[FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]My fear is Trump is starting to become a politician. He's starting to make decisions
that are wishy-washy instead of decisive and it's hurting the economy.
I liked him better when he was a "my way or the highway" type of guy.[/FONT]
He's in a box imo. Don't think he can have this get this country back to work discussion on his own. Needs some help to show that the cure will be worse than the virus.. We have all of these scientists and doctors telling us everything we need to know about this virus , more than we need to know actually , but nothing about the faltering economy and where it could be in a month , 3 months , or longer.
No one knows that any more than they know what the future (in months & years) death toll of this virus will be, with or without the extreme measures that are being taken. Maybe check & see what Nostradamus, fortune tellers & their cousins the economists have to say ; jk.
If you disagree with the measures being taken, what exactly would you have done? Sacrifice lives? How do you know your alternate plan would have worked out any better for the economy in the long term than the expert's advice that is being followed? Please provide in detail (1000 words or more) what you would have done differently, or would do from this point onward?
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Set travel bans and restrictions where they apply to limiting the virus from spreading
I would have set a quarantine stay at home for older people and people with health issues.. that's the two groups that are significantly at risk.
If your sick stay home.. and away from others.
A health alert advisory
Everyone else carry on with their lives.. If you get sick or are coming down with identified symptoms , go home , see a doctor if needed.
been my take from the beginning..
At this point Trump is boxed in with having Fauci and others putting him there.
He can't change tack now otherwise all the morons who watch tv will roast him and there goes his election bid
Either way even if things were to reopen tomorrow the economy is done for at least a year maybe two.
People are scared, no one is going to spend money.
Stores and restaurants have already started announcing they are not reopening.
He can't change tack now otherwise all the morons who watch tv will roast him and there goes his election bid
Either way even if things were to reopen tomorrow the economy is done for at least a year maybe two.
People are scared, no one is going to spend money.
Stores and restaurants have already started announcing they are not reopening.
Who knows more about an economy than he does? Certainly not a bunch of academic knobs who
never ran a business, met a payroll or been as successful as he has.
Look at what inherited and then look at where we were before this black swan.
By the time he forms an economic group of know it alls to fuck around for months
discussing what should be done we'll all be eating out of dumpsters.
It's nearing the time to shit or get off the pot.
He wasn't eleted to be a trough feeder like all of Congress are, he was elected to lead
and part of leading is making tough decisions.
I feel confident he'll make the right decisions I just hope he doesn't wait to long.
If it were me I'd start opening the country back up like yesterday.
I still think it was an overreaction by everyone.
I do not see anything changing, I think governors will be shutting their states down until June.
By then many small businesses will have shut their doors, money or not from the government
The problem is not money now to keep paying bills, it is for the 6, 8, 12 months after things reopen
the government is not giving money out to run your business after this. Many are not going to reopen due to this fact
they can see the writing on the wall as they do not have money to run for the months after with no one spending money
Already have friends with businesses who have work orders cancelled, not postponed. Hundreds of thousands of dollars of work gone
just like that, they will have to get rid of workers they have since they have lost work moving forward.
I am talking about construction and trades. Plumber, electrician, etc. Lots of people are not going to build a house, add an extension, upgrade, etc
The economy is done until at least next summer if not longer. If most people go back to work and things are close to where they were before
then they will start spending sooner, if lots of people lose their jobs, which is what I think is going to happen we are fucked!!!
By then many small businesses will have shut their doors, money or not from the government
The problem is not money now to keep paying bills, it is for the 6, 8, 12 months after things reopen
the government is not giving money out to run your business after this. Many are not going to reopen due to this fact
they can see the writing on the wall as they do not have money to run for the months after with no one spending money
Already have friends with businesses who have work orders cancelled, not postponed. Hundreds of thousands of dollars of work gone
just like that, they will have to get rid of workers they have since they have lost work moving forward.
I am talking about construction and trades. Plumber, electrician, etc. Lots of people are not going to build a house, add an extension, upgrade, etc
The economy is done until at least next summer if not longer. If most people go back to work and things are close to where they were before
then they will start spending sooner, if lots of people lose their jobs, which is what I think is going to happen we are fucked!!!
Any models out there yet on the economic ramifications of the shutdown ?
The economic crisis is the bigger one folks.. 22 million go on unemployment and counting.. Thousands and thousands of businesses destroyed.. Lives turned upside down.. You would think we would see models of alot bigger crisis..
The economic crisis is the bigger one folks.. 22 million go on unemployment and counting.. Thousands and thousands of businesses destroyed.. Lives turned upside down.. You would think we would see models of alot bigger crisis..
Yes good idea......I would also like to see a graph of influenza cases so far this year, the sick & people that died from it, also by each city/state.....locally they could do counties as well.
The economic ramifications of this pandemic will be felt for a very long time, even if the lockdowns open up & people go back to work......at least the ones that still have a job.
Here's a chart from the U.K. that does not look good:
Lockdown will cost a QUARTER of UK jobs as 6.5 MILLION positions are to be axed with the hospitality industry set to be crippled by coronavirus crisis, research says
Research comes from Institute for Social and Economic Research at Essex Uni
It says 6.5million jobs equates to around a quarter of Britain's total occupations
Accommodation and food services are to suffer the worst rate of cuts, 1.3million
Government was warned support for businesses must come faster during crisis
By James Gant For Mailonline
Published: 07:43 EDT, 19 April 2020 | Updated: 11:26 EDT, 19 April 2020
Britain's coronavirus lockdown will take more than 6.5million jobs out of the economy, according to estimates contained in a new study.
Research by the Institute for Social and Economic Research at the University of Essex says this equates to around a quarter of the UK's total jobs, with more than half the positions in certain sectors to be lost.
It comes as the Government was warned support for businesses during the coronavirus pandemic must come faster if people's livelihoods are to be saved.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ARTER-UK-jobs-6-5-MILLION-positions-axed.html
Lockdown will cost a QUARTER of UK jobs as 6.5 MILLION positions are to be axed with the hospitality industry set to be crippled by coronavirus crisis, research says
Research comes from Institute for Social and Economic Research at Essex Uni
It says 6.5million jobs equates to around a quarter of Britain's total occupations
Accommodation and food services are to suffer the worst rate of cuts, 1.3million
Government was warned support for businesses must come faster during crisis
By James Gant For Mailonline
Published: 07:43 EDT, 19 April 2020 | Updated: 11:26 EDT, 19 April 2020
Britain's coronavirus lockdown will take more than 6.5million jobs out of the economy, according to estimates contained in a new study.
Research by the Institute for Social and Economic Research at the University of Essex says this equates to around a quarter of the UK's total jobs, with more than half the positions in certain sectors to be lost.
It comes as the Government was warned support for businesses during the coronavirus pandemic must come faster if people's livelihoods are to be saved.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ARTER-UK-jobs-6-5-MILLION-positions-axed.html
a chap at another forum has done a full 180. Use to be non-stop positve poster, coming across as enlightened. Shared his personal story as a landed immigrant from Eastern Europe and a proud American. Enjoy reading his posts. When this pandemic started he was still himself; constant calmness, positive..kinda like-- it's time to reflect, enjoy our time off, live a simpler life, etc etc. The guy has done a full 180- everything he posts now is negative. He just let go this classic:
'Viruses are smarter than humans. They only destroy 0.1% of their livelihood. We destroyed 100% of ours. Devolution!'
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whenver happened to enjoy the time off shit? .....this guy may snap
'Viruses are smarter than humans. They only destroy 0.1% of their livelihood. We destroyed 100% of ours. Devolution!'
@)
whenver happened to enjoy the time off shit? .....this guy may snap
