Minnesota is a 3 point dog on the road to Iowa, and ranked 7th? Where is the value?

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But it makes all the sense in the world. Let downs are real, Lets see how good Fleck really is. Vegas says he is just another over paid gym teacher.
 

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Vegas is looking at a let down and the fact that Minny hasn't won at Iowa since 1999. Minn has done a lot of firsts this year. When one of their captains was asked after the P St game about not beating Iowa since 99, he said "we have done a lot of things that haven't been done here in a log time. We're going to enjoy this win for 24 hours and then we move on to our Iowa game and the new Iowa season at 0-0. PJ has them breaking their season down into one game lots. I've already played Minny and will add ml when it's available. Gophers roll.
 

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I like your passion, special season for Minn for sure. I had PSU teased :ohno:so FU Minn

However, Since when has the 7th ranked team gone on the road and was a dog to a 3 loss team? I would like Minn more if they came in as a -7 or -10 favorite vs Iowa, As a proper 7th ranked team facing a 3 loss team on the road would.

Having not won in Iowa means very little. Teams turnover is 30-40% a year. In 1999 most of these players were in shitty diapers.

It seems to me that Vegas is saying, PSU really lost that game, not that Minn really won it. I had PSU because Minn had not really played anyone and had 3 close games vs weak talent.

BOL I hope Minn wins out.
 

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But it makes all the sense in the world. Let downs are real, Lets see how good Fleck really is. Vegas says he is just another over paid gym teacher.

Dude this is just an idiotic statement, just behind teasing NCAAF sides and totals.

Overpaid gym teacher?? Ok

This guy has completely turned this program around, this game won't define him.
 

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Here is a good research project. When has a 9-0 P5 team ranked 7th in country, gone on the road as a dog to a 3 point dog to a un ranked P5 team?

Minn has played no one and barely beat 3 much smaller teams. Yes, they beat PSU at home last week, that's not unusual. PSU played poorly and lost as a road favorite.

Listen to Vegas they are telling you Fleck and Minn are about to be exposed. This week will be the true test of Fleck, if he wins then, Minn is for real. If Minn loses they are just an average team that is 9-1 and will play in a nice bowl. A reward for a very nice season.

Sorry if Fleck is a PE teacher and not a Gym teacher, either way they are all vastly over paid, except Willie Taggert, I doubt he passed the PE teacher certificate test.puff_>>
 
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If Minny wins out, they are going to the CFP. I give props to Fleck for turning Minny into a SOLID team. I was pleasantly surprised last week when Minny won. Still dont know if they are for real but its a nice story

If this was Scott Frost's Nebraska team at 9-0, they'd be a top 3 team and we'd be hearing how great he is
 

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I will take Iowa in this game. Letdown city. Penn State is good but no worldbeater.
 

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No letdown.
These kids are undefeated, you think with only a few games to go they won’t give it everything? Of course they will.
Iowa might win because they are good and play well, not because of a letdown, Minny will be fired up.
 

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No chance of being undefeated
@ Iowa
@ Nwestern
Wisconsin
Ohio St
Fugetboutit

What if they go 2-1 and win the Championship game though
 

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Here is a good research project. When has a 9-0 P5 team ranked 7th in country, gone on the road as a dog to a 3 point dog to a un ranked P5 team?

Minn has played no one and barely beat 3 much smaller teams. Yes, they beat PSU at home last week, that's not unusual. PSU played poorly and lost as a road favorite.

Listen to Vegas they are telling you Fleck and Minn are about to be exposed. This week will be the true test of Fleck, if he wins then, Minn is for real. If Minn loses they are just an average team that is 9-1 and will play in a nice bowl. A reward for a very nice season.

Sorry if Fleck is a PE teacher and not a Gym teacher, either way they are all vastly over paid, except Willie Taggert, I doubt he passed the PE teacher certificate test.puff_>>

Iowa is ranked #23.

Rankings mean absolutely nothing when it comes to the lines, rankings are subjective.

Again, this game is hardly a referendum on Fleck. He has completely turned this program around.

They had some unimpressive win early, and they aren't good enough to be a Final Four team.

There is zero chance of a let down, they are undefeated and have a lot to play for..and please for the Love of God spare us your stories of college glory and how you know all about the psychology of college football players.

You love the sound of your own voice, and you come off as just another know it all. I could write a book on your incorrect predictions.

Iowa may beat Minnesota, that doesn't make Fleck just another coach. It just adds to your total of asinine comments.
 

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If Scott Frost was coaching 9-0 Minn would they be a -10 vs a 3 loss Iowa on the road? Vegas would try to milk the public's perception of Scott Frost, by pumping them higher with a -10 spread vs Iowa. I don't think they would get -10 in that situation, -7 would be more like it. Yet with the same team with Fleck coaching Vegas can't depend on the public's perception to put -7 out there. So ya get a number that reflects the public's perception of Fleck +3.

Fleck has done nothing compared to Frost, he has a lot of proving to do. It will start with this Iowa game. Win at Iowa as a dog, and Fleck is on his way to graduating from glorified PE teacher to a coach worthy of at least a PK in this situation.

Vegas has billions in resources, I'm just a guy sitting on the beach road in Pattaya with a lap top, waiting for my ride to dinner and a massage.:howdy:
 

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yes fleck has done nothing.. go to top 5 open jobs right now .... see if they want fleck or frost..
i bet 100% want fleck
but if i teased it i would bet 130% want him
 
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I think you have to consider Vegas does not think Minny is real. They could have real exposure here with this line, but they certainly think Iowa can use the big uglies and lean on Minnesota and hurt them. The big plays, shock plays, turnovers really helped Minnesota and momentum in their win over Penn St. Those aren't always there, and an Iowa team that can hold the ball for a bit may hurt them. However, It think Minny can slow Iowa down and it may to take many points to win this game, 20-24 points could win it, so not many possessions needed.
 
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yes fleck has done nothing.. go to top 5 open jobs right now .... see if they want fleck or frost..
i bet 100% want fleck
but if i teased it i would bet 130% want him

Every coaching vacancy right now will need to make him say no, right along with Rhule and Campbell, then they can maven to their next list of candidates. One of those three possibly could say yes to a program like FSU or USC, I hope one would say yes to Arkansas because I am a fan but that is completely unlikely.
 

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No clue on this game, could see either team winning by 4 points.
I HOPE Minnesota wins out and plays Ohio State in the CCG undefeated.
That will be a curb stomping like no other and a wallet fattener for all of us.
 

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If you can find the stat on undefeated teams getting points this late in the season I don't know what it is but my recollection is they dont win much. Iowa wins and covers.
 

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Here is a good research project. When has a 9-0 P5 team ranked 7th in country, gone on the road as a dog to a 3 point dog to a un ranked P5 team?

Minn has played no one and barely beat 3 much smaller teams. Yes, they beat PSU at home last week, that's not unusual. PSU played poorly and lost as a road favorite.

Listen to Vegas they are telling you Fleck and Minn are about to be exposed. This week will be the true test of Fleck, if he wins then, Minn is for real. If Minn loses they are just an average team that is 9-1 and will play in a nice bowl. A reward for a very nice season.

Sorry if Fleck is a PE teacher and not a Gym teacher, either way they are all vastly over paid, except Willie Taggert, I doubt he passed the PE teacher certificate test.puff_>>
@rolltide
 

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If you can find the stat on undefeated teams getting points this late in the season I don't know what it is but my recollection is they dont win much. Iowa wins and covers.

Your recollection is incorrect, which is why its always better to look at data rather than memory.

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