Convention success puts Kerry ahead in polls

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John Kerry opened up a modest lead in the US presidential race yesterday after a four-day Democratic convention in which he cast himself as a cool-headed warrior.
A telephone poll published overnight gave the senator a five-percentage point advantage over President George Bush, but that poll was taken before Mr Kerry's nationally televised speech to his party on Thursday.

Early signs yesterday suggested that the 45-minute speech, which promised "a smarter, more effective war on terror", with more emphasis on diplomacy, had gone down well with its most important target audience - undecided voters.

"These undecided voters came into the convention anti-Bush, but they left pro-Kerry," said Frank Luntz, of the Luntz Research polling organisation, which conducted the survey for MSNBC television.

Mr Kerry's generally good reviews and apparent boost in the polls lifted the Democratic party's morale as the candidate and his running mate, John Edwards, launched a coast-to-coast tour of swing states, starting in Pennsylvania, in an attempt to capitalise on the post-convention glow.

They are well aware it will be the Republicans' turn, in just over a month's time, to monopolise the airwaves with their own convention in New York.

It was clear yesterday that Senator Kerry, who has a reputation of being worthy and wooden in his rhetoric, had surpassed expectations and given a stirring performance.

Even before the Democratic candidate spoke, the campaign appeared to have edged slightly ahead of President George Bush and Vice-President Dick Cheney, according to an overnight telephone poll by Zogby International.

The survey of 1001 likely voters, conducted over the four days of the convention showed the Kerry-Edwards ticket leading the Bush-Cheney one by 48 to 43 percentage points.

However, Republican critics pointed out that while Mr Kerry's speech and much of the convention dwelt on his relatively brief spell in Vietnam, it had much less to say about his 19 years in the senate.

They cite his 2002 vote to authorise Mr Bush to go to war in Iraq, and his subsequent vote against an $87bn (about £48bn) supplemental funding request for the Iraq war effort.

The New York Times agreed that as well as talking about his Vietnam days, Mr Kerry would have "to be careful to devote time to the rest of his resumé as well".

But in its editorial, the newspaper agreed with the general post-Boston consensus that: "As an introduction to the candidates, the Democratic convention, on the whole, did its job."

The final Boston roundup

Reaching hearts through tummies


Meals thought to have been served: 165,000 Cups of coffee: 75,000 Coffee: 1,080kg Chocolate bars: 8,500 Deli meat: 2,700kg Tomatoes: 540kg Shrimp: 2,250kg Beer: 3,000 cases totalling 51,300 litres Wine: 1,000 cases Clam chowder: 2,755 litres Cutlery used: 500,000 knives, forks and spoons

Biggest winner


Barack Obama Before the convention, the Illinois state legislator was best known for a name that rhymes with Osama. After possibly the best speech of the week on Tuesday, he is being talked of as a potential 2008 presidential contender

Biggest loser


Don Mischer It had all been going so well until the last minute, when the convention producer unwittingly became famous. A CNN microphone was left on when he was screaming for balloons and confetti to come down and wondering aloud to his staff: "What the fuck are you guys doing up there?"

Young Americans play Bowie


Songs played by the Democrats during the convention included No Surrender, by Bruce Springsteen, and - oddly - Young Americans, by David Bowie, which alludes to dysfunctional and disaffected youth

Ben Affleck takes the bus


Ben Affleck, a ubiquitous presence at the convention this week, plans to leave Boston by bus on Friday with the newly minted presidential nominee. He will campaign with Kerry and Edwards throughout weekend stops in Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Ohio. Kerry and Edwards plan to cover 21 states during a two-week tour by bus, boat and train
 

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Gee, I wonder if Pinny knows Kerry is leading Bush by 5% inasmuch as their line went from about even before the convention to Bush-117 and Kerry+107 today?

As I said before, the only "poll" that counts is the betting line. With that in mind, one has to ask, why is all the money going on Bush if he's behind in the medias polls? My answer, media spin because they generally all want Kerry to win!
 

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I knew Bush was in trouble because before the Kerry speech which was a winner he trailed in Misouri, Iowa, Minnesota, Ohio, Wisconsin, PA and FL - PA and Wisconsin are done - these are the swing states - who cares if he wins the uneducated rural states - he could lose the Electoral Vote by 100+ easily though the popular vote will be much closer.

Better find Osama quick.
 

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I dunno Game.

You righties haven't won since 1988.

The appearance of newsmax and Foxnews in recent times is another indicator that the right is fighting a rearguard action.

Consider yourselves fortunate that OBL gave you rednecks something to grasp at.
 

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Well, lets see now, this is a gambling site, right? It would seem logical that all you lefties who are convinced Kerry wins easy would really back up the proverbial truck on this one as you can get your man ( a lock, right?) at +107.

So instead of waxing philosophically about the merits of Kerry, just step up and put your money where your mouth is (hey, you're getting a live dog, can't get any better then that!).
 

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Speaking of the uneducated and and their are more than enough to call the American school system a disaster just by a sampling of this board.
The "bounce" Kerry gets from these polls are so one sided in their sampling its pathetic.

They end up asking democrats at an almost 2/1 rate.Thats when they ask at all if they are registered.
 
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Candidates always get a bounce from the infomerc, I mean convention; One must wait until after the GOP convention to make a bet. If I had to go one way or the other right now I'd take Bush. He's raised more money, has no huge issues other than the war and he's up against a guy who gives the impression that he's an ivory-tower dweller. If he loses this election he's a fool.
 

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