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Stanford University's disease prevention chairman slammed using statewide lockdown measures as a response to the coronavirus, saying they were implemented based on bad data and inaccurate modeling.
“There are already more than 50 studies that have presented results on how many people in different countries and locations have developed antibodies to the virus,” Dr. John Ioannidis said during a recent interview with Greek Reporter. “Of course, none of these studies are perfect, but cumulatively, they provide useful composite evidence. A very crude estimate might suggest that about 150-300 million or more people have already been infected around the world, far more than the 10 million documented cases.”


Ioannidis pointed out the mortality rate is low among young people who have contracted the virus.
“The death rate in a given country depends a lot on the age structure, who are the people infected, and how they are managed,” Ioannidis said. “For people younger than 45, the infection fatality rate is almost 0%. For 45 to 70, it is probably about 0.05%-0.3%. For those above 70, it escalates substantially.”

“Major consequences on the economy, society, and mental health have already occurred," he said. "I hope they are reversible, and this depends to a large extent on whether we can avoid prolonging the draconian lockdowns and manage to deal with COVID-19 in a smart, precision-risk targeted approach rather than blindly shutting down everything."

 
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I love how people LOVE to quote doctors when they say how the stats are low and "not so bad" and yet when those SAME doctors tell us to social distance and wear facemasks, they go batshit crazy.

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I love how people LOVE to quote doctors when they say how the stats are low and "not so bad" and yet when those SAME doctors tell us to social distance and wear facemasks, they go batshit crazy.

Crazy

see the articles that X Flys post on face masks are useless as a chain link fence holding a fly out. Lol
 

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I love how people LOVE to quote doctors when they say how the stats are low and "not so bad" and yet when those SAME doctors tell us to social distance and wear facemasks, they go batshit crazy.

Crazy

You realize that there are many prongs to this analysis, right?

I'm 30 years old. Should I wear a mask when I visit friends at a pool who are also 30 years old? No.

I'm 30 years old. I want to go visit my grandmother tomorrow. Should I go to the pool with my friends and then go visit my grandmother? No.

The fact liberals want to impose the strictest protocols on ALL people for no fucking reason other to virtue signal is the problem.

There's zero fucking reason why healthy 20/30/40/50 year old people should not have the freedom to do whatever they want to do. If you're elderly or sick, then you should have different protocols you're following.

The idea we should strip freedom from everyone because some people are morons is very problematic, because some people will ALWAYS be morons, so I guess never any freedom.
 

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You realize that there are many prongs to this analysis, right?

I'm 30 years old. Should I wear a mask when I visit friends at a pool who are also 30 years old? No.

I'm 30 years old. I want to go visit my grandmother tomorrow. Should I go to the pool with my friends and then go visit my grandmother? No.

The fact liberals want to impose the strictest protocols on ALL people for no fucking reason other to virtue signal is the problem.

There's zero fucking reason why healthy 20/30/40/50 year old people should not have the freedom to do whatever they want to do. If you're elderly or sick, then you should have different protocols you're following.

The idea we should strip freedom from everyone because some people are morons is very problematic, because some people will ALWAYS be morons, so I guess never any freedom.
I wish more people would get this simple logic.

I've gained a new disrespect for society as a whole
 
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You realize that there are many prongs to this analysis, right?

I'm 30 years old. Should I wear a mask when I visit friends at a pool who are also 30 years old? No.

I'm 30 years old. I want to go visit my grandmother tomorrow. Should I go to the pool with my friends and then go visit my grandmother? No.

The fact liberals want to impose the strictest protocols on ALL people for no fucking reason other to virtue signal is the problem.

There's zero fucking reason why healthy 20/30/40/50 year old people should not have the freedom to do whatever they want to do. If you're elderly or sick, then you should have different protocols you're following.

The idea we should strip freedom from everyone because some people are morons is very problematic, because some people will ALWAYS be morons, so I guess never any freedom.

Perfectly stated.
 
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You realize that there are many prongs to this analysis, right?

I'm 30 years old. Should I wear a mask when I visit friends at a pool who are also 30 years old? No.

I'm 30 years old. I want to go visit my grandmother tomorrow. Should I go to the pool with my friends and then go visit my grandmother? No.

The fact liberals want to impose the strictest protocols on ALL people for no fucking reason other to virtue signal is the problem.

There's zero fucking reason why healthy 20/30/40/50 year old people should not have the freedom to do whatever they want to do. If you're elderly or sick, then you should have different protocols you're following.

The idea we should strip freedom from everyone because some people are morons is very problematic, because some people will ALWAYS be morons, so I guess never any freedom.

The thing is, many elderly live with middle aged & younger people. So "doing whatever they (50 & under) want to do" will put the elderly they live with at much higher risk re C-19, the flu, etc. That's just one example of a situation where irresponsible youth put others at risk. There are many more.

The people who wanted the shutdowns of various degrees wanted to avoid the risk of hospitals being overwhelmed resulting in many more deaths plus civil unrest, etc.

In times of war people often lose some freedoms temporarily in order to obtain freedom for the future. It's called sacrificing for others, not selfishness.
 

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So those most at risk are the most knowledgeable, wise & useful to society.

Including most of the elected leaders in the world.

ya need to look at the data bro. In Canada over 80% of deaths are in LTC facilities ,does that demographic qualify as 'most useful to society' ? add loss of cognitive function and 'most knowledgeable' likely out the window as well. Cmon man

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html

scroll down to figure 4 then dropdown click 'deceased'

as of July 14, 2020 in Canada;

71% of deaths are 80+ age group

if we add the 70+, the two groups account for 90% of covid fatalities
 
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ya need to look at the data bro. In Canada over 80% of deaths are in LTC facilities ,does that demographic qualify as 'most useful to society' ? add loss of cognitive function and 'most knowledgeable' likely out the window as well. Cmon man

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html

scroll down to figure 4 then dropdown click 'deceased'

as of July 14, 2020 in Canada;

71% of deaths are 80+ age group

if we add the 70+, the two groups account for 90% of covid fatalities

Well, Canada is not the world.

Also, compared to the 1-20 year olds, the 80+ year olds are still more knowledgable, wise and useful to society.

Likewise when comparing the 21-45 year olds with the 46-79 year olds. Again most elected world leaders are in the 46 & up age group.

So, arguably, there is more merit in shutdowns for C-19 than for something that kills only children.

Children are much more easily replaceable.
 

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I love how people LOVE to quote doctors when they say how the stats are low and "not so bad" and yet when those SAME doctors tell us to social distance and wear facemasks, they go batshit crazy.

Crazy

Only Dr Fauci takes those extreme positions, and I discount whatever he says because he's been so erratic
 

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Well, Canada is not the world.

Also, compared to the 1-20 year olds, the 80+ year olds are still more knowledgable, wise and useful to society.

Likewise when comparing the 21-45 year olds with the 46-79 year olds. Again most elected world leaders are in the 46 & up age group.

So, arguably, there is more merit in shutdowns for C-19 than for something that kills only children.

Children are much more easily replaceable.

um, you posted this rubbish; 'So those most at risk are the most knowledgeable, wise & useful to society.'

i provided ACTUAL data from the country u live in (from its govt!!) , and u came back to defend that stupid statement? ....lol. 80 yr olds r not the 'most useful' to society




'Children are much more easily replaceable' -- tell it to Japan @):mad:.
 

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um, you posted this rubbish; 'So those most at risk are the most knowledgeable, wise & useful to society.'

i provided ACTUAL data from the country u live in (from its govt!!) , and u came back to defend that stupid statement? ....lol. 80 yr olds r not the 'most useful' to society




'Children are much more easily replaceable' -- tell it to Japan @):mad:.

this retard really thinks good public policy prioritizes the well being of 80-100 year olds over the well being of 1-20 year olds.

case closed, X files is a documented retard.
 

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