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    Impeachment reversal: Diplomat now acknowledges quid pro quo





    WASHINGTON (AP) — "I now do recall."

    With that stunning reversal, diplomat Gordon Sondland handed House impeachment investigators another key piece of corroborating testimony Tuesday. He acknowledged what Democrats contend was a clear quid pro quo, pushed by President Donald Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, with Ukraine.
    Sondland, in an addendum to his sworn earlier testimony, said that military assistance to the East European ally was being withheld until Ukraine's new president agreed to release a statement about fighting corruption as Trump wanted. Sondland knows that proposed arrangement to be a fact, he said, because he was the one who carried the message to a Ukrainian official on the sidelines of a conference in Warsaw with Vice President Mike Pence.
    "I said that resumption of U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anti-corruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks," Sondland recalled.
    His three-page update, tucked beneath hundreds of pages of sworn testimony from Sondland and former Ukraine Special Envoy Kurt Volker, was released by House investigators as Democrats prepared to push the closed-door sessions to public hearings as soon as next week.
    Trump has denied any quid pro quo, but Democrats say there is a singular narrative developing since the president's July 25 call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy when he first asked for "a favor." That request, which sparked the impeachment inquiry, included a public investigation into Ukrainian activities by Democratic former Vice President Joe Biden and his son and Trump's allegations of Ukrainian interference in the 2016 U.S. election.
    Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., the chairman of the Intelligence Committee, said the House panels conducting the inquiry are releasing the word-by-word transcripts of the past weeks' closed-door hearings so the American public can decide for themselves.
    "This is about more than just one call," Schiff wrote Tuesday in an op-ed in USA Today. "We now know that the call was just one piece of a larger operation to redirect our foreign policy to benefit Donald Trump's personal and political interests, not the national interest."
    Pushing back, White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham issued a statement saying the transcripts "show there is even less evidence for this illegitimate impeachment sham than previously thought."
    In the transcripts and accompanying cache of text messages, U.S. diplomats are shown trying to navigate the demands of Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, who they soon learn is running a back-channel U.S. foreign policy on Ukraine.
    "It kept getting more insidious," Sondland told investigators, as the "timeline went on."
    Sondland testified that he spoke with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo about Giuliani, "and Pompeo rolled his eyes and said: 'Yes, it's something we have to deal with.'"
    In his revised testimony, Sondland, a wealthy businessman who donated $1 million to Trump's inauguration, says his memory was refreshed by the opening statements of two other inquiry witnesses, the top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine, William Taylor, and Tim Morrison, a European expert at the National Security Council.
    The ambassador initially testified on Oct. 17 that he did not "recall taking part in any effort to encourage an investigation into the Bidens." He told investigators he didn't know that the Ukraine firm Burisma, that Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate, was linked to Joe Biden's son Hunter.
    But in the weeks since a May visit to Kyiv for Zelenskiy's inauguration, Sondland and the other diplomats had been heavily involved in Ukraine policy and in text messages about what Trump wanted as they came to realize the military assistance was being withheld.
    Volker and Sondland both testified they were disappointed after briefing Trump at the White House about the new leader of the young democracy who was vowing to fight corruption.
    At a pivotal May 23 meeting, Trump "went on and on and on about how Ukraine is a disaster and they're bad people," Sondland testified.
    Trump holds an alternative view, pushed by Giuliani, that it was Ukraine, not Russia, that interfered in the 2016 elections in the U.S., a theory counter to U.S. intelligence findings.
    "'They tried to take me down.' He kept saying that over and over," Sondland recalled Trump saying.
    Trump told the diplomats to work with Giuliani on Ukraine issues.
    Over the time that followed, Volker and Sondland proposed to Zelenskiy's top aide, Andriy Yermak, that they a draft statement to be issued by Ukraine on potential interference with the U.S. political process. At Giuliani's urging, that statement needed to have an "insert at end with 2 key items:" Burisma and the 2016 U.S. elections.
    "It was Mr. Giuliani who said: If it doesn't say Burisma and 2016, it's not credible, because what are they hiding?" Volker testified.
    Pressed by investigators, Sondland testified that it would be improper for the U.S. to prompt Ukraine to investigate the Biden family. "It doesn't sound good."
    The statement was never issued, as Ukraine refused it. Volker said he told Yermak it was "not a good idea."
    Questions swirled after a government whistleblower's August complaint about Trump's phone call with Zelenskiy.
    By September, Sondland also told investigators, Trump was in a "bad mood" and nearly hung up on him when the ambassador asked what it was he wanted from Ukraine.
    "I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo," Trump said, according to Sondland. "I want Zelenskiy to do the right thing."
    As House investigators released more transcripts Tuesday, they also announced they want to hear from Trump's acting chief of staff and a top aide to Pence, reaching to the highest levels of the White House.
    Pence spokeswoman Katie Waldman said the vice president was unaware of the "brief pull-aside conversation" that Sondland reported having with Yermak. She also said Pence was unaware of the ongoing back-and-forth over the statement, and that it never came up during his meeting with Zelenskiy.
    At a closed-door lunch Tuesday, Pence told Senate Republicans the funds were being withheld over concerns that the Europeans weren't contributing enough aid and issues of corruption in Ukraine, according to a person familiar with the meeting but unauthorized to discuss it and granted anonymity.
    Trump says the probe is illegitimate and the administration has resumed its efforts to block the inquiry as two more White House officials, an energy adviser and a budget official, declined to appear Tuesday before investigators, even after one received a subpoena.
    Meanwhile, investigators said they wanted to hear on Friday from Trump's acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney. They contend his news conference last month amounted to "nothing less than a televised confession" of Trump's efforts to have Ukraine investigate Democrats and Biden as the White House was blocking military funding.
    Trump says he did nothing wrong, and Mulvaney later walked back his remarks.
    The White House has instructed its officials not to comply with the impeachment inquiry being led by House Democrats. Mulvaney is not expected to appear.
    Republicans have been unable to deliver a unified argument against the impeachment probe, but Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Tuesday he's "pretty sure" how it all will end.
    McConnell said he believes Trump will stay in the White House. "I don't think there's any question it would not lead to a removal," he said.
    A top Trump ally, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., told reporters he doesn't plan to read the transcripts, calling the whole inquiry "bunch of B.S."
    Sondland closed his addendum to the House investigators saying he may have had a second call with Trump, but has been unable to obtain phone records and "cannot specifically recall" if that was the case.
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    Associated Press writers Colleen Long, Matthew Lee, Matthew Daly, Alan Fram, Andrew Taylor, Jill Colvin and Padmananda Rama contributed to this report.
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    Republicans Go Mute After Latest Ukraine Bombshell


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    Republicans Go Mute After Latest Ukraine Bombshell


    Senate Republicans ducked for cover on Tuesday after a top Trump administration diplomat revised his testimony in the House impeachment inquiry to acknowledge that U.S. aid to Ukraine was being withheld until the country promised to investigate a company tied to former Vice President Joe Biden’s son.
    Gordon Sondland, a top donor to President Donald Trump who then picked him to serve as ambassador to the European Union, confirmed in an addendum on Monday to his testimony last month that he was involved in Trump’s attempted quid pro quo with Ukraine’s government after previously claiming he could not recall the details.
    Sondland said his memory had been “refreshed,” and that he now recalled telling an aide to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Sept. 1 that “resumption of U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anti-corruption statement.” The statement, the Ukrainians were advised, ought to include Burisma, the company on whose corporate board Hunter Biden served while his father was vice president.
    Sondland’s reversal, which only came after several other top Trump administration officials contradicted his initial testimony and put him in legal jeopardy, is likely to undercut Republican messaging about the impeachment inquiry. GOP lawmakers have steadily denied the existence of a quid pro quo involving the Bidens ever since Trump released a July 25 summary of his call with Zelensky during which the U.S. president requested an investigation into the Bidens.
    Several Senate Republicans declined on Tuesday to respond directly to questions about Sondland’s revised testimony, as well as the president’s attacks against the whistleblower whose complaint helped ignite the impeachment inquiry.
    “I’m going to wait until we get the case from the House and withhold judgment on the daily revelations, charges, witnesses and all the rest ... that’s really all I have to say about that,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said at his weekly press conference at the Capitol.
    Sen. Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia similarly declined to comment when asked if she believed it was appropriate to condition aid to Ukraine in exchange for an investigation into the Bidens,
    “These are judgments that we’re obviously going to have to make when it comes over here,” Capito told reporters, referring to the prospect of a Senate impeachment trial.
    But some Republicans continued to express skepticism about the House impeachment inquiry even when pressed about Sondland’s new admission.
    “Is it against the law? Is it a crime? I don’t know that it is,” Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama said, adding he would reserve judgment until and if the House drafts articles of impeachment.
    Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa insisted that Tuesday’s bombshell admission from a top Trump diplomat and backer that a quid pro quo involving Ukraine aid was sought did not, in fact, confirm a quid pro quo.
    “What difference does it make? This was all out with the document the president put out two months ago,” he said, referring to the July 25 call summary of Trump’s call with Zelensky.
    Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said he was refusing to read any deposition transcripts released by House impeachment investigators. The top Trump ally and Senate Judiciary Committee chairman dismissed the process as “a bunch of B.S.”
    Later on Tuesday, Graham told reporters that he found Sondland’s new testimony “unpersuasive” because the diplomat told House investigators he “presumed” aid to Ukraine was linked to a statement about investigations. However, Sondland also is now testifying that he told a top Ukrainian official the resumption of aid would “likely not occur” until the government issued such a statement.
    Sen. Mike Braun of Indiana, meanwhile, said he was skeptical any new testimony brought against the president would change the minds of Senate Republicans.
    “Regardless of how many people you bring out to make the point, I don’t think that’s going to do the job for most of us to change our opinion,” Braun said, urging a focus on the summary of Trump’s July 25 conversation with Zelensky.
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    High crimes and ̶m̶i̶s̶d̶e̶m̶e̶a̶n̶o̶r̶s̶ quid pro quos!!!

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    Page 106: Sondland to Trump: "What do you want from Ukraine?" Now go READ THE FUCKING TRANSCRIPT, you delusional piece of shit and TELL ME what TRUMP'S answer was to that question, clown.

    Sondland revised his testimony to make it clear up he was giving personal opinions. He admitted he had NO idea if his opinion was true. He admitted he had no idea as to the status of the aid, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bilbal View Post
    Page 106: Sondland to Trump: "What do you want from Ukraine?" Now go READ THE FUCKING TRANSCRIPT, you delusional piece of shit and TELL ME what TRUMP'S answer was to that question, clown.

    Sondland revised his testimony to make it clear up he was giving personal opinions. He admitted he had NO idea if his opinion was true. He admitted he had no idea as to the status of the aid, either.

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    Who gives a flying fuck what Dump's answer is to ANYTHING, you dumb bastard???? Point is, Sondland'S "revision" means his "opinion" matches up with, oh, the 2 women ambassadors, Taylor, Vondman, and, oh, yes, Mick Mullvaney. You've "forgotten" what HE said? How come ALL those opinions, all from people who were connected with his adminstration, differ from the "opinion" of that rancid turd?

    https://theweek.com/articles/876727/...p-another-blow

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    Support for impeachment slips 4 points from October: poll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dafinch View Post
    Who gives a flying fuck what Dump's answer is to ANYTHING, you dumb bastard???? Point is, Sondland'S "revision" means his "opinion" matches up with, oh, the 2 women ambassadors, Taylor, Vondman, and, oh, yes, Mick Mullvaney. You've "forgotten" what HE said? How come ALL those opinions, all from people who were connected with his adminstration, differ from the "opinion" of that rancid turd?

    https://theweek.com/articles/876727/...p-another-blow

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    Zeldin: “and in no way shape or form did you receive any indication whatsoever for anything that resembles quid pro quo.”

    Volker: Correct
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dafinch View Post
    Who gives a flying fuck what Dump's answer is to ANYTHING, you dumb bastard???? Point is, Sondland'S "revision" means his "opinion" matches up with, oh, the 2 women ambassadors, Taylor, Vondman, and, oh, yes, Mick Mullvaney. You've "forgotten" what HE said? How come ALL those opinions, all from people who were connected with his adminstration, differ from the "opinion" of that rancid turd?

    https://theweek.com/articles/876727/...p-another-blow

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    Admit it, you're just too stupid to even find the transcript, aren't you, dunce? Trump said I do not want any quid pro quo. That was backed up by several people who testified, including Volker. Sondland made one thing perfectly clear in his revision and that was that he was GIVING HIS OPINION. Because he had no proof, he had no evidence, he had nothing but an OPINION and he wanted to make that clear. Carry on, shit for brains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bilbal View Post
    Admit it, you're just too stupid to even find the transcript, aren't you, dunce? Trump said I do not want any quid pro quo. That was backed up by several people who testified, including Volker. Sondland made one thing perfectly clear in his revision and that was that he was GIVING HIS OPINION. Because he had no proof, he had no evidence, he had nothing but an OPINION and he wanted to make that clear. Carry on, shit for brains.
    Backed up by "Several" people???? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! Who are those "several?" You're a lying sack of shit, as usual. And, the fact that Volker "pushed back" against Rudy Looney is hardly comforting to Twittler twat lickers:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...onal-testimony

    And, why are you conveniently ignoring all the people that I mentioned who DO say there was quid pro quo-most of all Mick, who just got subpoenaed, you brain dead prick? Hey, keep saying up is down, like your hilariously stupid contention that Dump has broken no laws when I showed you EXACTLY what laws he HAS broken.
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    Zeldin: “and in no way shape or form did you receive any indication whatsoever for anything that resembles quid pro quo.”

    Volker: Correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gas Man View Post
    Zeldin: “and in no way shape or form did you receive any indication whatsoever for anything that resembles quid pro quo.”

    Volker: Correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dafinch View Post
    Backed up by "Several" people???? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! Who are those "several?" You're a lying sack of shit, as usual. And, the fact that Volker "pushed back" against Rudy Looney is hardly comforting to Twittler twat lickers:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...onal-testimony

    And, why are you conveniently ignoring all the people that I mentioned who DO say there was quid pro quo-most of all Mick, who just got subpoenaed, you brain dead prick? Hey, keep saying up is down, like your hilariously stupid contention that Dump has broken no laws when I showed you EXACTLY what laws he HAS broken.
    No one who has claimed there was QPQ can point it out on the transcript of the call. They have NO facts, NO evidence, and offered their OPINIONS. Sondland even going back to make sure it was clear he was only giving his OPINION.

    The two people actually having the conversation both state that there was no quid pro quo for any aid and Democrats are trying to tell them that: they are both wrong; that they did not interpret their own conversation correctly; that only other people can correctly interpret their phone conversation; after they interpreted it their way, they feel President Trump is, somehow, the one who committed an impeachable act. Yeah, not only will that flop in the Senate, it might not even get out of the House it's so weak.

    And lastly, Trump has not broken any of the laws you cited. That's just your vicious TDS fucking with your ability to think, as evidenced by the many bumped threads of your failures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bilbal View Post
    No one who has claimed there was QPQ can point it out on the transcript of the call. They have NO facts, NO evidence, and offered their OPINIONS. Sondland even going back to make sure it was clear he was only giving his OPINION.

    The two people actually having the conversation both state that there was no quid pro quo for any aid and Democrats are trying to tell them that: they are both wrong; that they did not interpret their own conversation correctly; that only other people can correctly interpret their phone conversation; after they interpreted it their way, they feel President Trump is, somehow, the one who committed an impeachable act. Yeah, not only will that flop in the Senate, it might not even get out of the House it's so weak.

    And lastly, Trump has not broken any of the laws you cited. That's just your vicious TDS fucking with your ability to think, as evidenced by the many bumped threads of your failures.
    ROTFLMAO!!!!! You're not just a steaming, lying, turd, you're very bad at it. Let's take a look at two groups:

    No quid pro quo: Twittler, Mullvaney

    Quid pro quo: Taylor, Vindman, Marie Yovanovitch, Fiona Hill, Sondland

    First of all, not only is 5-2, it's 5-2 with Mullvaney having admitted that, not only was there definitely a quid pro quo, it happens "all the time" and we should "get over it. Of course, he reversed himself hours later, what is your explanation for him 1) saying what he said, and 2) almost immediately reversing it? Something tells me I'll be waiting a LONG time for an answer to that.

    What do the five people have in common? Well, for one thing, they were all, in some capacity, hired by Twittler or his people-not "18 angry Democrats," all of them in his administration-Vindman was the friggin' expert on Ukraine, fer crissakes, and, for REALLY human scum who had the balls to accuse him of being a traitor, he passed an extensive background check, unlike Dump's rubber-tittied, me-love-you-LONG-time-Daddy daughter, and her scrawny, sleazy mute of a husband. And, Sondland was about as far from being a "Never Trumper" as you can get: he stupidly gave the Orange Ape a million bucks so he could close to "greatness," and was dutifully gulping down the Twittler Kool Aide until he realized he was looking at BIG 'ole perjury charge. So, I am curious, also, as to your explanation, as to how and why FIVE people aligned with Trump in some way or another, suddenly, went "mad" en masse and stated that he did, indeed, ask for a qpq? I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you're not gonna answer THAT, either, you gutless turd.

    There is one other important thing The Five have in common: they have all testified UNDER OATH, whereas, Twittler and Mick-the-not-so-Quick can, and do, talk outta their asses-and that's, EXACTLY why Mick wouldn't testify-so, good luck with backing two idiots who have both, in their own way, confessed to abuse of power, schmuck.

    keeACTLY what laws he HAS broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dafinch View Post
    ROTFLMAO!!!!! You're not just a steaming, lying, turd, you're very bad at it. Let's take a look at two groups:

    No quid pro quo: Twittler, Mullvaney

    Quid pro quo: Taylor, Vindman, Marie Yovanovitch, Fiona Hill, Sondland

    First of all, not only is 5-2, it's 5-2 with Mullvaney having admitted that, not only was there definitely a quid pro quo, it happens "all the time" and we should "get over it. Of course, he reversed himself hours later, what is your explanation for him 1) saying what he said, and 2) almost immediately reversing it? Something tells me I'll be waiting a LONG time for an answer to that.

    What do the five people have in common? Well, for one thing, they were all, in some capacity, hired by Twittler or his people-not "18 angry Democrats," all of them in his administration-Vindman was the friggin' expert on Ukraine, fer crissakes, and, for REALLY human scum who had the balls to accuse him of being a traitor, he passed an extensive background check, unlike Dump's rubber-tittied, me-love-you-LONG-time-Daddy daughter, and her scrawny, sleazy mute of a husband. And, Sondland was about as far from being a "Never Trumper" as you can get: he stupidly gave the Orange Ape a million bucks so he could close to "greatness," and was dutifully gulping down the Twittler Kool Aide until he realized he was looking at BIG 'ole perjury charge. So, I am curious, also, as to your explanation, as to how and why FIVE people aligned with Trump in some way or another, suddenly, went "mad" en masse and stated that he did, indeed, ask for a qpq? I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you're not gonna answer THAT, either, you gutless turd.

    There is one other important thing The Five have in common: they have all testified UNDER OATH, whereas, Twittler and Mick-the-not-so-Quick can, and do, talk outta their asses-and that's, EXACTLY why Mick wouldn't testify-so, good luck with backing two idiots who have both, in their own way, confessed to abuse of power, schmuck.

    keeACTLY what laws he HAS broken.
    NO quid pro quo: the TWO PEOPLE HAVING THE CONVERSATION
    Quid Pro Quo: everyone with TDS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dafinch View Post
    ROTFLMAO!!!!! You're not just a steaming, lying, turd, you're very bad at it. Let's take a look at two groups:

    No quid pro quo: Twittler, Mullvaney

    Quid pro quo: Taylor, Vindman, Marie Yovanovitch, Fiona Hill, Sondland

    First of all, not only is 5-2, it's 5-2 with Mullvaney having admitted that, not only was there definitely a quid pro quo, it happens "all the time" and we should "get over it. Of course, he reversed himself hours later, what is your explanation for him 1) saying what he said, and 2) almost immediately reversing it? Something tells me I'll be waiting a LONG time for an answer to that.

    What do the five people have in common? Well, for one thing, they were all, in some capacity, hired by Twittler or his people-not "18 angry Democrats," all of them in his administration-Vindman was the friggin' expert on Ukraine, fer crissakes, and, for REALLY human scum who had the balls to accuse him of being a traitor, he passed an extensive background check, unlike Dump's rubber-tittied, me-love-you-LONG-time-Daddy daughter, and her scrawny, sleazy mute of a husband. And, Sondland was about as far from being a "Never Trumper" as you can get: he stupidly gave the Orange Ape a million bucks so he could close to "greatness," and was dutifully gulping down the Twittler Kool Aide until he realized he was looking at BIG 'ole perjury charge. So, I am curious, also, as to your explanation, as to how and why FIVE people aligned with Trump in some way or another, suddenly, went "mad" en masse and stated that he did, indeed, ask for a qpq? I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you're not gonna answer THAT, either, you gutless turd.

    There is one other important thing The Five have in common: they have all testified UNDER OATH, whereas, Twittler and Mick-the-not-so-Quick can, and do, talk outta their asses-and that's, EXACTLY why Mick wouldn't testify-so, good luck with backing two idiots who have both, in their own way, confessed to abuse of power, schmuck.

    keeACTLY what laws he HAS broken.
    Actually, should be:

    NO QUID PRO QUO: Both people on the conversation - President Trump and President Zelensky
    QUID PRO QUO: People who didnt listen to the conversation and dont have first hand knowledge Taylor, Vindman, Marie Yovanovitch, Fiona Hill, Sondland

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    Voting against impeachment inquiry: Bi-partisan both Democrats and Republicans

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    Quote Originally Posted by bilbal View Post
    NO quid pro quo: the TWO PEOPLE HAVING THE CONVERSATION
    Quid Pro Quo: everyone with TDS

    nice try, douche
    Hmmmm, did you forget Mullvaney's admission in front of the world? I think you did, Scumbag. And, you and Roman can't POSSIBLY be so stupid that you ignore that one, the guy being shaken down is not likely to contradict the "shaker" when the latter is still around, and, two, the Ukrainian's administration has let it be known that they had been feeling pressure MONTHS before the July call, asshole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NFLTrends View Post
    Actually, should be:

    NO QUID PRO QUO: Both people on the conversation - President Trump and President Zelensky
    QUID PRO QUO: People who didnt listen to the conversation and dont have first hand knowledge Taylor, Vindman, Marie Yovanovitch, Fiona Hill, Sondland

    Voting for impeachment inquiry: 100% democrats 0% Republicans
    Voting against impeachment inquiry: Bi-partisan both Democrats and Republicans

    Just facts listed, no insults or deflections. Honest debate coming?
    Uhhhh, Vindman DID listen to the call, you lying sack of shit. Also, why would a Dump backer, Sondland, say that it WAS a QPQ and "illegal?" And, where is that picture you said you were gonna post, Roman?
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