i dont know if anyone caught it, but ABC had a great computer animated graphic that showed CLEARLY that the puck wasnt completely across the red line....i would like to add that i do not know all the rules in hockey...but from what the analysts said the puck has to be COMPLETELY across...if this is indeed so...i believe the NHL and refs got it right.....and this is coming from a completely biases dallas stars fan....
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nanners:
i dont know if anyone caught it, but ABC had a great computer animated graphic that showed CLEARLY that the puck wasnt completely across the red line....i would like to add that i do not know all the rules in hockey...but from what the analysts said the puck has to be COMPLETELY across...if this is indeed so...i believe the NHL and refs got it right.....and this is coming from a completely biases dallas stars fan....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
THANK YOU!!!!!
i dont know if anyone caught it, but ABC had a great computer animated graphic that showed CLEARLY that the puck wasnt completely across the red line....i would like to add that i do not know all the rules in hockey...but from what the analysts said the puck has to be COMPLETELY across...if this is indeed so...i believe the NHL and refs got it right.....and this is coming from a completely biases dallas stars fan....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
THANK YOU!!!!!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nanners:
i dont know if anyone caught it, but ABC had a great computer animated graphic that showed CLEARLY that the puck wasnt completely across the red line....i would like to add that i do not know all the rules in hockey...but from what the analysts said the puck has to be COMPLETELY across...if this is indeed so...i believe the NHL and refs got it right.....and this is coming from a completely biases dallas stars fan....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Bullshit because ABC showed the angles where the puck was clearly in & the announcers including JD said it was in.
i dont know if anyone caught it, but ABC had a great computer animated graphic that showed CLEARLY that the puck wasnt completely across the red line....i would like to add that i do not know all the rules in hockey...but from what the analysts said the puck has to be COMPLETELY across...if this is indeed so...i believe the NHL and refs got it right.....and this is coming from a completely biases dallas stars fan....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Bullshit because ABC showed the angles where the puck was clearly in & the announcers including JD said it was in.
agreed that the A PORTION of the puck was across the red line...but the analysts on ABC stated that the NHL got it right b/c the puck did not COMPLETELY cross the red line....ill reiterate im unsure of the rules regarding this...but the analysts, again, clearly stated the puck had to fully cross the line and it did not....
well i saw a computer animated and enhanced graphic that aired on ABC on national television during prime time coverage of game 7 of the stanley cup finals between the tampa bay lightning and the calgary flames....and i saw with my own 2 eyes that the puck was not completely across the line....not sure which graphic you are referring but im sure others can vouch for the one in which i am
but regardless of any opinion on this...bottomline is the flames had another chance....game 7 for all the marbles and were out played until half-way through the 3rd period
again...im a dallas stars fan and couldnt care less who won...i just wanted to see a competitive and hard fought series...both teams played valiantly....you just gotta tip your hat to the lightning for finding a way to get it done at home....if the game was reversed and played in calgary last night with the flames coming out on top...im sure we would have seen and read similar comments/threads from the lightning fans...JMO
but regardless of any opinion on this...bottomline is the flames had another chance....game 7 for all the marbles and were out played until half-way through the 3rd period
again...im a dallas stars fan and couldnt care less who won...i just wanted to see a competitive and hard fought series...both teams played valiantly....you just gotta tip your hat to the lightning for finding a way to get it done at home....if the game was reversed and played in calgary last night with the flames coming out on top...im sure we would have seen and read similar comments/threads from the lightning fans...JMO
I'm not a fan of either team. I just don't like unfairness. I as well as many others feel game 7 should have never taken place. Even with the major screw up in game 6 as far as the puck being in the net, the officiating was horrible in this series.
Sutter is a pretty good guy & wouldn't just come out & say he felt the NHL was trying to screw his team for nothing. The man saw the absolutely horrific officiating in the series.
The NHL should have put legally blind people out there as they would have done a better job.
Sutter is a pretty good guy & wouldn't just come out & say he felt the NHL was trying to screw his team for nothing. The man saw the absolutely horrific officiating in the series.
The NHL should have put legally blind people out there as they would have done a better job.
speaking candidly...
last time i checked there wasnt an asterik by the names of all the dallas stars' players on the stanley cup....a win is a win
as a fellow gambler you should be able to relate...remember those back door covers that went your way -- could be called tainted or how those bad beats we have all suffered -- also could be called tainted....win is a win...period
last time i checked there wasnt an asterik by the names of all the dallas stars' players on the stanley cup....a win is a win
as a fellow gambler you should be able to relate...remember those back door covers that went your way -- could be called tainted or how those bad beats we have all suffered -- also could be called tainted....win is a win...period
I dont know how many times i saw the replay down here in a canadian channel, i think it was CTV or anyhow channel 13 in montreal and ill tell you that it was clearly in from any angle they pointed it on slow motion, its just too bad they didnt go upstairs in the cameras cause the cup would of been in Canadian soil
To say it was clearly in from any angle is total crap. The only angle you can clearly see if it is in or not is directly overhead and that angle was never shown. Blame the Calgary Saddle-dome for not having an overhead camera, not the NHL.
I saw the ABC graphic as well and it clearly showed no goal.
I saw the ABC graphic as well and it clearly showed no goal.
would a computer graphic animation be more reliable than the actual photo above of the puck all the way in?? You guys slay me, the only reason sports can get away with fixes like this is that there are enough rubes out there who would tell you the sky is green if ABC put out a "computer graphic showing it's true".
I didn't see any ABC graphic or any Canadian TV shots but I was watching game 6 and heard that "the shot" (the one that started this thread) was the only angle they had and if that's the case, although it LOOKS in, it is in fact, inconclusive and most likely not in all the way.
The mistake your making is using a two dimensional picture to prove a 3 dimensional point. If the puck was flush against the ice you'd have a great point but it appears to be on end and possibly a few inches above the ice. If it was off the ice, the puck could be directly over the goal line and in would appear over because the camera angle is from the front of the net, not directly overhead.
There are plenty of examples of this. It's a matter of the depth of field for the camera angle in question. It doesn't prove conclusively that the puck wasn't over, but it doesn't prove it was either which makes it inconclusive.
The mistake your making is using a two dimensional picture to prove a 3 dimensional point. If the puck was flush against the ice you'd have a great point but it appears to be on end and possibly a few inches above the ice. If it was off the ice, the puck could be directly over the goal line and in would appear over because the camera angle is from the front of the net, not directly overhead.
There are plenty of examples of this. It's a matter of the depth of field for the camera angle in question. It doesn't prove conclusively that the puck wasn't over, but it doesn't prove it was either which makes it inconclusive.
You guys think this picture shows the puck across the line??? Do you all get fooled by angles this easily? The view that counts is the one that runs right along the red line. The question is at the furthest point in, on the pad, was it across. I don't know if this is really the furthest point in, but if it was then this is not completely across, but only about half the puck is across the line here. If you don't believe me, do a simple 2 minute experiment at home simulating the picture above. If you put the puck completely across the line and look at it from this angle in the picture, the puck will appear far across the line, essentially about where the toe of the pad is.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WildBill:
You guys think this picture shows the puck across the line??? Do you all get fooled by angles this easily? The view that counts is the one that runs right along the red line. The question is at the furthest point in, on the pad, was it across. I don't know if this is really the furthest point in, but if it was then this is not completely across, but only about half the puck is across the line here. If you don't believe me, do a simple 2 minute experiment at home simulating the picture above. If you put the puck completely across the line and look at it from this angle in the picture, the puck will appear far across the line, essentially about where the toe of the pad is.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
EXACTLY
EXACTLY
EXACTLY!!!!
Had to show my friends at the bar that same experiment last night.
They finally got it through their heads and agreed.
You guys think this picture shows the puck across the line??? Do you all get fooled by angles this easily? The view that counts is the one that runs right along the red line. The question is at the furthest point in, on the pad, was it across. I don't know if this is really the furthest point in, but if it was then this is not completely across, but only about half the puck is across the line here. If you don't believe me, do a simple 2 minute experiment at home simulating the picture above. If you put the puck completely across the line and look at it from this angle in the picture, the puck will appear far across the line, essentially about where the toe of the pad is.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
EXACTLY
EXACTLY
EXACTLY!!!!
Had to show my friends at the bar that same experiment last night.
They finally got it through their heads and agreed.
