Only Germany and South Korea are in our league - France, Spain, Italy, the UK, Belgium, Netherlands - all hovering near 10% or higher while we're near 3% - S. Korea is used to this shit and probably went into isolation immediately - plus, they were quick to the cloroquinine thing like China - I'm guessing we got hit after all these countries and we saw their cloroquine routine - there is nothing else that makes sense that we are living and they are dying - it is well documented that Americans have high obesity rates, hypertension and diabetes because of our super sized diets
Yeah, about 3% - the rest of the world is near 10% or higher - we obviously can't stop the spread because that's up to the citizens to do - though California has done a great job at keeping people home - the only thing that makes sense is that we got hit last and we've seen what worked in other countries
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I don’t get how you can take the angle of downplaying it then and calling it media hysteria when it was at 0. And claim flu kills 35K a year on average.
And then come back and start crying that they are adding too many deaths to the coronavirus list. You don’t see the flaw in your guys perspective with that? Very contradicting and looking for a way out.
But...this is what the virus does. If you are on your death bed....it will kill you. If you have one foot in the grave with pre-existing health issues...it will put you on your death bed. This is what it does. You can’t have something like this linger and do nothing. It affects people differently and you don’t know how they will react to it. And the last thing we want to do is put people to that test by living normal life. I don’t. I know my pops wouldn’t make it through this if he got it. Yes this will cause financial ruin. But you can’t bring back the dead. And if it means 10 extra years for those people, that’s well worth a dismantled economy for the time being.
The government is as greedy as it gets. Maybe should’ve thought about the health in this country a little bit more instead marketing fast food everywhere and cigarettes and alcohol. Fattening them pockets and in return these people get diseases which put them in the hospital hit with medical bills for poor low income people. Then maybe our country wouldn’t be in a panic if we didn’t lure Americans into those things for profit.
But that’s why the smart people here are saying this could get very bad in the south. Combo that with it’s a lot of trump supporters who don’t believe this shit is real probably still. Yikes.
Italy got hit hard because they love to eat, smoke and they have an older population. Plus very close knit family oriented
And then come back and start crying that they are adding too many deaths to the coronavirus list. You don’t see the flaw in your guys perspective with that? Very contradicting and looking for a way out.
But...this is what the virus does. If you are on your death bed....it will kill you. If you have one foot in the grave with pre-existing health issues...it will put you on your death bed. This is what it does. You can’t have something like this linger and do nothing. It affects people differently and you don’t know how they will react to it. And the last thing we want to do is put people to that test by living normal life. I don’t. I know my pops wouldn’t make it through this if he got it. Yes this will cause financial ruin. But you can’t bring back the dead. And if it means 10 extra years for those people, that’s well worth a dismantled economy for the time being.
The government is as greedy as it gets. Maybe should’ve thought about the health in this country a little bit more instead marketing fast food everywhere and cigarettes and alcohol. Fattening them pockets and in return these people get diseases which put them in the hospital hit with medical bills for poor low income people. Then maybe our country wouldn’t be in a panic if we didn’t lure Americans into those things for profit.
But that’s why the smart people here are saying this could get very bad in the south. Combo that with it’s a lot of trump supporters who don’t believe this shit is real probably still. Yikes.
Italy got hit hard because they love to eat, smoke and they have an older population. Plus very close knit family oriented
And clearly less than that if we were able to test accurately and not just lump other causes of deaths into the figure. Even at a time in which people contracting the disease should be peaking, we still have only 1 in roughly 11,000 people. And deaths won't be remotely close to the 1.2-2.2 million (and definitely not what the morons with their "exponential 14 million were predicting).
"'Utterly unreliable': The mystery behind the true COVID-19 death rate
The proportion of people who have died from the disease varies strikingly from country to country. But why?
The figure at the root of so much global angst about coronavirus is currently 4.7 per cent.
That is the proportion of people, as of Sunday afternoon, who have died after being diagnosed with the virus — 32,137 out of the 685,623 who have tested positive for Covid-19 around the world.
It compares with a death rate of around 0.1 per cent for seasonal flu and 0.2 per cent for pneumonia in high-income countries. However, 4.7 per cent is not only changeable but frustratingly unreliable, both for governments seeking to calibrate their policy response and for citizens trying to gauge how much they should worry."
continued at length at:
https://nationalpost.com/news/world...e-mystery-behind-the-true-covid-19-death-rate
The proportion of people who have died from the disease varies strikingly from country to country. But why?
The figure at the root of so much global angst about coronavirus is currently 4.7 per cent.
That is the proportion of people, as of Sunday afternoon, who have died after being diagnosed with the virus — 32,137 out of the 685,623 who have tested positive for Covid-19 around the world.
It compares with a death rate of around 0.1 per cent for seasonal flu and 0.2 per cent for pneumonia in high-income countries. However, 4.7 per cent is not only changeable but frustratingly unreliable, both for governments seeking to calibrate their policy response and for citizens trying to gauge how much they should worry."
continued at length at:
https://nationalpost.com/news/world...e-mystery-behind-the-true-covid-19-death-rate
I think you’re confused by the numbers of doing nothing compared to having shutdown restrictions in place. Millions would be dead no question if we did nothing. No fucking question. That’s clear as day.
People really still don’t understand. It’s crazy.
Why do you think we had no shutdown restrictions in place for the swine flu in 2009 when 12K died in the US when Obama was in office? Why do you think we had none? Do you know why?
This is word for word from the horses mouth.
Once we do reach over 40K deaths.....the narrative is going to be.....”yeah but they are including people who were going to die anyway. They are in their hospice and waiting to die and they catch corona and they say corona killed them.”
But we don’t do that when we talk about the Spanish flu, do we? Or the annual flu. Do we? When the annual flu kills someone in hospice, are you guys complaining and excluding that too?
No, we don’t. You guys need to stop with this whacko right wing propaganda shit. I know you guys are all upset right now. I am too. I want to go to Stanford grille and get a bomb ass meal. But instead I have to settle for cava.
One of women at work keeps her nursing certification active (but hasn't been a practicing nurse for years). When this thing started, she was preaching to everyone at how you couldn't go outside, how 14 million people were going to die, and there wouldn't be nearly enough health care workers to cover the catastrophe (not to mention before every comment, she would say "as a nurse"as though that gave her some credibility... LOL). Me and another co-worker called her out on some of her BS claims. After throwing some Ad Hominems at us, she lost it and went into a political rant about the President (which I kind of suspected was the case all along). Since that stupid rant, we find that thousand of health care workers have been furloughed and the estimates aren't remotely close. And I'm sure when we go back to work she'll try to save face by saying we saved 14 million people by staying at home. She must have a 10 gallon jug of kool-aid at home (something I don't drink). Biggest bunch of BS ever and that became quite apparent early in this game.
