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Having just read the article, I agree that it well worth the read.

Even though some folks in here label me as far left liberal at best, that is far from the case, and I actually agree with much of what is stated here.

For example I am against both abortion and gay marriage because of my religious beliefs, which overall combine the best of what I deem to be from

Judaism by born religion and Christianity.

I do not agree though with the article though in its entirety.

I do think there are some resultant unanswered questions at least for me.

For example, for those of us who are religious, one has to make the decision as to what percentage of one's thinking should be based on his own religious beliefs

as opposed to his beliefs based on the secular world where of which politics is a big part.

In other words, the question arises as to whether everything we say and do should be based on our higher power beliefs, our secular and political beliefs

or somewhere in between.

As I myself am a strong believer in the afterlife, in general I subordinate my secular and political beliefs to my religious ones.

However as I do live a secular life and do believe that there is a divine purpose for my existence, I do have to make everyday decisions and act

upon what I deem to be the right thing to do, which in turn is guided by my inner and spiritual sense.

In short, what I am saying is that there is a dichotomy between religion and one's secular existence which each person must resolve for themselves.

Getting more specific and as it relates to the article and the Election, I simply do not believe that it is really all that simple to talk about terms

like vision and future in a vacuum without considering the individuals whose actions will have a big effect on the former.

To cut to the chase, from what I have seen of President Trump over the last four years, my honest opinion is that his interests are

mostly all self-serving, and that he has very little concern, empathy and sympathy for anyone other than his family and supporters.

Rather than go on, lets just say that based on both my spiritual and secular opinions, I do not feel Trump is the man for the job,

and imo not in the opinion of God either.

Change is needed.

ps If nothing else, I hope that this serves to show willie99 that at least some of are capable of independent thought and know how to and are not

afraid to express it.

Hopefully some other folks will express their opinions to the topic of the thread.
 

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Thank God I will be out of this forum shortly and on to some other forum where the intelligence, intellectual, educational level, ability to express oneself

is a bit higher than in this Forum which amounts to that of a pea; this shows not only in the lack of response not in this thread but also in others where I

I have expressed myself.

The one who best epitomizes what I am talking about is willie99, who claims that he and his side have superior genes to ours, but

who never has responded to anything I have written other than with name calling and insults, or for that matter anything anyone else has written of an

intellectual nature because he does not have the necessary brain power and writing skills to do so.

Then again generally speaking, why should I be surprised considering the overall mindset of this forum which doesn't have time for topics which require

a bit more thought and emphasis of who they are going to bet on that day, and in most cases trying to get back some of their overall lost money from

bets made over time.
 

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^Landau Sports Prop Offering

Vitterd = +999

Not Vitterd = -1500

I held an extra dollar. It's my religion.
 
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Vitterd = +999

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I held an extra dollar. It's my religion.

concur

My ol' buddy Barman's ol' buddy JoeC is either trolling (gasp!) or bored out of his mind to be running w S being a vit ghost
 

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Nah, this is the guy who argued in the Service Play section awhile back. He puts a ton of effort into his debates only to get one-line trolled in responses. Wasted a ton of time here in there. I think you even had a thread going back and forth with him once. Savage don't @ me. LOL
 

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I pride myself with my intelligence and education in being able to express myself and my thoughts.

I welcome all civil responses to what I post(I can dream can't I), and actually do want to listen to opposing points of view,

which in fact might even might make me reconsider what I posted originally.

After the Election is over, I am going to seek out a forum or forums where there are intelligent and educated people to CIVILLY and RESPECTFULLY

discuss and debate controversial topics.

No offense, but by and large with a few obvious exceptions, there are very few people in this Forum who measure up to high standards I am looking for.
 

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I pride myself with my intelligence and education in being able to express myself and my thoughts.

I welcome all civil responses to what I post(I can dream can't I), and actually do want to listen to opposing points of view,

which in fact might even might make me reconsider what I posted originally.

After the Election is over, I am going to seek out a forum or forums where there are intelligent and educated people to CIVILLY and RESPECTFULLY

discuss and debate controversial topics.

No offense, but by and large with a few obvious exceptions, there are very few people in this Forum who measure up to high standards I am looking for.

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Having just read the article, I agree that it well worth the read.

Even though some folks in here label me as far left liberal at best, that is far from the case, and I actually agree with much of what is stated here.

For example I am against both abortion and gay marriage because of my religious beliefs, which overall combine the best of what I deem to be from

Judaism by born religion and Christianity.

I do not agree though with the article though in its entirety.

I do think there are some resultant unanswered questions at least for me.

For example, for those of us who are religious, one has to make the decision as to what percentage of one's thinking should be based on his own religious beliefs

as opposed to his beliefs based on the secular world where of which politics is a big part.

In other words, the question arises as to whether everything we say and do should be based on our higher power beliefs, our secular and political beliefs

or somewhere in between.

As I myself am a strong believer in the afterlife, in general I subordinate my secular and political beliefs to my religious ones.

However as I do live a secular life and do believe that there is a divine purpose for my existence, I do have to make everyday decisions and act

upon what I deem to be the right thing to do, which in turn is guided by my inner and spiritual sense.

In short, what I am saying is that there is a dichotomy between religion and one's secular existence which each person must resolve for themselves.

Getting more specific and as it relates to the article and the Election, I simply do not believe that it is really all that simple to talk about terms

like vision and future in a vacuum without considering the individuals whose actions will have a big effect on the former.

To cut to the chase, from what I have seen of President Trump over the last four years, my honest opinion is that his interests are

mostly all self-serving, and that he has very little concern, empathy and sympathy for anyone other than his family and supporters.

Rather than go on, lets just say that based on both my spiritual and secular opinions, I do not feel Trump is the man for the job,

and imo not in the opinion of God either.

Change is needed.

ps If nothing else, I hope that this serves to show willie99 that at least some of are capable of independent thought and know how to and are not

afraid to express it.

Hopefully some other folks will express their opinions to the topic of the thread.

You can't be a Christian and support a Biden / Harris ticket.
 

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