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A baseball team and the total on the same game?
An example of this is pinnacle and some others won't let you.ABC islands and some others does.
All let you make this parlay in football and basketball.
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Thats a scred shop then ! These two plays have nothing to do with the other! Find a shop that does !!Probably more than you think!!
 

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I have a few outs that lets you.And i have a few that don't.Since half of my baseball outs don't..sorta hurts my line shopping.
Why would pinnacle and some other big out don't?
 

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Most places won't let you parlay the run line and the total of the same game. But you should be able to parlay the side and the total of the same game.
 
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Be thankful they don't let you parlay. Most people lose money with parlay's anyway.
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That is a big drawback for Pinny.
I never could understand what their afraid of there.
Can't parlay a baseball side & total , pullllease, gimme a break, they assume that, that is the "pinnacle" of correlation. They will get my horse shit, & thats it for now.
 

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I don't know why they don't let you parlay total and side from same baseball game! You would think they would want to accomodate their players! But honestly their are books out their that take bases that only do it to keep their customers! There are alot of books who wish they could close up shop after Hoops till foots!Me personally I wouldn't play at a shop that doesn't accept it! I'd ask them why! They should give you an explanation if you are a steady customer!!
 

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They are called correlated parlays. Away team and over/ or home team and under. This is what these books don't want you playing. And yes there is a mathimatical advanage in playing these parlays and sharps will kill you in the long run if you take them.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by drunk:
They are called correlated parlays. Away team and over/ or home team and under. This is what these books don't want you playing. And yes there is a mathimatical advanage in playing these parlays and sharps will kill you in the long run if you take them.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe that is a function of the run line only. I may be wrong, but I don't think a regular side and total are correlated enough in general to warrant a block on action.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by drunk:
They are called correlated parlays. Away team and over/ or home team and under. This is what these books don't want you playing. And yes there is a mathimatical advanage in playing these parlays and sharps will kill you in the long run if you take them.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Pinnacle used to allow this until about a month ago, I don't even look to bet totals anywhere but Pinnacle.

There is some correlation.Take a pitcher like a Pedro, Randy, etc, say he is -200. If you want the dog, I believe it's good to parlay it over ( usually very low number ). The stud pitcher is likely to be off his game, if he loses, give up more runs than normal, thus leading to an over. I do this a lot, the payoffs are nice, you can get +400 or so in spots.
 

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Pinnacle must have run the numbers and found that there is a definite correlation between taking the home team and the under or the away team and the over. Not sure if anyone has a database to test, but it makes sense if the home team doesn't bat in the ninth when they are ahead, but do if they are behind. This must give the player a slight advantage or maybe it comes out break even so the casino can't make any money on it.
 

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posted June 18, 2004 10:44 PM
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So are you saying shops that do and EVERY LOCAL I use does are fools??

Not fools. Just square shops. The problem is they would take these plays from squares, but the software cannot give one player one play and not allow the other player. So they take it away from everyone so the sgarps don't play them.
 

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I just find it hard to believe that after all the combined years of Pinns bookmakers that they are just figuring out now that there is a correlation.I don't know exactly but my guess is the edge to that parlay is very minimal.As a matter of fact there is still a book in Vegas that excepts RL w/totals of the same game to be parlayed.If you can still get that bet down in vegas imo then edge is minimal.However I just can't think of a reason right now why they would not want to take them.
 

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Great stuff Drunk.

On the $$$$$ as usual.
 

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I explain and still get bashed to a degree. Unreal. If you fools can't figure out the advantage, i am sure not expaining it to you.

Thanks Lander
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