IMPORTANT SCAMMER INFORMATION FOR SPORTS BOOKS!!

Guest · Sep 23, 2002

Beware of TWO guys who will say they are "AGENTS" and try and place a "package" of 5-10 players into your sports book...

In reality, these are scammers who are taking shots at you by betting the games themselves. If they win, obviously, you have to pay out but if they lose, you won't see a penny from them...

They are also using excuses to hoodwink you by stating that they just had to pull a package out of so and so sports book because they are concerned that this other sports book is having financial problems...

These cons are also known to throw out key names in this indusry for you to use as a "REFERENCE" but it's all a total fabrication, so hopefully, if you do your due diligence and check out the name dropping, you would learn that these bookmakers that are being used as references have never heard of these scammers...

One of the thieves uses the name of DAVID KALMAR and says he is located in Southern California.

The other guy is named TOM, who states he is out of FLORIDA and his package includes players from Florida and New York...

If any of these so called "agents" tries to enter your sports book with their packages, I would stay far far away or you will get ripped off...

Hope this helps,

THE SHRINK

[This message was edited by THE SHRINK on 12-06-02 at 10:09 AM.]

terryjordan · Sep 23, 2002

from "THE SHRUNK"

da1ghost · Sep 23, 2002

David is in the 818 area code. He was quick trying to get his money from us the two weeks he was up big and then last monday turned his phone off. Any information about this guy would be greatly appreciated. If he tries to setup a sheet anywhere, please ask him to hold and call the ghost at 506-288-8897 or 1-800-232-0744.

PS sounded like one of the players in his package was Oriental and the others had an Israeli accent.

Guest · Sep 23, 2002

Thank you so much for the heads up. The sorry bastard got a hold of the 1-800 number on my cellphone and kept calling me even at 2 o'clock in the morning to bring over a package into my sheet.

Thanks to Judge, I didn't get totally screwed up. (Thanks again brother, you da shit!!!)

For all interested, he also goes by the name of Edward Kalmar. And if anybody is interested(Ghost??) I can post the phone number I got on my caller ID.

Once again, THANKS JUDGE!

StoneCold+ · Sep 24, 2002

than one might think. I mean there are all types out there, and factor in guys from sites who have decent reps are even in on this kinda crap.

This all stems from GREED. Plain and simple. Chances are if your the BOOK who got caught on this, its your own GREED that stuck ya......

P.S. Hey SHRINK you got any PLAYERS out there?

Katwoman · Sep 24, 2002

I know I shouldn't laugh at this point, but THE SHRUNK!!!! LMAO that was the funniest thing I've ever seen coming from him

I just felt like I had to say it

www.betgrande.com · Dec 5, 2002

If you have Konstantin Khuditskiy playing in your book beware he was caught hacking into our software and his account has been closed. He has an address in CANADA. If you have any questions feel free to call austin at Grande.

Guest · Dec 5, 2002

Konstantin Khuditskiy -

That is the hacker we had at Dunes as well. Beware he uses credit cards he hacks from lord knows where and you will get charge backs out the ass.

God that is a name from the past.

He also has addresses in Russia.

I had a file so thick on that guy.

Guest · Dec 5, 2002

wrong thread

Pirate · Dec 6, 2002

There you go talking about ass again.

Guest · Dec 6, 2002

LOL- didn't even realize I used that word.

I have such a potty mouth.
Maybe one day I will try to fix it.

Pirate- there you go thinking about ass again. /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Guest · Dec 6, 2002

how can you not think about " the ass" when the rx hottie angelle posts /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

JimmyTheHood · Dec 14, 2002

Angelle, nevermind Konstantin...what the hell happened to the Dunes?

They disappeared with my deposit which I'm sure I'll never see again. Damm scammers!

JimmyTheHood · Dec 21, 2002

How 'bout it Angelle...did you disappear too?

Guest · Dec 22, 2002

Jimmy,
Sorry I just now saw your post or I would have responded sonner.

No I have not disappeared. I am still here, but as far as your deposit I have No f u c k i n g clue. I left before they disappeared, I moved back to the states to finish school. And it was my understanding when I left all accounts owed moneies had been paid. At least that is what they told me, but who knows if that was the truth. But if you happen to find them let me know, as I am owed money as well. Anyway, I try my best to forget about the hell I wen through there. Bad times at the end.

I am truely sorry you lost you money, but I assure you it was never in my pocket.

I can try my best to help you if you wish. You can email me @ Angelle2222@yahoo.com. You can explain your situation, but I doubt anything can really been done. I have been in trying myself to get money. I have lawyers working on lawsuits, but it doesn't looking promising for me. However, if there is anything that you think I can help you with feel free to email me.

Again, I am sorry. If there is more I could do I would. If I had money myself, I would give it to you.

Have a very merry christmas.
Bye

JimmyTheHood · Dec 23, 2002

I was just hoping against hope that someone knew the whereabouts of these crooks.

Anyway, I'm sorry that you lost money too... I hope they didn't burn too many others.

Thanks again, Angelle, and have a Merry Christmas yourself.

CountryDickMontana- · Dec 23, 2002

Guest · Dec 24, 2002

No problem Jimmy- I will let you know if I do hear anything

freak · Dec 24, 2002

It's not hard to find Samantha from Dunes.....

I really don't want to get into the Dunes fiasco as they stiffed me as well.

The one and only time ever stiffed.

JimmyTheHood · Dec 24, 2002

And I remember telling my gambling buddies that you can trust the offshore sportsbooks... especially the ones recommended by the Prescription.

But I should have known better than to sign up with a book that hasn't been around at least 4 or 5 years.

Experience is the best teacher!