THE MLB CHALLENGE:UPDATE AS OF:ENDING 07-25-03

THERECORDKEEPER2 · Jul 26, 2003

SPACIOUS K_____12-8____+5.19 UNITS_____+5.19units
2HEADMONSTER___433-369__+1.47 UNITS___+25.47units
OMAHAMONEY_____66-58____+1.15 UNITS____+1.15units
MASTERTX______14-14____-0.08 UNITS_____-0.08units
SSI_______199-217_____-0.54 UNITS_____+41.86units
LOCKLINE______3-4______-1.4 UNITS_______-1.4units
TEKARI________2-4______-1.55 UNITS_____-1.55units
BLACKLAB____687-751____-1.96 UNITS____-54.79units
SHAWNGOTTI_____65-51____-2.2 UNITS____-19.15units
REX FOSTER____83-90____-2.3 UNITS______+3.31units
RAIDERS______11-15_____-2.56 UNITS_____-2.56units
MCIRISH_____49-44_____-3.49 UNITS______-3.49units
MASTER L______25-36_____-3.57 UNITS____-6.36units
ELITE ONE _____3-8_____-5.49 UNITS_____-5.49units
RX-MANIAC____257-251____-6.5 UNITS____-44.21units
MADCAPPER____265-271___-7.72 UNITS_____-8.63units
RPM_______51-59______-14.74 UNITS_____-14.16units
THEERODFATHER__199-189__-21.35 UNITS__-94.75units
TRYING2WIN____213-231___-24.28 UNITS___+2.77units
BUCSFAN67____612-616___-24.69 UNITS____-34.2units
KBMNM247____68-90_____-28.9 UNITS_____-41.52units
MFG_____272-286_____-53.02 UNITS_____-503.62units
KODIAK____759-715____-78.08 UNITS___-2685.38units

RESULTS FOR 07-25-03:

RX-MANIAC:12-5_________+7.19__________+211.95
SSI:2-1_______________+0.8___________+0.8
BLACKLAB:2-1__________+0.64___________-0.18
2HEADMONSTER:7-5______+0.1___________-1.2
KODIAK:13-10___________+2.17___________+134.75
BUCSFAN67:5-5_________+0.64___________-0.97
RAIDERS:5-5___________-0.2____________-0.2
MCIRISH:1-2___________-1.43___________-1.43
MFG:1-3_______________-1.57___________-78.5
RPM:1-3_______________-2.65___________-2.65
MASTERTX:0-3__________-3.39___________-3.39

BowlMeOne · Jul 26, 2003

Only 3 guys on the + side of things. That really surprises me. I'm down a bit for the year myself..just not a good year i guess. Still have time to turn it around..good luck the rest of the way boys.

wiz

HectorLopez · Jul 26, 2003

BasesWiz, that is interesting that you point that out because I just went back a year ago and looked at how things were going then. A year ago things were going significantly better.

I can't understand why the disparity in the two years.

JakeT. · Jul 26, 2003

You kick out the two leaders in the challenge (me and dogball) and you lose alot. If you figure us in, things are a whole lot better.

PatrickMcIrish · Jul 26, 2003

Hector - At the end of last year there were exactly two winners. In basketball there was only one or two as well. This year is pretty common actually, lots of people out of the gate early. The fun part starts in the 2nd half, everyone is always up at the break. I'm trying to be positive for both years of the challenge but have a lot of work to do. It's not easy. Hopefully we will do better this year than only the two we had last year. Still a ways to go men so hang in there. Been a lot of fun around here lately....

mjred · Jul 26, 2003

last year was a record year for overall crappiness in mlb. 6 or 7 teams were hanging around at or under .400 all year and 4 teams finished the year under that mark. that was more than any year in at least the last 30. thus, faves were doing well almost all year, makes it a lot easier stay ahead picking faves when you have so many shitty teams losing that much. this year has been a bit more 'normal' whatever that is but still you needed only one team to fade that would have put you up well over 20 units to this point and more to come no doubt, of course that team is detroit, and if you had recognized early on that both chicago teams would be very much overrated you would have faded just those 3 teams for a net of nearly 40 units so far. no 'capping whatsoever, just fade det/chc/chw every game. to make the detroit fade even richer, you could have played against them on the runline as they have only 10 of their 74 losses have been by 1 run.

from here on? good question, both chicagos seem to fancy themselves contenders and they have in fact begun to turn their money burning ways a bit, whether that can last? dunno. certainly no reason to cross detroit off the fade list but who else? cleveland? +10 or so fading them so far, mets? rangers? any others?

would like to heara what teams others are looking at to tank the rest of the way.

SSI · Jul 26, 2003

im doing fine, im up a legit $4100 on the year,, starting with a 5k bankroll. this is just what trk's has in 2nd column, my plays are from 1-5 units, ive made only 33 (5) unit plays all year.. trk isnt even including 2 $500 winners that i posted on stanford in the cws.. 90% of my plays are for a mere $100.. i am having an outstanding year, especially since june 8th, look at the challenge on june 8th,, i believe 2head and a few others are having outstanding years.. Jake thats childish on your part and id cap against you anyday.. Not trying to start anything, just stating a fact and i would think trk can back these statements up..

HectorLopez · Jul 26, 2003

Patrick, you may be correct that at year's end last year there were only 2 in the plus column. However, that is 2 out of 7 players being tracked. This year 23 are being tracked and most are doing poorly.

I also include as part of my assertion in regards to last year Super Scout, MFG and Dogball, all of whom had excellent baseball seasons.

PatrickMcIrish · Jul 26, 2003

Hector you have a point about the guys that weren't tracked last year, though not monitored some of them probably did win. One thing to keep in mind though is that last year when people quit TRK took them down from the challenge. We had lots of guys get in and when they started losing they quit participating, when they did TRK dropped them off the list. So that 7 capper stuff is not indicative of all who played. This year I think TRK just leaves them all up even if they quit playing. I would guess the number of players is about the same as last year, if anything we may have had more run in and out of the system last year. You can double check this with TRK but I am pretty sure this is correct.

HectorLopez · Jul 26, 2003

Patrick, that is an interesting point about those being dropped. In fact, I think that some of the same types in the 23 should be dropped.

Of course, all of what I have said is simply my observations as an outsider. You have a lot more experience in handicapping than I. Thus I am sure that your comments about the way things go in handicapping have validity.

vegasguy39 · Jul 26, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jake Thompson:
You kick out the two leaders in the challenge (me and dogball) and you lose alot. If you figure us in, things are a whole lot better.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Snake

There are set rules one must follow. So stop your whining.

DENIRO · Jul 26, 2003

snake- little wiseass

it is harder to bet with actual money than to just picking

whats that song-at the carwash

panther · Jul 26, 2003

pat

this is a bad story.

no matter how much winners help.winners will win and losers will lose.

we can help winners win.

we can help losers not lose so much.

what else can we do???

good luck

panther

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