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parx race 5


now there are times when this layout happens the chalks come in 1-2-3 we have all have seen it but-------

talk about a fuck fest( forgive my cursing) all the graphs are spinning here cant even call the fav although i think its the #8
everyone except for( belly dancer )could win here so very careful
shop for your price


the 3 horses with the most upside are 9,6,2
be forewarned not that eassssssyyyyyyyyyyy

rely on your instincts to play out



parx race 6

here is where it gets interesting

#4 uptown charlie brown ( 6-1ml) should actually be challenging for favouritism here on the line

but here comes the catch is he done like dinner or was it a set up ????

you know how i feel

so for all you exchange bettors out there go nuts bet against (lay ) with both hands ( within your limits of course )

if the trainer did set him up for this i will bow down and take him out for the best night out he has ever seen

kudos to him
 

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Uptowncharlybrown owns the #7-LAY IT ON THE LINE .... the favorite.

"Hey Trotter, you just had a minor vibe on the seven ..... I try to educate you guys ..."
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race 6/ taste the fear 9-2 win

wolverhampton

Race 3/ required dream 11-1 win place

race 6/ taste of ten 7-2 win

race 7/ battle of marathon 9-2 Win and place
 

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Thanks---Followed your recommendation--shop for price.
Ran it thru Betmix-- top4(4-5-6-7) showed winner at 100%.
Added 2 & 10 to the place as they were 100% on Betmix Place.
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hey f no problem hope u cashed out great news

you must have lucked out on the deviation part of it


bet mix / yes a nice little program , but like all others as a stand alone will lose u money in long run

you have to put in lots of lots of work to just come out slightly ahead maybe 1 percent return and only would recommend for the occasional player

unless you got 10 hours a day to sift through stuff and maybe 5 years time

don't know many people with that kind of commitment

nice guys though


anyway great stuff

by any chance related to jim mazur

nice fellow never met him personally but seen him in big events

as you can tell by reading my posts if u have been here long enough

i have been hiding out a very long time before i started this posting

so stayed away from all the all the hooplaw

just wanted to give the recreational and aspiring want to be full time handicappers

a different kind of edge so they can come out ahead and hopefully build a nice little bankroll

that can work for them for the future

anyway enjoy ur winnings

yes
 

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You are correct about Betmix nice little program. I like it because of how much information you have access to. You are correct in you have to put in lots of lots of work with it.
I am not related to Jim Mazur, but do follow him on
occasion.
 

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12-10-2019, 08:55 PM

"hey f no problem hope u cashed out great news

you must have lucked out on the deviation part of it


bet mix / yes a nice little program , but like all others as a stand alone will lose u money in long run

you have to put in lots of lots of work to just come out slightly ahead maybe 1 percent return and only would recommend for the occasional player

unless you got 10 hours a day to sift through stuff and maybe 5 years time

don't know many people with that kind of commitment

nice guys though

anyway great stuff "
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I have to respectfully disagree with your opinion of BetMix.
I have attached a link with all my angle plays that have come up during the first week of this month (Dec 1st Through Dec 7th).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s_GIO0tmdnTq75DhC7nG38JTjrPle86N/view?usp=sharing

I have not left anything out, just the angles I have created that have come up on a daily basis.
They do not come up every day.

October and November were much the same. I can say without hesitation, BetMix will produce amazing results if you work at it.
It's just like anything else in life. What you put in will determine what you'll get out. The rest is easy,

I will agree with you that Dave Williams is a very nice guy and does play, successfully in competition.
In my opinion, he offers the best value and application in horse racing.
 

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first of all i am not trying to be difficult just truthful


you strike me as a fellow who has been around the game a long time


and have a grasp of what it takes to squeek out a small profit


the key to your statements are " the angles i have created" it means you probably have put in the time required


to study and work out the kinks of the program itself.


unfortunately most people don' t have that time and discipline to go through all that work.


I agree with the statement of" whatever you put into life is what you get out of it"


but we both know if u have been around long enough that horse racing is a different animal altogether.


I know guys that have been around 30 years and still can't make it work.


I am not saying you can't profit as i had 14 of my best players sift through thousands and thousans of races


and to my analysis it wasn't worth it . ( now i will say this is an unfair statement because we make a living betting)


so for the recreational player out there , of course it is worth it give it a go see what you think. i am all about sharing new ideas and concepts






but it will not make you riches and like i said partsnut if you produce those kinds of results on a weekly basis


from those angles(presented) with those kinds of( r.o.i ) all u have to do is bet $200 on each selection and not work the rest of ur life


unless you are retired and still even better put up your feet and live it up


but and a big but we know that is not the reality


your value horses will still win at a rate of 11 to 12 percent max and you will squeeze out


maybe 7 percent if ur lucky on an basis that is with the work involved


but i will give you a chance to prove it to me if u would like


private message me all your angle plays for the next 300 races from now until the end of the 300 races


and i will come back on this forum and tell everyone on here what the results were


so they can rush and get the program. as long as they put in the hard work


in my opinion (only) it did not seperate itself from the big 10 software programs out there.( and there at least 200) that i know about


especially from the underground markets


although it has some nifty features that are not seen anywhere else


but i am not against the program whatsoever and sure i recommend if u just want to play around ( and maybe looking to supplement income )


you said it best" dave williams "does play succesfully in competition but if he had to make a living at it


well that is a totally different animal. that is why he created the program in the first place .
 

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yesyes, The angle plays that I posted (10) were for one weeks play. As you say, I am retired, 80 years of age ,and do have a lot of free time. However, being as I have nothing to prove to anyone, it would be a waste of my precious spare time and would take me better part of the year to prove the point you requested. I believe I have clearly illustrated BetMix's potential . If you have used BetMix you may have not had the time or patience to make it work. I am just pointing out that you might have a misconception as to how effective BetMix is. Possibly, because you never used it or if you did, you were not giving it enough time or exploring BetMix to it's fullest potential.
I have shared my experience and opinion of an application that works for me in good faith. I have been been at this game for 65 years. I am well versed in Value,probabilities and have tried a multitude of software products and methodologies.None of them were any good with the exception of Randy Giles PaceAppraiser, Colts Neck Data and the best being BetMix. I lived in Las Vegas for 10 years and have associated with some of the smartest people in horse racing and I been known to make an occasional bet. I also play contests and won a few back in 2009 on the PaceAdvantage board.
 

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I have attached an example of an angle file I created (within 5 minutes) that singles out a horse that has a high win potential in todays first race at AQU..
I can do a full race card in less then 1/2 hour. The information you will see gives one a very good conception as to whether there is any value for this horse. The odds for this horse at the gate will determine whether or not I would bet the horse.
The point of this discussion and post is that BetMix can go back as far as 7 years in their database. It seeks and searches out the predominant factors that indicate, to a great extent, which horse would be the best contender in a given scenario or race.
Once you know what you are doing with this application, it all becomes easy, quick and very efficient. Naturally, there is never any guarantee as to where the horse will finish but long term, the numbers indicate a positive return.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FSW03iaWii3MiHfDH1soyOtsRBhGO8rY/view?usp=sharing
 

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BetMix Video

So what is Betmix? ... what does it do?

Go to Youtube or www.betmix.com and search for BetMix. You will be very busy watching tutorial videos.
Watch the videos that are within 3 or 4 years first. I think you will find them to be very interesting.
If you go to the website you can play the free race of the day. However, that just a free and small taste as to how the application works and what it has to offer. If you like factors as your user name implies, then this is for you. enjoy.:aktion033
 

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dear partsnut


forgive me as i have been swamped the last few days and to top it all off caught a nasty flu to boot
so basically out of commission


ok this thread has gone on long enough so


out of respect for your age and the fact you have given so much to the game i will be brief


- i am very gald you found something that works for you ( music to my ears )
- i am also gald you are well versed in probabilities and all the rest and know some of the smartest players as you say


- but here comes the kicker " bet mix" is just one of many programs out there that is reserved for "partime players"
only . I say this with the upmost respect . The game has changed vastly over the years and the are elements that you might
be unaware now that are so pressing and crucial that most people just don't understand


- will it squeak out a profit maybe but can you make living with it absoutely not!!!!


- and yes you forgot to read my comments above , i do not have a misconception about the program and have put it through the
ringer for thousands of races


- i will say it until the cows come home every program out there is linear and linear cannot win at this game




my main point of coming on this forum was to help players and shut down false truths that are circulating out there


I have close to 700 races posted here and have have made my viewers lots of money , something that no one has ever been able to
do on any forums because they know its impossible to stay consistent ( and i have walked them through exactly how i feel and how i would structure the bets ) and remember that the prime stuff is always so much more powerful




so like i said everyone is just lying when they say longterm the program will produce positive returns.
you have to have credibiilty to make that statement ( not that u are not making profits just that no one has been able to verify it)


so with that being said i hope you continue to have success with the program
but proof is always in the pudding . keep putting up your plays here
i will grade them and after you hit 300 i will post the results no worries


i know u say you like to wait for 3-1 and above at post and bet to win only so we will go with that criteria
i u like




anyway i don't mean to sound like a know it all just trying to help
continue posting i'm sure alot of people will value it


by the way if u can check out the post


"whos your favourite pick of the evening dated nov 30 by "bull 24"


there you will find an example of 2 horses that i gave out(only two i might add) were 16-1 and 17-1 that the software programs will never be able to find


anyway also check out your post for remmington tonight


thanks yesyes
 

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