No vaccine or cure for ANY of the coronoviruses that have been/are in existence?

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This present novel corono is unlike previous ones. They didn't shutdown the world while having a high rate of infection & deaths. A vaccine may never come & there is still much that isn't known about COVID-19.

"Since the mid 60's the human coronaviruses (HCoV), represented by HCoV-OC43 and HCoV-229E, were generally considered relatively harmless viruses. This status changed dramatically with the emergence of SARS-CoV in 2002/2003."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17346212

https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/coronaviruses-therapeutics-vaccines

"There are yet to be vaccines or antiviral drugs to prevent or treat human coronavirus infections."
 
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"There are many challenges with this new virus that make it extremely challenging and warranting of the current drastic world wide efforts. One of the main ones being that its novel with no understanding of what the immunity will be like.

My point in that sentence is that while mutations may be yet another challenge amonst the many others posed by this virus, historically these types of viruses mutate less. Of course we dont know that for sure and that does not mean we should downplay it. The fact that the virus surface is covered by unique glycans (sugars) makes it even a harder target for vaccines than what we are used to."
 
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No cures for serious illnesses because we are too busy studying & creating new scientific technologies on better boob jobs, face-lifts, and crap that isn't important.
 

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No cures for serious illnesses because we are too busy studying & creating new scientific technologies on better boob jobs, face-lifts, and crap that isn't important.
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Hache you got a point...lol
 
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"[h=1]Scientists Found an Isolated Coronavirus Mutation in India That Could Threaten Vaccine Development"[/h]
Thu, 04/16/2020 - 09:45

The prospect that SARS-CoV-2, the "novel" coronavirus responsible for causing the illness COVID-19, might be mutating and evolving as it spreads across the globe has been such a terrifying prospect for the scientific community, that medical experts like Dr. Anthony Fauci seem to avoid even engaging on the topic.



Asked about the possibility of viral mutation during one of the White House's inaugural task force press briefings, Dr. Fauci assured the public that scientists have found "no evidence" of any concerning mutations, though the prospect that a mutated version of the virus might return during next year's flu season has kept some virologists up at night with nightmares about needing to start the vaccine clock from zero.

The problem is that vaccines often aren't as effective against viruses that mutate, like the flu does every season (that's why you need to keep getting that flu shot year after year). And now, a new scientific paper that - like most of the coronavirus research being cited in the press - has yet to be peer reviewed claims to have identified a mutation in a sample of the virus collected in India that could create serious problems for researchers working on a vaccine.


Monitoring the mutation dynamics of SARS-CoV-2 is critical for the development of effective approaches to contain the 21 pathogen. By analyzing 106 SARS-CoV-2 and 39 SARS genome sequences, we provided direct genetic evidence that 22 SARS-CoV-2 has a much lower mutation rate than SARS. Minimum Evolution phylogeny analysis revealed the putative original status of SARS-CoV-2 and the early-stage spread history. The discrepant phylogenies for the spike protein and it receptor binding domain proved a previously reported structural rearrangement prior to the emergence of SARS-CoV-2. Despite that, we found the spike glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2 is particularly more conserved, we identified a mutation that leads to weaker receptor binding capability, which concerns a SARS-CoV-2 sample collected on 27th January 2020 from India. This represents the first report of a significant SARS-CoV-2 mutant, and raises the alarm that the ongoing vaccine Development may become futile in future epidemic if more mutations were identified.

The ominous discovery underscores how the virus's destructive potential will likely be tied to the vagaries of viral evolution.

Fortunately, the team appeared to confirm an earlier finding by a team of researchers in Italy that the virus "has a much lower mutation rate and genetic diversity" than SARS, which means that a vaccine will likely be able to treat wide swaths of people before becoming ineffective as the virus changes and evolves.


However, this new finding shows that it's not just the speed of the mutation that matters, but the specific nature of the mutations, when scientists are developing a vaccine.

Experts say that a vaccine could take up to 2 years to develop, and some city officials have warned that life likely won't return completely back to normal until a vaccine is ready for mass production. But a mutation could throw a wrench in this process, transforming the process of developing a workable vaccine into a "cat and mouse" game - or at the very least lengthen the time it takes for the initial vaccine to be developed.

https://www.sciencetimes.com/articl...tation-india-threaten-vaccine-development.htm
 
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This shit , agenda push is done

To update you once a heart attack drug guy had thousands at his funeral , thousands and thousands could riot and protests, blacks didn’t have to wear masks in Oregon, and Cal gov kept his winery open while everyone could not go to church, go to a park , etc

It became bullshit , so stop the bumps and troll and the bullshit , it’s over , wake up, it’s an agenda , be a solution, not the problem u so choose to be
 
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We STILL can't cure the common cold (a coronavirus,) and flu vaccines are, at best, 50% effective. But we're going to get an effective vaccine for Covid? You have to be a special kind of stupid to believe that. I have refused flu shots my entire life and anyone who thinks they're injecting me with a Covid vaccine is sadly mistaken. My wife is a surgeon and is required to get flu shots every year. In March, she got flu. I slept next to her every night she was sick and I never got it.
 
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bilbal said:
We STILL can't cure the common cold (a coronavirus,) and flu vaccines are, at best, 50% effective. But we're going to get an effective vaccine for Covid? You have to be a special kind of stupid to believe that.
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Do you think a 50% effective flu vaccine is not effective? It is. And it has been stated that a C-19 vaccine will have to be at least 50% effective & hopefully much higher than that, like 75%, for example.

With over 175 C-19 vaccines being created & or tested, the chances of success are much better than if there were only a handful of efforts being made. How many independent efforts to create a flu vaccine are attempted per year? My guess is way less than 175+.

BTW, Russia has already approved a C-19 vaccine for use. And other countries (USA, UK, etc) are also considering fast tracking a vaccine.

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I have refused flu shots my entire life and anyone who thinks they're injecting me with a Covid vaccine is sadly mistaken. My wife is a surgeon and is required to get flu shots every year. In March, she got flu. I slept next to her every night she was sick and I never got it.
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What relevance does that sea story have to anything. I DFKed BBed & recieved BBBJs from dozens of street walker crack/heroin hos & never got any disease or problem. As have others. So what?
 
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bilbal said:
We STILL can't cure the common cold (a coronavirus,) and flu vaccines are, at best, 50% effective. But we're going to get an effective vaccine for Covid? You have to be a special kind of stupid to believe that. I have refused flu shots my entire life and anyone who thinks they're injecting me with a Covid vaccine is sadly mistaken. My wife is a surgeon and is required to get flu shots every year. In March, she got flu. I slept next to her every night she was sick and I never got it.
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What kind of surgeon is she? Ortho?
 

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bilbal said:
We STILL can't cure the common cold (a coronavirus,) and flu vaccines are, at best, 50% effective. But we're going to get an effective vaccine for Covid? You have to be a special kind of stupid to believe that. I have refused flu shots my entire life and anyone who thinks they're injecting me with a Covid vaccine is sadly mistaken. My wife is a surgeon and is required to get flu shots every year. In March, she got flu. I slept next to her every night she was sick and I never got it.
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Yep. Vaccines are an agenda. A bad one

especially with 6%. Lol
 

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"[FONT=&quot]Many teams are working on a COVID-19 vaccine using technologies that have been in development for decades, but have never yet been approved for wide-scale human use, such as DNA, RNA, and viral-vector vaccines. Many of those candidates are considered very promising, garnering [/FONT]huge amounts of funding and billions of preorders from some countries[FONT=&quot].[/FONT]
 
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