Economist: ‘Depression-magnitude’ job losses coming

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[FONT=&quot]The coronavirus outbreak, or COVID-19, is pushing the U.S. economy further into historic territory.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The economy saw an unprecedented 6.648 million people applying for unemployment claims for the week ending March 28 when initial jobless claims came out on Thursday. On Friday the March jobs reports showed that the economy shed 701,000 jobs when economists were expecting a decline of 100,000.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“The monthly payroll jobs report has been upstaged by the last two weeks of unemployment claims applications totaling nearly ten million,” Chris Rupkey, MUFG managing director and chief financial economist, wrote in a note on Friday. “The 701 thousand lost payroll jobs is just a down payment on the immense losses that are already here and have yet to be counted. What is next month's figure going to be? Down 9 million? Down 15 million... The country is literally shutting down.”

“The month of April will have the first depression-magnitude job losses the country has seen since the 1930s,” Rupkey wrote. “The unemployment rate moved up from 3.5% in February to 4.4% in March, but the labor market could easily become depression-like very quickly where one out of four of your neighbors is no longer getting a paycheck. Stay tuned. The worst is yet to come

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[FONT=&quot]The unemployment numbers for the week ending March 21 saw 3.307 million claims were filed before this week’s claims doubled that. And prior to the coronavirus-induced economic shock, the previous record was 695,000 claims filed the week that ended October 2, 1982. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Net, net, job layoffs are soaring faster than any time in recorded history,” Rupkey previously wrote in a note on Thursday morning. “This looks bad and it is bad. The worst jobless claims in U.S. history means the economy has fallen into the abyss.

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[h=2]‘American workers have nowhere to hide’[/h][FONT=&quot]The jobless claims number is likely to increase further in the coming weeks, according to Rupkey.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“We knew that massive job losses were coming because of reports that many workers were unable to file a claim for benefits even after waiting on line for hours,” he wrote. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]This is perhaps an indication that U.S. economy has “skipped recession and has already moved deep into the depression zone,” he added. “American workers have nowhere to hide as the job layoffs are going to go global as world trade collapses.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Economists, though not fully prepared for the extent of the unemployment claims figures as evidenced by all major consensus estimates being lower than the latest jobless claims, were at least mentally prepared for whatever is in store in the upcoming weeks and months.

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[FONT=&quot]“Economic data in the near future will be not just bad, but unrecognizable,” Credit Suisse economists led by James Sweeney wrote last week. “Anomalies will be ubiquitous and old statistical relationships within economic data or between market and macro data might not always hold... There is no blueprint for the current shock, and uncertainty about the extent of contagion and the economic consequences is overwhelming.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Economists at Goldman Sachs warned that U.S. GDP would collapse 34% in Q2, which would be more than triple the record 10% drop seen in 1958.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In their latest note, Goldman analysts explained that “the anecdotal evidence and the sky-high jobless claims numbers show an even bigger output and (especially) labor market collapse than we had anticipated. This not only means deeper negatives in the very near term but also raises the specter of more adverse second-round effects on income and spending a bit further down the road.”


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I can see the 1930's all over again, followed by mid- 1970's style inflation, topped off by WW3, the really big one !

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Everyone has been told not to go to work - for the vast majority and a consumer based economy that means a lot of unemployment

However Sars and Mers ended - we need that shit to occur soon than later
 

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No matter how many deaths we end up with or lives saved , shutting down the economy will be the biggest mistake we've ever made
 

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Everyone has been told not to go to work - for the vast majority and a consumer based economy that means a lot of unemployment

However Sars and Mers ended - we need that shit to occur soon than later
Maybe rain will kill it.
 

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Everyone has been told not to go to work - for the vast majority and a consumer based economy that means a lot of unemployment

However Sars and Mers ended - we need that shit to occur soon than later

Ironically, they either haven't updated their guidelines or are clueless. It appears (at least in Texas), you still have to show you have applied for a job every 3 weeks to maintain your unemployment status. And yet if there's not a job with an essential business (few and far between) or if you're just a germ-a-phobe, how do you do that?
 

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Number of people who could lose health care access due to getting fired:

Australia: 0
Belgium: 0
Canada: 0
Chile: 0
Denmark: 0
Finland: 0
France: 0
Germany: 0
Greece: 0
Hungary: 0
Italy: 0
Japan: 0
New Zealand: 0
Norway: 0
Portugal: 0
S Korea: 0
Spain: 0
Sweden: 0
Turkey: 0
UK: 0

USA: 160,000,000
 

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with the amount of stimulus being pumped into this were going to end up with a universal healthcare system across the board . Only the wealthiest are going to have there on call private dr. Service. Months of waiting and shit coverage is our destiny. We might already be there Obama completely ruined the free market on health care. Any one that had real blue cross doesn’t have it anymore . It don’t matter who’s president we live in a banana republic get use to waiting the new norm similar to the military hurry up and wait.
 

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that's a really smart economist :)
 

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Number of people who could lose health care access due to getting fired:

Australia: 0
Belgium: 0
Canada: 0
Chile: 0
Denmark: 0
Finland: 0
France: 0
Germany: 0
Greece: 0
Hungary: 0
Italy: 0
Japan: 0
New Zealand: 0
Norway: 0
Portugal: 0
S Korea: 0
Spain: 0
Sweden: 0
Turkey: 0
UK: 0

USA: 160,000,000

care to make a wager that our emperor does not let this happen?
 

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all the skeerd lefties that want the lockdown to go through 2022 are going to have a wake up call in about 3 mths. gonna be alot of people on them knees
 

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care to make a wager that our emperor does not let this happen?

I would never wager on such a grim topic

I do give you a hat tip for glossing trump as he himself does in the privacy of his own FTD dome
 

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Number of people who could lose health care access due to getting fired:

Australia: 0
Belgium: 0
Canada: 0
Chile: 0
Denmark: 0
Finland: 0
France: 0
Germany: 0
Greece: 0
Hungary: 0
Italy: 0
Japan: 0
New Zealand: 0
Norway: 0
Portugal: 0
S Korea: 0
Spain: 0
Sweden: 0
Turkey: 0
UK: 0

USA: 160,000,000

I thought you assholes fixed this? What do you know about healthcare anyhow? How to beat the system for legal marijuana?

Like every other prediction of yours, this too will be stuck up your ass

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all the skeerd lefties that want the lockdown to go through 2022 are going to have a wake up call in about 3 mths. gonna be alot of people on them knees

Yeah but that's a long time - who knows how that affects the economy long term - who knows if the virus just vanishes or lingers - can't see a ton of people ready to pack the malls, restaurants or sporting venues for a decent amount of time after the virus is gone - but yeah, 25% of the country wants us all infected with no jobs - they can publicly tell u otherwise but i can assure u what the Pelosi's wish in the hearts
 

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I thought you assholes fixed this? What do you know about healthcare anyhow? How to beat the system for legal marijuana?

Like every other prediction of yours, this too will be stuck up your ass

At the end of the day, you're just another Mango

Yeah, is that some shit? they implement the system - Trump vehemently opposes the system - the dam breaks - and then they tell you it's Trumps faults - and Barman (while a little loony) is not an idiot at all - and he still typed this shit up - Trump has them talking in their sleep
 

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Yeah but that's a long time - who knows how that affects the economy long term - who knows if the virus just vanishes or lingers - can't see a ton of people ready to pack the malls, restaurants or sporting venues for a decent amount of time after the virus is gone - but yeah, 25% of the country wants us all infected with no jobs - they can publicly tell u otherwise but i can assure u what the Pelosi's wish in the hearts

do you see the credit markets? they dwarf the stock mkt and they are toast.
our economy is built on smoke...millions of service jobs are not coming back....for years. no one will be spending. millions of white collar jobs will be toast in 6 mths. there is no happy ending at this point.
 

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We should cut mass migration drastically as a response to this. No need to flood the country with more people if we have scarcity of work. If you want a political angle, Trump could make major headway here. Polls show people have wanted this for awhile, well now is a good time to start implementing.

Creative destruction dictates jobs go away, new jobs form, etc...But it isn't a scientific law and a lot of those jobs lost are never coming back. Not to mention rise of automation and the slow bleed that causes...

@Falls hacked my account to see what I was gonna type and put a similar thought 10 seconds before me, damn
 

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