Fellas calm down i think you have drank enough tonight. Now, just remember what you have said, soo when the Lakers come back (heaven for bid as i am cheering for the pistons) and win 4-3 you guys dont look soo foolish. I must say that the Pistons are better than what i thought, but i think the East is awful compared to the West.Facts are facts, now wait until this time Tues.nite to chirp a little louder, lets hope.
Mighty
Mighty
Lakers would be small edge over Indy & NJ, but would absolutely pistol-whip the Heat, whom like LA are basically a two man show..with better 3 man filler on the floor.
The Heat along with Nets should really try to make a run at R Wallace in the offseason, as Sheed gets primo weed for life after his upcoming payday.
LA needs to trade entire draft and Fisher or Rush to get Baron Davis, and then also make a run on one of the Mavs 6 thru 10 bench players..a scoring forward.
P.S. Minny despite being a great team, was just a bad matchup for LA, had yet to go far into playoffs, were thin at all spots on the floor & on the blocks.
The Wolves need to beef up on Defense, as they were exposed by Sacto going into the Laker series, an assist goes to Sacto for exposing and putting the fatigue in the Minny bones.
The Heat along with Nets should really try to make a run at R Wallace in the offseason, as Sheed gets primo weed for life after his upcoming payday.
LA needs to trade entire draft and Fisher or Rush to get Baron Davis, and then also make a run on one of the Mavs 6 thru 10 bench players..a scoring forward.
P.S. Minny despite being a great team, was just a bad matchup for LA, had yet to go far into playoffs, were thin at all spots on the floor & on the blocks.
The Wolves need to beef up on Defense, as they were exposed by Sacto going into the Laker series, an assist goes to Sacto for exposing and putting the fatigue in the Minny bones.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horseshoe:
The Heat along with Nets should really try to make a run at R Wallace in the offseason, as Sheed gets primo weed for life after his upcoming payday.
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Easier said than done. Heat have three big contracts:
Eddie Jones
Brian Grant
Lamar Odom
They might be able to move Jones or Grant, but they certainly won't get fair-value for them.
The Heat along with Nets should really try to make a run at R Wallace in the offseason, as Sheed gets primo weed for life after his upcoming payday.
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Easier said than done. Heat have three big contracts:
Eddie Jones
Brian Grant
Lamar Odom
They might be able to move Jones or Grant, but they certainly won't get fair-value for them.
There are countless numbers of gamblers in the poorhouse today because they underestimate the importance of DEFENSE. The East has been ridiculed forever for their low scoring games, but we are now seeing WHY they are low scoring.
At least 90% of the posters on this board and just about 100% of the so called "experts" in the media gave the Pistons no chance in this series. I just want to thank you all for driving the line on Det up to +1050 for me. Ch...Ching.
At least 90% of the posters on this board and just about 100% of the so called "experts" in the media gave the Pistons no chance in this series. I just want to thank you all for driving the line on Det up to +1050 for me. Ch...Ching.
Who the hell is going to trade for Rush? I don't think the Lakers could give him away, the only thing he does is shoot open 3s and at times makes them. He is the poster child for how bad the Lakers are getting, contributions from him and Walton have been the fumes they have been living on. Put him almost anywhere else and he will be as effective as Tyronne Lue is away from the Lakers.
I was searching for NBA contract info (I wanted to double-check the length of the Jones/Grant contracts), and I stumbled upon Cleveland's contracts.
Did you know that Jim Paxson got a promotion after LeBron was drafted?
This is the same guy who drafted DeSagana Flop.
This is the same guy who gave 5-year/$15 million contracts to Ira Newble *and* Kevin Ollie. Given the current salary-cap, these are TERRIBLE contracts. Why the hell would you sign bench-players to 5-year deals?
This is the same guy who drafted Trajan Langdon. FYI, Langdon is no longer in the NBA.
This is the same guy who drafted Jamal Crawford and then traded him for Chris Mihm.
I'll give Paxson credit, Carlos Boozer was a steal. However, Paxson also took Dajuan Wagner with the 6th overall pick in that draft. Players picked after Wagner include:
Nene (#7)
Amare Stoudemire (#9)
Caron Butler (#10)
But Paxson got a promotion because some ping-pongs ball bounced in his favor?
I think lots of jobs are like this. Promotions aren't always awarded based on merit. They're sometimes awarded based on being in the right place @ the right time.
Paxson's promotion also supports my theory that the Cavs tanked the 2002-03 season in order to increase their odds of winning the LeBron lottery. Once the Cavs won the lottery, Gordon Gund gave Paxson a promotion in order to "reward" him for assembling a crappy team.
Did you know that Jim Paxson got a promotion after LeBron was drafted?
This is the same guy who drafted DeSagana Flop.
This is the same guy who gave 5-year/$15 million contracts to Ira Newble *and* Kevin Ollie. Given the current salary-cap, these are TERRIBLE contracts. Why the hell would you sign bench-players to 5-year deals?
This is the same guy who drafted Trajan Langdon. FYI, Langdon is no longer in the NBA.
This is the same guy who drafted Jamal Crawford and then traded him for Chris Mihm.
I'll give Paxson credit, Carlos Boozer was a steal. However, Paxson also took Dajuan Wagner with the 6th overall pick in that draft. Players picked after Wagner include:
Nene (#7)
Amare Stoudemire (#9)
Caron Butler (#10)
But Paxson got a promotion because some ping-pongs ball bounced in his favor?
I think lots of jobs are like this. Promotions aren't always awarded based on merit. They're sometimes awarded based on being in the right place @ the right time.
Paxson's promotion also supports my theory that the Cavs tanked the 2002-03 season in order to increase their odds of winning the LeBron lottery. Once the Cavs won the lottery, Gordon Gund gave Paxson a promotion in order to "reward" him for assembling a crappy team.
WB I don't dispute that, but the idiots that run both the Lakers and the Hornets may be able to work a deal..Fisher & Medvedenko & 1st two rounds picks for a suspect knee Baron Davis?
When healthy he could shoot from key, allow Kobe to roam off picks, penetrate to rack or drive and dish to Shaq when all else breaks down.
a Baron Davis type, then add a consistent PF are big needs for a team like LA.
Grant is done/dead weight at this juncture..teams wouldn't take him for free with his contract, Eddie Jones may be able to be moved..Odom is a rising star & needs to be developed further..the beefed-up Odom and star that is Wade are something to build from!
When healthy he could shoot from key, allow Kobe to roam off picks, penetrate to rack or drive and dish to Shaq when all else breaks down.
a Baron Davis type, then add a consistent PF are big needs for a team like LA.
Grant is done/dead weight at this juncture..teams wouldn't take him for free with his contract, Eddie Jones may be able to be moved..Odom is a rising star & needs to be developed further..the beefed-up Odom and star that is Wade are something to build from!
Baron won't be moved without a bona fide player in return because that team isn't going to win 20 games if they didn't have a starter to take Baron's place. Lakers will have to hope for another charity contract deal with someone like they got this year with the old guys. Besides they won't have any time to do anything until the determine if Kobe is back. Realistically I think the calls for the end of the dynasty are probably correct. LA has a few years of goodwill to fill the building. Shaq will still be around and he alone can make teams competitive. But if Kobe wants to go then by all means they ought to play out the string for a little bit and take some weak seasons with an eye towards rebuilding a team for the future, one that probably won't get going until after Shaq retires.
He is beginning to age, has up-and-down knee/hip the last few years, and with the Hornets moving West, NO needs to scrap the entire team while getting younger, as their superstar will not want to linger on team in transition.
Davis and some of the Mavericks spare Forwards must be moved in the next year, they're expensive, getting older, and bringing diminishing returns..yet would fit with LA's style of ball.
LA could trade late 1st & 2nd rounders along with Fisher and Medvedenko to get a decent player.
Davis or a Cuttino Mobley can make the arc shots that LA needs to help Kobe and Shaq's games.
I'm a Sixer fan, I could care less if LA and Mitch Kuptchack ever get smart to actually helping the league's two dominant players stay in title chases.
It borders on fraud to start with the two biggest starting blocks to dominating in the NBA, then to use has beens and CBA players to fill in around them.
The NBA has been so awful for so long that only good/not great teams in Portland and Sacto came close to beating LA the last 5 years, but finally some teams are getting firmed up and the gap has closed..not having Jerry West in the office is showing!
Davis and some of the Mavericks spare Forwards must be moved in the next year, they're expensive, getting older, and bringing diminishing returns..yet would fit with LA's style of ball.
LA could trade late 1st & 2nd rounders along with Fisher and Medvedenko to get a decent player.
Davis or a Cuttino Mobley can make the arc shots that LA needs to help Kobe and Shaq's games.
I'm a Sixer fan, I could care less if LA and Mitch Kuptchack ever get smart to actually helping the league's two dominant players stay in title chases.
It borders on fraud to start with the two biggest starting blocks to dominating in the NBA, then to use has beens and CBA players to fill in around them.
The NBA has been so awful for so long that only good/not great teams in Portland and Sacto came close to beating LA the last 5 years, but finally some teams are getting firmed up and the gap has closed..not having Jerry West in the office is showing!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The MD Kid:
There are countless numbers of gamblers in the poorhouse today because they underestimate the importance of DEFENSE. The East has been ridiculed forever for their low scoring games, but we are now seeing WHY they are low scoring.
At least 90% of the posters on this board and just about 100% of the so called "experts" in the media gave the Pistons no chance in this series. I just want to thank you all for driving the line on Det up to +1050 for me. Ch...Ching.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ok please inform us how many teams from the east have won titles in the last # of years?
There are countless numbers of gamblers in the poorhouse today because they underestimate the importance of DEFENSE. The East has been ridiculed forever for their low scoring games, but we are now seeing WHY they are low scoring.
At least 90% of the posters on this board and just about 100% of the so called "experts" in the media gave the Pistons no chance in this series. I just want to thank you all for driving the line on Det up to +1050 for me. Ch...Ching.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ok please inform us how many teams from the east have won titles in the last # of years?
Lets see even if Detroit happens to win the title, to knock the West like The MD Kid did just shows how clueless he & others who think like him are.
Since the 90-91 season, only ONE team from the east won the title & that was the Bulls which won 6 titles because of MJ. The east has done shit against the west & even with the East most likely winning this title, the Western Conference is clearly the BEST conference.
Since the 90-91 season, only ONE team from the east won the title & that was the Bulls which won 6 titles because of MJ. The east has done shit against the west & even with the East most likely winning this title, the Western Conference is clearly the BEST conference.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Ok please inform us how many teams from the east have won titles in the last # of years?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hmmmm ... Ok, since 1988-89, the East has won 8 titles and the West 7. Yeah, that's pure domination there!!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Since the 90-91 season, only ONE team from the east won the title & that was the Bulls which won 6 titles because of MJ. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Jeez, what a lame argument. Who's to say that whoever was 2nd in the East all those years wouldn't have won the title if it weren't for MJ? And for THAT matter, I could use the same argument that the WEST wouldn't have won any titles if it weren't for Shaq, Duncan, and Akeem!!!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Lets see even if Detroit happens to win the title, to knock the West like The MD Kid did just shows how clueless he & others who think like him are.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
My remarks about the West were anything but clueless. Despite my comments, I don't for a minute equate the West with the WNBA. My remarks were a tongue in cheek retaliation for the non-stop ridicule the East has recieved for what seems like forever. I realize that top to bottom the west probably IS still the best conference, but this series is showing that the disparity is nowhere near as great as nearly everyone makes it out to be. Bottom line is that the price on the Pistons before the series was ridiculous, and that's all I was trying to point out. If it is clueless to recognize and point out value, then I hope I continue to be clueless for the forseeable future.
Incidentally, the Pistons don't have to win this series to prove me right. All I stated was that before this series began, there was tremendous value on the Pistons at the inflated line. There is now some value on the Lakers at +390, IMO. If you still truly believe that the Western Conference is the dominant conference, and that the Lakers are the better team, then here's my suggestion for ya - put some cash down on them at this price instead of coming on here and bashing those of us that had it right from the beginning.
Hmmmm ... Ok, since 1988-89, the East has won 8 titles and the West 7. Yeah, that's pure domination there!!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Since the 90-91 season, only ONE team from the east won the title & that was the Bulls which won 6 titles because of MJ. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Jeez, what a lame argument. Who's to say that whoever was 2nd in the East all those years wouldn't have won the title if it weren't for MJ? And for THAT matter, I could use the same argument that the WEST wouldn't have won any titles if it weren't for Shaq, Duncan, and Akeem!!!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Lets see even if Detroit happens to win the title, to knock the West like The MD Kid did just shows how clueless he & others who think like him are.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
My remarks about the West were anything but clueless. Despite my comments, I don't for a minute equate the West with the WNBA. My remarks were a tongue in cheek retaliation for the non-stop ridicule the East has recieved for what seems like forever. I realize that top to bottom the west probably IS still the best conference, but this series is showing that the disparity is nowhere near as great as nearly everyone makes it out to be. Bottom line is that the price on the Pistons before the series was ridiculous, and that's all I was trying to point out. If it is clueless to recognize and point out value, then I hope I continue to be clueless for the forseeable future.
Incidentally, the Pistons don't have to win this series to prove me right. All I stated was that before this series began, there was tremendous value on the Pistons at the inflated line. There is now some value on the Lakers at +390, IMO. If you still truly believe that the Western Conference is the dominant conference, and that the Lakers are the better team, then here's my suggestion for ya - put some cash down on them at this price instead of coming on here and bashing those of us that had it right from the beginning.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wilheim:
Not to mention the Miami Heat who would have been competitive against what is a team with only 2 real NBA players, and a group of has beens and never will be's.
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Minor overstatement, but WTF.
Not to mention the Miami Heat who would have been competitive against what is a team with only 2 real NBA players, and a group of has beens and never will be's.
wil.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Minor overstatement, but WTF.
