Inconvenient Truth about the supposed racism of cops (WSJ article)

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I'm personally not a big fan of cops...any job you basically can't get fired from and you only "earn" raises and promotions because of years of service and union agreements does not lend itself to having people perform their job well. Then top it off with the ridiculous Qualified Immunity ruling that's been our standard for nearly 40 years and these guys walk around with impunity. They are woefully unprepared, carry around nasty attitudes, and believe the badge gives them freedom to harass. (yes I'm generalizing)

This Wall St Journal article from yesterday is being labeled as insensitive but sometimes facts and stats hurt...in fact, nearly everytime a Leftist pushes a social agenda item it can be taken apart with very little research.

Crazy that a cop is nearly 20x more likely to be killed by a black man than an unarmed black man getting killed by a cop

Read it at https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883?mod=djemalertNEWS


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In 2019 police officers fatally shot 1,004 people, most of whom were armed or otherwise dangerous. African-Americans were about a quarter of those killed by cops last year (235), a ratio that has remained stable since 2015. That share of black victims is less than what the black crime rate would predict, since police shootings are a function of how often officers encounter armed and violent suspects. In 2018, the latest year for which such data have been published, African-Americans made up 53% of known homicide offenders in the U.S. and commit about 60% of robberies, though they are 13% of the population.


The police fatally shot nine unarmed blacks and 19 unarmed whites in 2019, according to a Washington Post database, down from 38 and 32, respectively, in 2015. The Post defines “unarmed” broadly to include such cases as a suspect in Newark, N.J., who had a loaded handgun in his car during a police chase. In 2018 there were 7,407 black homicide victims. Assuming a comparable number of victims last year, those nine unarmed black victims of police shootings represent 0.1% of all African-Americans killed in 2019. By contrast, a police officer is 18½ times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.
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The latest in a series of studies undercutting the claim of systemic police bias was published in August 2019 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The researchers found that the more frequently officers encounter violent suspects from any given racial group, the greater the chance that a member of that group will be fatally shot by a police officer. There is “no significant evidence of antiblack disparity in the likelihood of being fatally shot by police,” they concluded.



The Minneapolis officers who arrested George Floyd must be held accountable for their excessive use of force and callous indifference to his distress. Police training needs to double down on de-escalation tactics. But Floyd’s death should not undermine the legitimacy of American law enforcement, without which we will continue on a path toward chaos.
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2020 likes feelings over facts so sadly these details will be ignored
 
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Where is that in the article?

Did you read the article? He rounded.

The police fatally shot nine unarmed blacks and 19 unarmed whites in 2019, according to a Washington Post database, down from 38 and 32, respectively, in 2015. The Post defines “unarmed” broadly to include such cases as a suspect in Newark, N.J., who had a loaded handgun in his car during a police chase. In 2018 there were 7,407 black homicide victims. Assuming a comparable number of victims last year, those nine unarmed black victims of police shootings represent 0.1% of all African-Americans killed in 2019. By contrast, a police officer is 18½ times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.
 

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Mob will come in this thread tonight and tell all of you statistics and math don't matter and he only cares about what he sees with his own eyes. He'll then give you some rap lyrics, call you klansmen and praise himself all in one post.

But, one thing is for certain, he will ignore the absolute facts in this article.
 

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If you went by the media you would think 99.9% of people killed by cops are black
 

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Did you read the article? He rounded.

The police fatally shot nine unarmed blacks and 19 unarmed whites in 2019, according to a Washington Post database, down from 38 and 32, respectively, in 2015. The Post defines “unarmed” broadly to include such cases as a suspect in Newark, N.J., who had a loaded handgun in his car during a police chase. In 2018 there were 7,407 black homicide victims. Assuming a comparable number of victims last year, those nine unarmed black victims of police shootings represent 0.1% of all African-Americans killed in 2019. By contrast, a police officer is 18½ times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.

Thanks I scanned for 20--- close enough.

However its still bullshit.



9 * 18 = 162

No way that many cops were killed by blacks in 2019
 

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my concern with all of this is that

a) everybody agrees in equality across the board. White lives matter, Black lives matter, Asian lives matter, etc … this singling out of one group to create a narrative is harmful and unproductive
b) everybody agrees that police are not well trained in diffusing situations or reading the situation correctly and that the hierarchy of police departments is woefully set up to be run like DC bureaucrats. just like this week they're all pretty much standing down and allowing billions of dollars of damage to happen
c) everybody, except police unions, believe that Qualified Immunity is an intiquated ruling and that cops need to understand there are consequences to their actions. Not just to their actions against unarmed black men but all of their actions from shoving a breathalyzer into someone's face or enflaming a situation with a baton to the chest. If they were educated on how to work with their community and not chubbing up when a citizen fears them, we'd all be better off

the systemic racism of police is a fairy tale, simply propaganda that too many Americans fall for. Police act like shitty thugs to everybody but certainly do not injury or kill a disproportionate amount of blacks which is why you never hear "the left" or MSM spout out statistics and ratios.

Right now we're focused on the wrong problem. It's like worrying about how my tire tread you have left on a truck that don't run...it's idiocy

I might not like cops but I respect their job and would never do it myself. They engage in disputes and potential harmful situations with us 400 million times per year and die more than they kill.
 

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It’s just another government agency people should be skeptical of.

With body cameras nowadays there is more transparency but I’ve always said I can only imagine the shortcuts they took in the 70s and 80s after drugs began ravaging cities and crime had skyrocketed. I’m sure this is where a lot of the distrust from older minorities comes into play.
 

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Thanks I scanned for 20--- close enough.

However its still bullshit.



9 * 18 = 162

No way that many cops were killed by blacks in 2019

Civilians kill police officers about 60 times a year....And maybe a third of those involve anything remotely premeditated...The majority are affiliated w some variation of automobile collisions etc
 

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While most civilians are likely very undereducated about criminal laws, it is reasonable to submit that it is an incredible few who would be unaware that killing a police officer w premeditation is a capital offense that effectively ends the life of the killer as well. That's why it is so rare
 

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yep the real problem is 9 unarmed blacks killed by police in 2019 in the estimated 175 million encounters with police officers. It's absolutely not the 7500 killed in homicides, on average 93-94% of them at the hands of another black man.

cover up the real issues and expect drastic change? that's the leftist way. If your car's out of gas you'll change the spark plugs and call it "fixed"
 

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more inconvenience....systemic racism anyone?



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Excellent article. The whole narrative of police killing blacks is contrived. More blacks are killed by blacks in Chicago alone. No outrage over those killings. This whole BLM movement isn't supported by any facts. The policemen are being prosecuted in Minneapolis. There will be no appeasing this mob. Reparations for slavery, abolish the police, releasing people who are arrested without putting up bail. The insanity isnt going to stop.
 

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yep the real problem is 9 unarmed blacks killed by police in 2019 in the estimated 175 million encounters with police officers. It's absolutely not the 7500 killed in homicides, on average 93-94% of them at the hands of another black man.

cover up the real issues and expect drastic change? that's the leftist way. If your car's out of gas you'll change the spark plugs and call it "fixed"

IF they talked about the REAL issues of black people being "Murdered", then they would have to take responsibility.... But they dont want to take responsibility, its easier to point the finger and blame someone else.
 

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buuuuut...white people
but but .... the problem is racial injustice... i mean, systemic racism .... err, white privilege ... or any other meaningless term you can't define.

XiNN and NYT would not lie to me! this stuff is real like American Nazis, Pelosi's Catholicism, and UCF national championships
 

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I'm personally not a big fan of cops...any job you basically can't get fired from and you only "earn" raises and promotions because of years of service and union agreements does not lend itself to having people perform their job well. Then top it off with the ridiculous Qualified Immunity ruling that's been our standard for nearly 40 years and these guys walk around with impunity. They are woefully unprepared, carry around nasty attitudes, and believe the badge gives them freedom to harass. (yes I'm generalizing)


I agree 10000% percent. Been saying that for years. Mentally and physically sharp, they are not. Situational awareness, they don't have it. The academy is bullshit, I would never use one pointer they learn to save my own ass. I'm 45, for 30 years I've kept myself in top condition all around. It's balance, yes it is hard, but I see it through at all times. These coppers need better training, better conditioning at all times, lose the badge tough guy approach, and on and on. I'll end it with this.....if they removed their badge, they would not try jack shit with someone on the street or otherwise​
 

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