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curious to what other rx members are thinking ?
 

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Very few in MLB, NFL, and NBA.

Can't come from the top down. It would involve involving people who would eventually talk. These are multibillion dollar industries. They could never put the integrity of their leagues on the line. It would crush them.
 
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Very few in MLB, NFL, and NBA.

Can't come from the top down. It would involve involving people who would eventually talk. These are multibillion dollar industries. They could never put the integrity of their leagues on the line. It would crush them.

That's a very logical stance, but when you follow betting lines closely as many of us do here, very curious things seem to happen on a pretty regular basis.

I'm not sure if "fixing" is the best way to phrase it, but it seems as though oddsmakers know a good bit more than the general public has access to.
 

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Did you see the ending of that ECU game? Impacted the total and the side
 
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Oh
 

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wtf


rams do not
cover both halves.



But cover the game wtd


Bet Rams +1/2 first half LOSE

Bet Rams -1 2nd half LOSE

rams cover +1.5 game W. TF
 

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Yes I’ve often wondered this. I have this belief that I’m being tracked and watched as to what team I bet on. Then the Free Masons call up the refs and make sure I lose.
 
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It’s not by sport. It’s by situation. It can happen in any sport in any situation.


Unless we are talking about point shaving or players intentionally trying to lose. But that’s not happening in pro sports
 

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When that ref got caught fixing games a few years ago. Do you think he's the only one?

The guy even wrote a book about it
 

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When that ref got caught fixing games a few years ago. Do you think he's the only one?

The guy even wrote a book about it
title of book ? / authors name ?
 

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1. It is not debatable that games have been "fixed" in the past in all major sports.
2. The term "fixed" can mean very different things. For instance, a FG kicker could intentionally miss two kicks. Does that mean the over still won't cash? no. Does it mean his team might not still cover? no. But it greatly increases the odds of those events. In other words, the game may not be fixed in some instances to a 100% result, it is just influenced to make the desired result far more likely.
3. There are ways to limit your exposure to "fixed" games. For instance, if you are a successful originator and a line keeps moving away from your number, and by kickoff you have the variance needed to make a wager, you may well be betting into a fixed game. You can either limit your bet size or avoid these types of plays. Because one thing is almost certain, the line move will coincide with the "fix". You often hear someone say "Vegas called" but rarely do you see Vegas on the correct side of the suspicious game. How could they be, when the fixers are pounding the side that it is fixed for?

One thing people fail to realize is that in Professional sports, it doesn't take much to heavily influence an outcome. The NFL lines are probably only less tight than major soccer lines but they are super tight, however you want to look at it. A 1 pt move in the NFL is very significant. How hard is it to influence a side or a total by just a couple points? And that is all that is needed to make good money.

I would say the most obvious football game fix that I ever saw was this gem ( consolation prize to San Diego/Pittsburgh ):

https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/303020041

If you want a good laugh, you could check out the line movement of both the full game and halftime spreads. Hilarity.
 

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Every sport with significant gambling opportunities contains elements of fixing.
 

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Pro Players are clean.

They make too much money to risk anything.

Refs? I suppose its possible....but probably not. Its still a great gig and why risk jail time?

I would say one percent of one percent that are suspected have any basis to it
 

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