30 QB hurries last year. Tyron Truesdell, Big Cat Bryant,
T.D. Moultry, Richard Jibunor, Daquan Newkirk and Coynis Miller provide solid depth. If Auburn is going to beat Oregon,
the defensive line will lead the way.
 
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Most rate Auburn's DL a Top 10 unit nationally with many suggesting a Top 5. Derrick Brown, Marlon Davidson and Nick
Coe combined for 121 tackles, 28 tackles for loss, 15 sacks and 30 QB hurries last year. Tyron Truesdell, Big Cat Bryant,
T.D. Moultry, Richard Jibunor, Daquan Newkirk and Coynis Miller provide solid depth. If Auburn is going to beat Oregon,
the defensive line will lead the way.

I agree with all that you're saying; they have a stout front, and they're 2 deep with the 8-9 man rotation. The Oregon OL is rated as one of the best in the country, with experience across the line. This will be a battle, and both fronts should somewhat neutralize each other. I firmly believe people will be shocked when they see AU run the ball this season, and Oregon will feel that push right away....whether it's Gatewood or Nix under Center. I expect AU to run the ball with similar success as they did in 2016 with Kerryon Johnson and Kam Pettway. Should be a great opener!
 

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I agree with all that you're saying; they have a stout front, and they're 2 deep with the 8-9 man rotation. The Oregon OL is rated as one of the best in the country, with experience across the line. This will be a battle, and both fronts should somewhat neutralize each other. I firmly believe people will be shocked when they see AU run the ball this season, and Oregon will feel that push right away....whether it's Gatewood or Nix under Center. I expect AU to run the ball with similar success as they did in 2016 with Kerryon Johnson and Kam Pettway. Should be a great opener!

Hope ur right. Not sure what to expect after last year and then the blow out running game in the bowl
 
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Hope ur right. Not sure what to expect after last year and then the blow out running game in the bowl

I expect a team on a mission that will rally around a young QB early until that young QB has success in his own right and can win games on the road. Whether or not that young QB is Joey or Bo remains to be seen. So much of this seasons success will depend on this first game. It will be a battle for sure.
 

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I expect a team on a mission that will rally around a young QB early until that young QB has success in his own right and can win games on the road. Whether or not that young QB is Joey or Bo remains to be seen. So much of this seasons success will depend on this first game. It will be a battle for sure.

Think it prob plays out like last years Aub/Wash game
 

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Auburn should win, big: quality SEC team vs a PAC 12 team.
Big factor: look at the last few years bowl results for the soft PAC 12.
I’ll wait for more info until game day but at this point I’m reasonably sure that will be my selection.
 

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Auburn should win, big: quality SEC team vs a PAC 12 team.
Big factor: look at the last few years bowl results for the soft PAC 12.
I’ll wait for more info until game day but at this point I’m reasonably sure that will be my selection.

While I don’t disagree with you, judging who is the better conference based on Bowl results is a bit lazy.
 

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While I don’t disagree with you, judging who is the better conference based on Bowl results is a bit lazy.

Conference strength can be a key to succedssful handicapping of college football.

It has proven to be effective for several bowl seasons these are both bowl caliber teams. Lazy? I am too lazy right now to look it up now but last two years going against Pac 12 in bowls is about 75-80% winners.

The Pac 12 is AAA, SEC is the major leagues, check the Pac 12 results for several years.

I will research this game more with respect to returning starters, other factors etc, but at this point it is coming down to small, medium or BIG on Auburn.
 

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Conference strength can be a key to succedssful handicapping of college football.

It has proven to be effective for several bowl seasons these are both bowl caliber teams. Lazy? I am too lazy right now to look it up now but last two years going against Pac 12 in bowls is about 75-80% winners.

The Pac 12 is AAA, SEC is the major leagues, check the Pac 12 results for several years.

I will research this game more with respect to returning starters, other factors etc, but at this point it is coming down to small, medium or BIG on Auburn.

How can you judge conference strength based on Bowl games? I’m not saying the PAC-12 is good or that Auburn won’t win but meaningless bowl games are irrelevant.
 

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How can you judge conference strength based on Bowl games? I’m not saying the PAC-12 is good or that Auburn won’t win but meaningless bowl games are irrelevant.

"Meaningless" bowl games are "irrelevant"? You do not handicap games based upon previous games played? What do you use?

I can't help you. Unteachable. Unable to learn. You have harassed me on this point for years and I would think, by now, you would be embarrassed. Nope.

Again, look up the results the last several years, the Pac 12 is soft, is outmatched outside their conference, without looking it up I think they are less than 20% ATS at least in bowl contests. In the Oregon-Auburn game, the Pac 12 goes against the TOP conference, the SEC, and a strong winning team in that conference.
 

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"Meaningless" bowl games are "irrelevant"? You do not handicap games based upon previous games played? What do you use?

I can't help you. Unteachable. Unable to learn. You have harassed me on this point for years and I would think, by now, you would be embarrassed. Nope.

Again, look up the results the last several years, the Pac 12 is soft, is outmatched outside their conference, without looking it up I think they are less than 20% ATS at least in bowl contests. In the Oregon-Auburn game, the Pac 12 goes against the TOP conference, the SEC, and a strong winning team in that conference.

You mean the same bowl games nobody cares about playing in? As in the Suck A Turd.Com Bowl?

We should actually handicap a game taking place in 2019 because of bowl results from 2018? Are you trolling me?
 

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You mean the same bowl games nobody cares about playing in? As in the Suck A Turd.Com Bowl?

We should actually handicap a game taking place in 2019 because of bowl results from 2018? Are you trolling me?
Ridiculous.
Sure there are some letdowns when a good team plays in a lesser bowl than they had hoped. But overall > 90% the teams play hard, to win, are driven hard to win by the AD, coach, and coaching staff, and the players are all focused to win on national TV, compete for starting positions next year, look good for their final game, be able to tell people at work, at a BBQ, at a bar, the rest of their lives they won a goddam bowl game!

2017 Pac 12 2-7 ATS in bowl games
2018 Pac 12 2-5 ATS in bowl games (they vary with close point spreads)
TOTAL: Pac 12 is 4-12 ATS

Bet against the Pac 12 = 75% winners

This is indicative of the relative strength of conferences.
The public hears about how good the big power conference Pac 12 teams like Oregon or USC et al looked against their own conference for several months. Then they go into the real world of bowls against other conferences.
SURE I look at QB's, defense, motivation, coaching, home/away, running game, OL, DL, injuries, weather, turf but the fact that the Pac 12 is a soft conference is a key factor in my assessment.
 

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