If a book boots you for winning, is it unethical to come back under an alias?

Journeyman · Jun 1, 2004

If only the books I beat could see some of the one`s I have lost too lol, my recent hot streak has put me on the sideline at a fairly well known book I had no idea they booted players...a book I really like because there is NEVER a problem at, but I am now no longer welcome to wager there...

The book I am referring to is one that you don`t see advertising on the forums but is fairly well known.

Thanks

THE SHRINK · Jun 1, 2004

Good question...

I plead the fifth personally...

TheGeneral+ · Jun 1, 2004

Deception is unethical.

ethan · Jun 1, 2004

Isn't that illegal when the $$ comes full circle?

THE SHRINK · Jun 1, 2004

General,

Do you think that bookmakers can be deceptive?

TheGeneral+ · Jun 1, 2004

I think many bookmakers are very deceptive, but we do not have to follow their lead.

Journeyman · Jun 1, 2004

playing someone else`s picks too?

- I called the book an inquired as if I were a new customer , I asked specifically "do you boot winners"? ...Answer *NEVER*

seems deceptive if you asked me

Journeyman · Jun 1, 2004

playing someone else`s picks too?

- I called the book an inquired as if I were a new customer , I asked specifically "do you boot winners"? ...Answer *NEVER*

seems deceptive if you asked me

BoratSagdiyev · Jun 1, 2004

C'mon Journey tell us who it is.

TheGeneral+ · Jun 1, 2004

It all comes down to integrity in my book. If I treated everyone crappy or deceived everyone that have deceived/crapped on me, then I would be a scumbag myself.

Dante · Jun 1, 2004

I would think it is unethical...plus how would you cash out of a book if you came in under a different name...you could get a check with the name jack black but your name is John harris??

not right and should not be done IMO

Journeyman · Jun 1, 2004

this is a little different...

I must be doing some stuff right like the old days, as I just checked another account and have been put on a 'once a month free neteller' ....lol whatever!!

Anyway I am 80% back to my personal high water mark...time to take the air out of the ball for a few weeks, I have learned to pick and choose my spots...

Journeyman, OUT!

THE SHRINK · Jun 1, 2004

DENNY CRANE

Journeyman · Jun 1, 2004

For the most part that is true...

I don`t even ask for a bonus EVER...I use to get my customary start of season bonuses, but over the past two years I have not bothered to even ask...even when I am entitled to them

I admit back in the early days of sportsbooks, I use to be a bonus whore, but in all honesty I didn`t know any better

...the banking system was a little different too, say 6-7 years ago you could deposit any name in your account and sign a check over to you...

...what makes me mad about the whole thing is I really like this book, possibly my favorite book....

dirtyratchafratchit!*%^$^EW$)*&

SHAWN GOTTI · Jun 1, 2004

all is fair in love and war and sports gambling!!

marc · Jun 1, 2004

As a general rule, I don't have a problem with somepone using aliases if you are a post up customer. It doens't make sense to me that I should have to give an offshore bookie my real name, number, money, while the bookie won't even give me his real name. But that aside, just understand, that in the unlikely event the book catches you, since they asked you to leave and not come back, i would think they would have the right to void all your bets

peskypup · Jun 1, 2004

The business of a bookmaker is to accept bets. If they post up on their website words to the effect:

"Winning customers are not welcome at this book"

that is fair enough. If not - if as in the case of many they infer that ALL new customers are welcome - then they are fair game.

I am quite happy to put on my bets under my wife or friends' cards at books which have given me silly limits like $50. I see no ethical problem here whatsoever, since at all books which limit me I ask them for a $300 limit.

Some say fine $300 it is then. In these cases I do not open up any other accounts. Those who say "No it is $50 tough luck" I have no hesitation in signing up under someone else's name.

I say "You started the monkey business, so tough luck" to such books. So far none have accused my friends of being me in disguise.

Horses · Jun 1, 2004

General congratulations for having parents that taught you right from wrong.

Can rationalize forever,

bottomline is it is 10000% FRAUD.

I believe in property rights and that a business owner has the right to refuse anyone's business for any reason.

All the people that think it OK, be the first to cry when they get a fraud perpetrated on them.

-Slim- · Jun 1, 2004

Of course its unethical. This is a business, books are not here to baby sit anyone. If they kick you out, take your money and go elsewhere.... If you're looking for trouble, go back in with a different name but dont be surprised if they "dont like it" and dont bitch either when they "do something about it".

DickyW · Jun 1, 2004

Peskypup

The forum should be very proud of your successful fraud scheme, congrats on the good work. Be sure to teach your children your same deceptive habits so they will grow up to be lieing cheats like you. I do have to give you credit you atleast have the balls to admitt your scum.

And exactly what type of so called "monkey business" did these books start? You funded an account with them, you won alot of money from them. They decide to cut your limits but will still allow you a free 50 dollar bill when the opportunity is there. What type of monkey business are you talking bout?