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Can someone explain the logic, not the upside possibility, of why CLV is favored? Pit gets an OL back, Connor back, and this isnt Rudolph's first game. Let's be honest, if Pit wins, its bc of game control, and defense, and most likely, winning the TO margin. This isnt game 2 or 3 or 4, this is game 10 for Cleveland and what have they done consistently, or at all that makes them favored vs any team not named miami, cincy, NY whatevers? They turn the ball over way too much, they are awful in redzone and last week, even in a win, had something like 8 plays inside the 5 and got ZERO points vs Buf. I really like the playmakers Cleveland has, obv chubb,Landry, OBJ, and I'm even rooting for Baker to have a good career but there are way, way too many things that just make the browns losers. Penalties, not just TOs, but stupid TOs, and horrible redzone offense, no pass protection, I mean what will it take for people to realize they are a year or so away along with prob a different coach needed.

Anyways, I'll take the team with the better def, creates more turnovers, and a much, much better coach. Short week doesnt matter, given the distance, CLE gets first home win in week 10, so no real advantage. Idc about schedule. Wrong team favored here.

Good luck.
 

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Can someone explain the logic, not the upside possibility, of why CLV is favored? Pit gets an OL back, Connor back, and this isnt Rudolph's first game. Let's be honest, if Pit wins, its bc of game control, and defense, and most likely, winning the TO margin. This isnt game 2 or 3 or 4, this is game 10 for Cleveland and what have they done consistently, or at all that makes them favored vs any team not named miami, cincy, NY whatevers? They turn the ball over way too much, they are awful in redzone and last week, even in a win, had something like 8 plays inside the 5 and got ZERO points vs Buf. I really like the playmakers Cleveland has, obv chubb,Landry, OBJ, and I'm even rooting for Baker to have a good career but there are way, way too many things that just make the browns losers. Penalties, not just TOs, but stupid TOs, and horrible redzone offense, no pass protection, I mean what will it take for people to realize they are a year or so away along with prob a different coach needed.

Anyways, I'll take the team with the better def, creates more turnovers, and a much, much better coach. Short week doesnt matter, given the distance, CLE gets first home win in week 10, so no real advantage. Idc about schedule. Wrong team favored here.

Good luck.
I must agree with you, good luck buddy!!!!!
 

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  • Cleveland is talented, loaded with #1 & # 2 draft choices
  • Cleveland has two very good running backs, one just got back for this game
  • Cleveland has two TOP WRs
  • Cleveland DL and defense is pretty good
  • At home
  • Short week, Thurs night game always tough on visitor
  • Cleveland has played a very difficult schedule
  • Mayfield has had games when he was spectacular
  • Cleveland still thinks they can run the table and get into the playoffs since they play a VERY weak schedule after this game
  • Steeler QB is rookie
  • Steeler coach is not the sharpest knife

I think this game is a toss up, last score will cover, I am not selecting Cleveland, but you asked...
 

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cleveland may have the more talented players at some positions, but they don't seem to be playing too well as a team. I think coaching has a lot to do with it. I'm on Pitt, too. Good luck.
 

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  • Cleveland is talented, loaded with #1 & # 2 draft choices
  • Cleveland has two very good running backs, one just got back for this game
  • Cleveland has two TOP WRs
  • Cleveland DL and defense is pretty good
  • At home
  • Short week, Thurs night game always tough on visitor
  • Cleveland has played a very difficult schedule
  • Mayfield has had games when he was spectacular
  • Cleveland still thinks they can run the table and get into the playoffs since they play a VERY weak schedule after this game
  • Steeler QB is rookie
  • Steeler coach is not the sharpest knife

I think this game is a toss up, last score will cover, I am not selecting Cleveland, but you asked...

Agree ... Excellent Analysis
 

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Agree ... Excellent Analysis

Currently 14-7 Cleveland but your analysis of more talent, etc...they have more physically gifted players than alot of teams they've lost to but mentally (coaching, bad TOs, and horrible coaching) makes them the losing browns. BUT, BUT of course their DEF shows up so far tonight. NFL is weird.
 

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Agree ... Excellent Analysis

My reply was meant for this post...I respect you at times as a regular poster but not even you can really believe half that shit...i.e., Tomlin not the sharpest...um, hes coaching against a guy that could easily lose his job as soon as this game is over...loaded with 1st and 2nd draftees...they have been for years...two top WRs?? Before tonight, havent done shit. I mean, come on man, Cleveland obv could win this game and cover but the analysis is pretty awful
 

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My reply was meant for this post...I respect you at times as a regular poster but not even you can really believe half that shit...i.e., Tomlin not the sharpest...um, hes coaching against a guy that could easily lose his job as soon as this game is over...loaded with 1st and 2nd draftees...they have been for years...two top WRs?? Before tonight, havent done shit. I mean, come on man, Cleveland obv could win this game and cover but the analysis is pretty awful[/QUOTE]

My analysis actually was damn good. Cleveland could have won by 21, 28. I listed several points that favored The Bowns, there were more but that was sufficient.

There are points that supported Pittsburg, too. But the original poster asked why Cleveland was favored.

You apparently do not understand the rationale I cited. So keep watching, reading, and learning about football.

GL!
 

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