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    Quote Originally Posted by exploited17 View Post
    Well, I am talking about the same people bitching about Democrats with little to know answer or understanding to why things are the way they are .Or without much of an answer on how to fix it other than the same nonsense typical Republicans have preached beofre
    I say it all the time but obviously it’s a slow bleed and there are more pressing issues at any
    given time, it’s more of a long term thing.

    Also, it is not the easiest point to make in polite company. I think that’s why all this Qanon/deep state stuff took off is because as bizarre as some of that stuff sounds, it mostly gets laughed off by most people. Saying US is cooked because we decided to change the population over the last 50 years is a bit untenable in polite society

    You see they voted down affirmative action in CA? Atleast it’ll be funny watching these loosely tied together coalitions eat each other.
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    People just don't realize what happened here - they had this election six weeks ago - Purdue won by 90,000 votes with a Libertarian on the ticket sucking off his votes - six weeks later he loses by 16,000 votes???
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    Republicans are better off focusing on the House. They had a pretty good election there.

    They were going to lose the Senate in 2022 pretty decisively anyway. They'll be fortunate to have 45 seats in there after the 2022 election.
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    Covid killed the Republicans......it was actually a pretty clever plan to play it the way the Democrats did.

    Its all in cycles.......but this ballot harvesting / mail voting needs some laws written or it will have to get really bad for the middle class before the soccer moms and soy boys change their views and voting habits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albatross View Post
    Covid killed the Republicans......it was actually a pretty clever plan to play it the way the Democrats did.

    Its all in cycles.......but this ballot harvesting / mail voting needs some laws written or it will have to get really bad for the middle class before the soccer moms and soy boys change their views and voting habits.
    If mail in voting persists going forward - blacks will have 100% turnout
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    I would rather it be this way.
    Expedite what was ultimately coming anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avocado33 View Post
    Republicans are better off focusing on the House. They had a pretty good election there.

    They were going to lose the Senate in 2022 pretty decisively anyway. They'll be fortunate to have 45 seats in there after the 2022 election.
    Policies matter, both Clinton an Obama were totally destroyed two years after their elections by misreading the electorate. If you want to see what a political wave looks like, research the results of 1994 and 2010

    Obama may have been the most rejected POTUS in American history, he lost 63 house seats and 8 Senate seats during his term. Trump lost 30 and 2, respectively. Obama lost 1,000 democrats at the federal and state levels, he lost control of the governors and he even lost control of the state legislators. Yet our media holds him up to be some successful political genius. He set the democratic party back significantly. Obama actually gave us Trump

    In 1994, the revolution against extreme left wing policies gave the Republicans 54 House seats and 8 Senate seats

    In 2010, extreme left wing policies and Obamacare gave the Republicans 63 House seats and 7 Senate seats. Obama even lost the Kennedy's legacy seat, although Warren reclaimed it two years later

    1994 and 2010, that's what a wave looks like, way way way worse than anything the happened to the GOP under Trump

    If Biden makes the same mistakes they made, 2022 will look like 2010 & 1994. (unless unverifiable mail in voting becomes the new norm, but maybe the GOP will figure out how to game the system by then)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie99 View Post
    Policies matter, both Clinton an Obama were totally destroyed two years after their elections by misreading the electorate. If you want to see what a political wave looks like, research the results of 1994 and 2010

    Obama may have been the most rejected POTUS in American history, he lost 63 house seats and 8 Senate seats during his term. Trump lost 30 and 2, respectively. Obama lost 1,000 democrats at the federal and state levels, he lost control of the governors and he even lost control of the state legislators. Yet our media holds him up to be some successful political genius. He set the democratic party back significantly. Obama actually gave us Trump

    In 1994, the revolution against extreme left wing policies gave the Republicans 54 House seats and 8 Senate seats

    In 2010, extreme left wing policies and Obamacare gave the Republicans 63 House seats and 7 Senate seats. Obama even lost the Kennedy's legacy seat, although Warren reclaimed it two years later

    1994 and 2010, that's what a wave looks like, way way way worse than anything the happened to the GOP under Trump

    If Biden makes the same mistakes they made, 2022 will look like 2010 & 1994. (unless unverifiable mail in voting becomes the new norm, but maybe the GOP will figure out how to game the system by then)
    How were Clinton and Obama easily re-elected in 96 and 12. Not sure of a red wave when remains blue at the top
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie99 View Post
    Policies matter, both Clinton an Obama were totally destroyed two years after their elections by misreading the electorate. If you want to see what a political wave looks like, research the results of 1994 and 2010

    Obama may have been the most rejected POTUS in American history, he lost 63 house seats and 8 Senate seats during his term. Trump lost 30 and 2, respectively. Obama lost 1,000 democrats at the federal and state levels, he lost control of the governors and he even lost control of the state legislators. Yet our media holds him up to be some successful political genius. He set the democratic party back significantly. Obama actually gave us Trump

    In 1994, the revolution against extreme left wing policies gave the Republicans 54 House seats and 8 Senate seats

    In 2010, extreme left wing policies and Obamacare gave the Republicans 63 House seats and 7 Senate seats. Obama even lost the Kennedy's legacy seat, although Warren reclaimed it two years later

    1994 and 2010, that's what a wave looks like, way way way worse than anything the happened to the GOP under Trump

    If Biden makes the same mistakes they made, 2022 will look like 2010 & 1994. (unless unverifiable mail in voting becomes the new norm, but maybe the GOP will figure out how to game the system by then)
    The map is stacked against Republicans in 2022. It's as simple as that, as far as the Senate is concerned. The Democrats will almost certainly grow their Senate advantage by simply playing offense.

    I guess the House is up for debate. It'll be interesting to see if a red wave comes back, but I doubt it. Demographics are changing in this country to heavily favor the Democrats for the foreseeable future, and it's hard to see Biden doing anything radical enough to spark some sort of resurgence from Republicans.

    He can govern pretty mediocrely and it won't matter. He needs a combination of horrible policy and be more of polarizer than Trump; even if the policy sucks, it's going to be tough for him to be even half as polarizing of a person as Trump.
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    The 2022 map and the 2010 map are exactly the same, it's as simple as that

    2010 + 6 = 2016
    2016 + 6 = 2022
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightrofins View Post
    How were Clinton and Obama easily re-elected in 96 and 12. Not sure of a red wave when remains blue at the top
    Clinton moved to the right. Signed Newt's welfare reform he previously vetoed twice. After that, he even signed Newt's budget which democrats opposed but took credit for the surpluses it created (Clinton could take credit, he signed it)

    Obama was elected in 2008 by winning just about every demographic. 2012 was a different story, he won with a very large urban vote that gave him a 90% + margin in key states.

    Neither of their reelections changes the fact that they suffered to two biggest bitch slappings in modern day presidential history in their first mid-terms
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie99 View Post
    The 2022 map and the 2010 map are exactly the same, it's as simple as that

    2010 + 6 = 2016
    2016 + 6 = 2022
    Republicans defending more of those seats though this time around.

    They won't have the opportunity to overturn anything in the Senate. Democrats controlling the Senate after 2022 was/is the safest politcal bet you can make.
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    Haha, of course they're in trouble

    So those sweeping victories 12 years ago mean nothing

    Compounded by the fact they won in 2016 means nothing, nope

    If Biden goes to the whacked out left over the next two years, Republicans are in trouble

    History be damned, those wepbuwicans won't win whistime
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie99 View Post
    Haha, of course they're in trouble

    So those sweeping victories 12 years ago mean nothing

    Compounded by the fact they won in 2016 means nothing, nope

    If Biden goes to the whacked out left over the next two years, Republicans are in trouble

    History be damned, those wepbuwicans won't win whistime
    How many of those 2010 Senate seats that were up for grabs were already held by Republicans?

    They already lost control and are going to be playing a lot of defense in 2022. It will take some all-time awful policy and terrible behavior from Biden to turn the tide back red.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avocado33 View Post
    It will take some all-time awful policy and terrible behavior from Biden to turn the tide back red.
    I don't think it will be too difficult for him to pull that off. Especially if he's going to remain a pawn of the far left loons in the party. Like his VP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Love View Post
    I don't think it will be too difficult for him to pull that off. Especially if he's going to remain a pawn of the far left loons in the party. Like his VP.
    Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but I think the Biden Administration will actually govern more moderately than a lot of Republicans think. A lot of the lefty talk is exactly that -- talk.

    Maybe four years of elections results showing that most of America isn't buying that bullshit will finally convince the Democrats to trend towards the middle. Maybe not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avocado33 View Post
    Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but I think the Biden Administration will actually govern more moderately than a lot of Republicans think. A lot of the lefty talk is exactly that -- talk.
    Here's to hoping you are right. I'm not at all optimistic about that though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie99 View Post
    Policies matter, both Clinton an Obama were totally destroyed two years after their elections by misreading the electorate. If you want to see what a political wave looks like, research the results of 1994 and 2010
    Yet Clinton and Obama both won re-election pretty easily

    If policies matter so much, why didn't Trump last more than one term? He had pretty reasonable policies IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avocado33 View Post
    If policies matter so much, why didn't Trump last more than one term?
    What matters now, is what the MSM wants you to know. And what narrative they will spin. And what gets censored on social media.

    That's what's most important now.
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    Republican party really really has some soul searching to do. Whatever equity was made over the past 4 years was literally thrown out the window in a single day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3peet View Post
    Republican party really really has some soul searching to do.
    This applies to both parties, though Democrats obviously are in a better position in the near future.

    End of Trump will be good for the Republicans in the long run. I think that day was a good opportunity for many on the right to detach from him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avocado33 View Post
    This applies to both parties, though Democrats obviously are in a better position in the near future.

    End of Trump will be good for the Republicans in the long run. I think that day was a good opportunity for many on the right to detach from him
    And astounding how fast it happened too. Within a matter of hours the straw finally broke the camels back. It would be nice to work with sensible republicans. Let's see how it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3peet View Post
    And astounding how fast it happened too. Within a matter of hours the straw finally broke the camels back. It would be nice to work with sensible republicans. Let's see how it goes.
    And it would be nice to work with sensible Democrats too. It works both ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3peet View Post
    Republican party really really has some soul searching to do. Whatever equity was made over the past 4 years was literally thrown out the window in a single day.
    While democrats have thrown their credibility out the window for four years and counting

    I can't comprehend how good and smart people don't see the extreme hypocrisy of such statements. Whatever happened in DC pales to 4 years of violence and uprising actually encouraged and espoused by the left. This is the world the left has created, and it's obvious from their ongoing lies coming out of DC there's no turning back. Welcome to your world democrats, good luck with that.

    Until we the people hold all politicians and our scumbag media accountable for whatever lies, false narratives, fake news and hatred they've created, there will be no reconciliation in the political arena
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avocado33 View Post
    How many of those 2010 Senate seats that were up for grabs were already held by Republicans?

    They already lost control and are going to be playing a lot of defense in 2022. It will take some all-time awful policy and terrible behavior from Biden to turn the tide back red.
    How many incumbents lose?

    They won in 2010 because of extreme leftwing policies, they won again in 2016, there's absolutely no reason to believe they'll lose if Biden tries to keep his extreme left wing promises

    Your sources tell us the map is always bad for Republicans. Your sources told us the Republican party is dead on multiple occasions. Your sources told us 2020 was going to be a blue wave, and we saw a whopping three republican incumbent senators lose, two of them were appointed to begin with (as in not previously elected to their seat). In the meantime, republicans shocked your party and your sources with double digit pickups in the House

    Conventional wisdom is rarely wise. Let time do it's thing. If Biden does a good job, only then can the GOP be in trouble in 2022.



    PS: If those 2022 incumbents on the ballot first won in 2016, then your argument would carry more weight
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