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Probably not. However, you go where reality leads you.

Let me ask YOU a question, sir: if Iraq had not ignored the UN in the summer, fall and winter of 1990, and had not attacked and butchered people in Kuwait, would we be facing war right now?
 

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jazz what has Iraq done to the U.S.????????
Also what is it with you. In one instance you are pro killing and in the other your a phoney going I don't like name calling or insults on this forum in discussions. Yeah your a real sharp tack.
 
Hard to say Jazz.

Maybe. The Bush's may have found another reason to get their hands in the Iraqy oil fields.
 

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Grantt: please clarify.

General: do you seriously think that? If so, why didn't Senior do it when he was already there? Again, exactly how is the U.S. planning to pirate all of this crude, by ordering oil companies with supertankers to load it up, it's on Uncle Sam? How will that work?
 
Oil will be used as payment for our attack & rebuilding. That is a given. That is known. Who will benefit most from the Oil gained? I think we all know.
 
>get their hands in the Iraqy oil fields

Very trite and sophomoric

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Frank,

Use all the words you want, and so can any, but my opinion is simple in that we have no right to invade a country for no reason. When Iraq uses a weapon that causes harm to our country then we can do something, until then, we need to stay out of their country. Bottom line is that no matter what we accomplish in Irag, it will not stop the inevitable.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Let me ask YOU a question, sir: if Iraq had not ignored the UN in the summer, fall and winter of 1990, and had not attacked and butchered people in Kuwait, would we be facing war right now? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Quite possibly. North Korea, Iran & Syria haven't ignored UN resolutions of 1990 & they seem slated for similiar fates.
 

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General: the arguments for war have been laid out. You don't agree with them. I respect that. I, however, agree with them, I'm just too tired tonight to retype the same arguments ad infinitum. I hope you respect my right to hold my belief as well. I literally cannot believe that given what Iraq has done in the past and is refusing to do in the present is not sufficient cause, but que sera.

If we've reached a state of intransigence on the issue, then the alternative I intend to follow is one of peace.

lander: honestly, I don't know what your point is. Can you rephrase - I'll look for this in the morning, I've got to catch some zzzz'ss - thanks.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> General: the arguments for war have been laid out. You don't agree with them. I respect that. I, however, agree with them, <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Then why the hell are you here?????
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General IMO the reason why we are taking action is because for 12 years irag was supposed to disarm.There was never a peace treaty just a cease fire under the conditions of UN resolutions (17 of them).
 
Jazz, I most certainly respect your opinion. And the opinions of others as well.

Thanks for the feedback
 

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For a country, like the US; with it's high ideals of democracy for all and the great "love of due process", if we attack Iraq; without United Nations blessing--exactly how do we look to the rest of the world? We talk the talk-but walk the walk? I heard a radio announcer say yesterday that the United Nations was our (US) enemy! Very sad comment indeed.
 
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If so, why didn't Senior do it when he was already there?

Jazz, Because Bush Sr. didn't have 12 years of sanctions to fall back on. Look at the post-war contracts for corporations that are out and signed already. Doesn't it seem at bit TOO well planned out? A 'carving up', if you will?

Don't call it left or right, just good old skepticism.
 

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Look, every other country envy's America! Freedom comes at a price. If Saddam is not disarmed, your children or their children may not see their life. Weapons of mass distruction in the possesion of Saddam is unthinkable. This guy kills his own people! The FRENCH CAN GO TO HELL, LETS KILL SADDAM TAKE CARE OF BUSInESS, SO WE CAN LOOK AT DISaRMING NORTH kOREA
 

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Couldn't we just bomb France, and kill two birds with one stone???

No more French, bad for France...

No more French businesses, bad for Iraq....

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