I saw that after I looked at his career stats vs SF and laughed
Tucker Snow and Cruz have done well against him going a combined 19 for 62 (about .306) with 4 homers and 10 walks
Other than that (and bonds who is 5 for 27) the only other person currently on SF who has faced him more than 4 times is A.J. Pierzynski who is 1 for 7 (.143).
"1-7 with a 5.17 ERA in 13 career appearances"
Sort of a misleading stat wouldn't you say? - Its not wrong but there could have been some context given-
Here's why I think so:
He is 1-4 in 5 appearances at PacBell/SBC...
(none as a member of the Braves [OR as a member of the rangers last year - http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/player/gamelogs/2003/8130])
...therefore he is 0-3 at other parks (either Colorado or Shea Stadium) vs SF. That is what the 1-7 breaks down to. Not particularly informative if you ask me.
I dont fault you for liking SF - I just wanted to be sure you had the facts.
I do wish you luck though and look forward to yer response.
Tucker Snow and Cruz have done well against him going a combined 19 for 62 (about .306) with 4 homers and 10 walks
Other than that (and bonds who is 5 for 27) the only other person currently on SF who has faced him more than 4 times is A.J. Pierzynski who is 1 for 7 (.143).
"1-7 with a 5.17 ERA in 13 career appearances"
Sort of a misleading stat wouldn't you say? - Its not wrong but there could have been some context given-
Here's why I think so:
He is 1-4 in 5 appearances at PacBell/SBC...
(none as a member of the Braves [OR as a member of the rangers last year - http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/player/gamelogs/2003/8130])
...therefore he is 0-3 at other parks (either Colorado or Shea Stadium) vs SF. That is what the 1-7 breaks down to. Not particularly informative if you ask me.
I dont fault you for liking SF - I just wanted to be sure you had the facts.
I do wish you luck though and look forward to yer response.
interesting - I found this at covers:
http://www.covers.com/data/mlb/matchups/g4_starters_15.aspx
It shows that he hasnt faced SF since 2002 once with the mets and 2 times with colorado - all at SF - he gave up 3 runs with the mets 4 and 8 with colorado...
he also faced them with colorado 2 times in 01 where he went 1-1 and once in 99 @colorado.
http://www.covers.com/data/mlb/matchups/g4_starters_15.aspx
It shows that he hasnt faced SF since 2002 once with the mets and 2 times with colorado - all at SF - he gave up 3 runs with the mets 4 and 8 with colorado...
he also faced them with colorado 2 times in 01 where he went 1-1 and once in 99 @colorado.
-2 is +171 (at pinny)- not bad for a home dog with a better pitcher on the mound
FWIW only 7 of their 18 wins this month were decided by 2 or more
If looking for payout I would have gone with the -1.5 (+120 at bodog)
I need a win though not a big payout
If bonds does start though I cant imagine him not getting to Thomson despite the good record he has vs bonds it has been over a year since he has faced him - I am awaiting these lineups on the edge of my seat
FWIW only 7 of their 18 wins this month were decided by 2 or more
If looking for payout I would have gone with the -1.5 (+120 at bodog)
I need a win though not a big payout
If bonds does start though I cant imagine him not getting to Thomson despite the good record he has vs bonds it has been over a year since he has faced him - I am awaiting these lineups on the edge of my seat
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
R. Durham 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .251
M. Tucker cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .264
J.T. Snow 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .325
E. Alfonzo 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .283
A.J. Pierzynski c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .294
D. Cruz ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .304
R. Ledee rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .241
D. Mohr lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .282
N. Lowry p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Atlanta
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
R. Furcal ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .295
N. Green 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .282
J.D. Drew rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .303
J. Franco 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .300
E. Marrero lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .339
A. Jones cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .263
M. DeRosa 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .248
E. Perez c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .220
J. Thomson p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .20
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=240830115
R. Durham 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .251
M. Tucker cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .264
J.T. Snow 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .325
E. Alfonzo 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .283
A.J. Pierzynski c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .294
D. Cruz ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .304
R. Ledee rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .241
D. Mohr lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .282
N. Lowry p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Atlanta
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
R. Furcal ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .295
N. Green 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .282
J.D. Drew rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .303
J. Franco 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .300
E. Marrero lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .339
A. Jones cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .263
M. DeRosa 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .248
E. Perez c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .220
J. Thomson p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .20
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=240830115
Line on SF keeps getting better since they released lineup with Bonds out. Keep in mind Atlanta's lineup is without some regular starters, including Giles and Chipper (got slightly dinged the other night).
With an average pitcher I make be concerned, but Lowry has been lights out and in pitchers park facing Atalanta for first time I'd take the dog line.
One concern is if Tucker and Ledee will heep their horrid hitting, or do they break out against a pitcher they've done well in the past?
Dog line at +160 too good here. Might get better right before game time.
With an average pitcher I make be concerned, but Lowry has been lights out and in pitchers park facing Atalanta for first time I'd take the dog line.
One concern is if Tucker and Ledee will heep their horrid hitting, or do they break out against a pitcher they've done well in the past?
Dog line at +160 too good here. Might get better right before game time.
"Lowry has been lights out"
in lowry's last 3 games combined he has given up 19 hits, 13 runs, 2 homers, 6 walks, and to his credit 17 strikeouts,
but with an ERA of 7.16 over those three I can hardly justify the comment that he "has been lights out"
Thomson however you could make the case that he has been "lights out"
over his last 3 he has given up 15 hits and 10 runs - but only 6 of those runs were earned - and his ERA over the period is 3.0.
Not bad is it?
in lowry's last 3 games combined he has given up 19 hits, 13 runs, 2 homers, 6 walks, and to his credit 17 strikeouts,
but with an ERA of 7.16 over those three I can hardly justify the comment that he "has been lights out"
Thomson however you could make the case that he has been "lights out"
over his last 3 he has given up 15 hits and 10 runs - but only 6 of those runs were earned - and his ERA over the period is 3.0.
Not bad is it?
