5 Reasons Why San Francisco Wins Super Bowl

cloverleaf · Jan 28, 2020

1. Nick Bosa (12)
2. Arik Armstead (10)
3. DeForest Buckner (8.5)
4. Dee Ford (7.5)
5. Defense

As good as KC's offense has looked this season, SF's defense
has looked equally as good. SF's defensive front will be the
difference. Play Defense, control the run game and avoid turn-
overs. 49ers 28-24.

Sidenote: The underdog has covered 13 of last 18 Super Bowls.
14 out of 19 after this game.

Welcome your comments......……………………………….

WinnersareGrinners · Jan 28, 2020

i haven't finalised my pick yet but i will say this, i am fully expecting the SF front 7 (at least in the early stages) to make life pretty difficult for Mahomes, they have speed that he hasn't faced in recent times and was quite fortunate to get the "easy" path through to the SB avoiding going to Baltimore & NE.

The issue for SF is this, the front 7 is fast & will swarm Mahomes but he's just so darn elusive will it actually matter? Mahomes (like Russell Wilson) almost seem to thrive with being chased out of the pocket escaping the sack and flinging the ball 30 yards downfield for a completion....if SF want to win this game not only do they need to swarm Mahomes and make it difficult for him but they actually need to force him into some mistakes that result in turnovers...I dont think SF can win this game if both offenses play up to their abilities, i think SF needs to generate a turnover or 2.

One thing i feel is worth watching is the live betting, because if the speed of the SF front 7 can give Mahomes some trouble early and SF can go up a score of two you might get a very attractive price about betting KC--who will never be out of this game no matter how far they get behind.

cloverleaf · Jan 28, 2020

Good read WG...……….

Thanks

WinnersareGrinners · Jan 28, 2020

the other reason i was meaning to say why i think SF need a turnover or 2 to actually win is that whilst their D has been really good this season and are pretty healthy right now they have had their struggles with mobile QB's Russ, Kyler, Lamar...now they have the speed to do a better job of containing him than the Titans did but i still maintain they'll need to force him into some risky throws that they can make a play on or even force a fumble on a strip sack ect because without this i don't think they'll hold KC under 30

bodyforlife · Jan 29, 2020

Winners are Grinners said:
the other reason i was meaning to say why i think SF need a turnover or 2 to actually win is that whilst their D has been really good this season and are pretty healthy right now they have had their struggles with mobile QB's Russ, Kyler, Lamar...now they have the speed to do a better job of containing him than the Titans did but i still maintain they'll need to force him into some risky throws that they can make a play on or even force a fumble on a strip sack ect because without this i don't think they'll hold KC under 30

The Ravens scored 20 points in the game in Baltimore, and Wilson scored 21 in the recent game in Seattle, so they didn't exactly light things up.

mickj · Jan 29, 2020

bodyforlife said:
The Ravens scored 20 points in the game in Baltimore, and Wilson scored 21 in the recent game in Seattle, so they didn't exactly light things up.

Bad weather in Baltimore.

Serbone · Jan 29, 2020

SF might be able to control the game with their top running game, and their defense is good and now healthy, but the thing is, Mahomes, especially in the 2nd half, might be able to avoid the SF pass rush and make big plays as the pass rush tires.
And Garoppolo is a good QB, much better than the narrative, when he has been called upon to throw he has done well, and has top WRs & a great TE.
IMO making a BIG wager on either team is foolish, SF is more well balanced (much better: DL, RBs, better OL, LBs, KC better QB, slightly better WRs.... TEs, DBs, and coaching, "even").
I am looking at small plays on alternative lines (half SF -2.5 +125, one fourth SF -6.5 +217, one fourth SF -9.5 +318) with the hope that SF can run for 175-200 yards and dominate the TOP and make some big plays passing as well.
Definitely the worst unit on the field: KC defense
Best: tie, SF defense & KC offense.
SF offense is better than the narrative.
EDGE: SF
GL!

cloverleaf · Jan 29, 2020

San Francisco is the first Super Bowl team since the 2007 New England Patriots to rank
in the top five in both most yards gained (6,097, 4th) and fewest yards allowed (4,509,
2nd). Since 1970, San Francisco is just the 17th Super Bowl team (out of 100) to have
shown this level of strength on both sides of the ball. The sixteen previous teams were
10-6 (62.5%) in the Super Bowl.

Since 2013, every Super Bowl winner ranked in the top seven in scoring defense. SF
ranks 5th.

For what its worth...……………..quite a bit $$ to me.

Steel22 · Jan 29, 2020

Go read NYK's thread I believe he has a chart that shows that Patrick doesn't do well under pressure. I also have not made my final decision yet but I am leaning on the Niners right now. The 49ers started the season on fire on defense and they held that position for much of the first half. But they had some injuries and that was why they slipped. maybe 4 weeks or so back they got healthy and it showed on the field. I think this defense is going to be hell to deal with. Trying to judge Jimmy G after his last game is deceiving. The kid can wing it he just did or ran what the coach was putting on the field. Don't be fooled Jimmy is a very good QB with great coaching in his past and present. He will have to throw the ball to win this game no doubt about it. Still have some things to look at but the one thing that I was leaning on when the total came out at 52 was the under. Now they have ran that number up 2 extra points and I was looking at a 47 point game. Interested in other people's thoughts on the total. Seems high to me but then again it is the Super Bowl.

WinnersareGrinners · Jan 29, 2020

bodyforlife said:
The Ravens scored 20 points in the game in Baltimore, and Wilson scored 21 in the recent game in Seattle, so they didn't exactly light things up.

you have to take into account in both the game in Baltimore and the game in SF there was a lot of rain that affected offensive output of both teams

WinnersareGrinners · Jan 29, 2020

Steel22 said:
Go read NYK's thread I believe he has a chart that shows that Patrick doesn't do well under pressure. I also have not made my final decision yet but I am leaning on the Niners right now. The 49ers started the season on fire on defense and they held that position for much of the first half. But they had some injuries and that was why they slipped. maybe 4 weeks or so back they got healthy and it showed on the field. I think this defense is going to be hell to deal with. Trying to judge Jimmy G after his last game is deceiving. The kid can wing it he just did or ran what the coach was putting on the field. Don't be fooled Jimmy is a very good QB with great coaching in his past and present. He will have to throw the ball to win this game no doubt about it. Still have some things to look at but the one thing that I was leaning on when the total came out at 52 was the under. Now they have ran that number up 2 extra points and I was looking at a 47 point game. Interested in other people's thoughts on the total. Seems high to me but then again it is the Super Bowl.

yeah i read those stats, clearly a huge part of what SF will need to do is get pressure to him by rushing 4 although he's less than 50% completion against the blitz this post season as well so they'll bring the extra at times no doubt....he still doesn't throw a lot of picks in these situations though which has surprised me ever since he's been on the scene--he makes some throws a lot like Brett Favre but Favre would always throw his share of picks....the thing in SF favour is their front 7 is far better equipped to deal with Mahomes than Hou or Ten were, as mentioned above i still feel SF needs a turnover or 2 to win the game

cloverleaf · Jan 29, 2020

Steel22 said:
Go read NYK's thread I believe he has a chart that shows that Patrick doesn't do well under pressure. I also have not made my final decision yet but I am leaning on the Niners right now. The 49ers started the season on fire on defense and they held that position for much of the first half. But they had some injuries and that was why they slipped. maybe 4 weeks or so back they got healthy and it showed on the field. I think this defense is going to be hell to deal with. Trying to judge Jimmy G after his last game is deceiving. The kid can wing it he just did or ran what the coach was putting on the field. Don't be fooled Jimmy is a very good QB with great coaching in his past and present. He will have to throw the ball to win this game no doubt about it. Still have some things to look at but the one thing that I was leaning on when the total came out at 52 was the under. Now they have ran that number up 2 extra points and I was looking at a 47 point game. Interested in other people's thoughts on the total. Seems high to me but then again it is the Super Bowl.

Steel, I've played the Under. If the Niners can run the ball, make first downs and keep KC's offense off the field...this game
will go under. A big part of SF's game plan will be to run the ball successfully and pass only when necessary. The big elephant
in the room is can the offense do that. I'm looking for a good, tight game. (28-24) Go Niners!

WinnersareGrinners · Jan 29, 2020

Serbone said:
SF might be able to control the game with their top running game, and their defense is good and now healthy, but the thing is, Mahomes, especially in the 2nd half, might be able to avoid the SF pass rush and make big plays as the pass rush tires.
And Garoppolo is a good QB, much better than the narrative, when he has been called upon to throw he has done well, and has top WRs & a great TE.
IMO making a BIG wager on either team is foolish, SF is more well balanced (much better: DL, RBs, better OL, LBs, KC better QB, slightly better WRs.... TEs, DBs, and coaching, "even").
I am looking at small plays on alternative lines (half SF -2.5 +125, one fourth SF -6.5 +217, one fourth SF -9.5 +318) with the hope that SF can run for 175-200 yards and dominate the TOP and make some big plays passing as well.
Definitely the worst unit on the field: KC defense
Best: tie, SF defense & KC offense.
SF offense is better than the narrative.
EDGE: SF
GL!

a lot of how i feel about the game encapsulated in this above and the smartest comment is not making this a huge wager game either way....I mean you don't have a huge edge either way IMO in the way we had in the conference games.

I have a 49ers 25/1 futures so have hedged some but left more profit on the 49ers result so i am hoping they win...as mentioned by Serbone i think Jimmy G will get his chances in this game, he made the big throws against NO and has a really smart coach to put him in a position to succeed--i can see him putting up bigger numbers than most anticipate.

My concern for SF all along has been getting pressure on Mahomes but then being able to contain him, i think they'll swarm him early the big question will be can they maintain this for an entire game or will they tire....certainly forcing a turnover or 2 and being able to control TOP via effective running would assist this endeavor.

I like SF to win the first qtr, i think the speed of the front 7 will take some time for Mahomes to adjust to (KC's 2nd qtr record this season has been outstanding)

WinnersareGrinners · Jan 29, 2020

cloverleaf said:
San Francisco is the first Super Bowl team since the 2007 New England Patriots to rank
in the top five in both most yards gained (6,097, 4th) and fewest yards allowed (4,509,
2nd). Since 1970, San Francisco is just the 17th Super Bowl team (out of 100) to have
shown this level of strength on both sides of the ball. The sixteen previous teams were
10-6 (62.5%) in the Super Bowl.

Since 2013, every Super Bowl winner ranked in the top seven in scoring defense. SF
ranks 5th.

For what its worth...……………..quite a bit $$ to me.

for what it's worth, i hope you're right and i hope the 49ers can do it !

WinnersareGrinners · Jan 29, 2020

cloverleaf said:
Steel, I've played the Under. If the Niners can run the ball, make first downs and keep KC's offense off the field...this game
will go under. A big part of SF's game plan will be to run the ball successfully and pass only when necessary. The big elephant
in the room is can the offense do that. I'm looking for a good, tight game. (28-24) Go Niners!

not saying it won't go under but i actually think Shannahan will be a bit more bold with his game plan than you expect, everyone knows SF wants to just run it right....but with play action they're going to have some amazing opportunities on 1st and 2nd down, i don't think he will be frightened to take his shots.

PeePee · Jan 30, 2020

Winners are Grinners said:
not saying it won't go under but i actually think Shannahan will be a bit more bold with his game plan than you expect, everyone knows SF wants to just run it right....but with play action they're going to have some amazing opportunities on 1st and 2nd down, i don't think he will be frightened to take his shots.

Kyle Shannahan will not play to preserve the lead, not after last SB loss "28-3". It evident, and admittedly by Kyle, last game vs Packers once the lead cut to 14. For this game to stay under 49ers D must hold Chief in the 20-24 range. The most impressive thing about 49ers offense this season is they can play any style vs given opponent, shootouts or control the clocks

busterhyman · Jan 30, 2020

cloverleaf said:
1. Nick Bosa (12)
2. Arik Armstead (10)
3. DeForest Buckner (8.5)
4. Dee Ford (7.5)
5. Defense

As good as KC's offense has looked this season, SF's defense
has looked equally as good. SF's defensive front will be the
difference. Play Defense, control the run game and avoid turn-
overs. 49ers 28-24.

Sidenote: The underdog has covered 13 of last 18 Super Bowls.
14 out of 19 after this game.

Welcome your comments......……………………………….

good reasons 2 bet...mahomes over on rushing yards

JasonN · Jan 30, 2020

I only have 1 reason why 49er will win super bowl

https://youtu.be/D0l9j_am41s

bodyforlife · Feb 1, 2020

mickj said:
Bad weather in Baltimore.

Winners are Grinners said:
you have to take into account in both the game in Baltimore and the game in SF there was a lot of rain that affected offensive output of both teams

I don't have a crystal ball....do you guys? And if you do, why don't you just tell everyone the exact score of the game so we can unload on that prop and win a ton of money.

I responded back to the original comment. The scoreboard doesn't reflect what you claim in the games mentioned.