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Have a good friend who has friends that do business with SBG GLOBAL.

I have never played with them personally due to the negative reports I personally have heard on them in the past.

What I would like is for as many of you to give your own personal experiences with this book, be it good or bad.

Thank you very much for your time, I trully appreciate it.

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I played there many years ago.....one of my first shops. Was a smaller player then, but I did cash out about five times for between 300-500 with no problems.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by peteep:
I played there many years ago.....one of my first shops. Was a smaller player then, but I did cash out about five times for between 300-500 with no problems.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I had this same experience about 5 yrs ago.. except only one small payout..never had problems but im a very small player
 

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as much as all the people around here thrash touts how could you do business with a book that is in cahoots with many touts? SBG combined with the touts in Florida to extort millions from players all over.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JohnnyDeMarco:
as much as all the people around here thrash touts how could you do business with a book that is in cahoots with many touts? SBG combined with the touts in Florida to extort millions from players all over.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can you or anybody else give more details on this?
 
johnny,you know all about touts
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How many times you ever called me? Come on! admit it! I got you at least once.

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There was a thread here a couple weeks ago about some guys down in Florida who were in cahoots with SBG global that got busted by the feds for just about everything. If you remember the thread asked if I knew these guys.
 
yes you did get me once
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i have great memories of calling the coast to coast scorephone with my life on the line waiting for some score and having to hear you scream about jack and some lock for 5 minutes,and of course when you got around to my game you were always a jinx
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> and of course when you got around to my game you were always a jinx <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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I've played at SBG Global mainly in the last 6 months, and I've been surprisingly pleased after all the negative press. I hit them for a solid 4 figure payout (5 or 6K profit) and they paid fast by Fedex. And I even got a reload bonus. Blew out that last amount and figuring to reload soon.

Main drawback is 5% fee for regular Neteller deposits comes off the bonus. Also don't let you do Moneylines for the rollover. If you're not into parlays and you're a medium sized player, this is a good out. I got up to 3K on one click on the internet on NHL before they cut my limits to 1K.
 

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I will say first that I played wih SBG for a while and did not have any direct problems with them -- this was a high-four, low-five-figure account.

I will also add though that I have no doubt that they were at least to some degree involved with tout services, specifically with "Mario Petriano" and his ass-buddy "The Duke" up in Maryland. The breathtaking awfulness of these guys' picks could only be matched by the shrillness of their pimping for SBG. This might have only been a fairly typical kickback on losses arrangement, but for a while there SBG had a banner of Mario's on their front page and up until very recently featured them on their link page, along with a couple of other tout services.


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FISHHEAD,

Please note the paragraph in the first story that refers to what Johnny D. was talkin' bout:


"The businesses provided betting advice for gamblers and referred them to offshore betting parlors, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office, and the businesses would receive kickbacks from the parlors."



Federal officials arrest at least 12 accused in gambling scam

an Associated Press report 4/09/04

FORT MYERS, FLORIDA - Federal authorities said they have busted a betting ring that scammed millions of dollars from gamblers across the country.

At least a dozen men were arrested Thursday and face federal charges of conspiracy to transmit wagering information by interstate and foreign wire and conspiracy to operate an illegal gambling enterprise.

If convicted, they face up to five years in prison and a fine of $250,000.

Authorities said they ran the scam under three different businesses in the Fort Myers area, Player's Edge Inc., National Sports Consultants Inc. and Nationwide Sports Inc.

The businesses provided betting advice for gamblers and referred them to offshore betting parlors, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office, and the businesses would receive kickbacks from the parlors.

Among those arrested were: John R. Rodney Jr., who ran Player's Edge from 1993 to 2003; Robert Robitzek and Joseph DiLorenzo, who ran National Sports Consultants; and Nicholas DelNegro, who ran Nationwide Sports.

California attorney Ron Blumberg said many of the victims he has spoken with claim they were offered "insider" or "special" information on sports games. Blumberg said promises were made guaranteeing results, but patrons lost money while betting on games and paying for the betting advice.

Blumberg has set up a Web site to contact victims. He said 18 people have come forward claiming losses ranging from a few hundred dollars to "in excess of six figures."

Blumberg said he is collecting victims' names and information for a possible class-action civil suit against National Sports Consultants.



Here's another story that involved the National Sports Consultants from four months prior to the arrests:



Man settles with sports handicappers

Player says he lost nearly $2.3 million in dealings

By MIKE HOYEM
Published by news-press.com on December 27, 2003



A California man has settled a lawsuit he filed against a Fort Myers-based sports handicapping business he says scammed him out of more than $2 million.

But Timothy Edwin Bronkhurst, 49, of Carlsbad said Friday the settlement he agreed to about 10 days ago doesn't compensate him for anywhere near the $2.3 million he lost in his dealings with Player's Edge Inc. and National Sports Consultants Inc.

"I lost millions with these guys," Bronkhurst said. "Thank God I'm almost 50 years old and had a lot of money still. I'm glad we collected what we did."

According to the suit, which was filed Nov. 25 in U.S. District Court in Fort Myers, Bronkhurst got involved with a pair of companies that advertised nationally they could guarantee big profits for gamblers because they had "inside information" on sporting events.

The suit claimed the companies actually are "scamdicappers" instead of handicappers and use high-pressure sales techniques to squeeze money out of those who call their toll-free phone numbers.

The suit said Player's Edge operated from about December 1994 until May 2003, when it was sold to National Sports Consultants.

Both businesses, according to the suit, operated in essentially the same manner by luring gamblers with national radio advertisements that promise earnings so quickly that the money spent is more of an investment than a gamble.

"This is about getting inside information,? the ads say. "We have contacts everywhere."

According to the suit, the companies make their money by charging "package fees" for inside information and allegedly by getting kickbacks from the offshore sports bookies that take the bets. The suit said Player's Edge was run by John J. Rodney Jr., who used the names "Brian Edwards" and "Dan "The Man" Wilson" in radio ads.

Rodney, the suit alleged, sold his interest in Player's Edge in May to National Sports Consultants' owner Robert Robitzek, who calls himself "Mike Gibson" in radio spots.

Also named as defendants were a dozen other people who own at least 11 other corporations allegedly tied to the operation.

According to state Division of Corporations records, Player's Edge and National Sports Consultants list their addresses as a pair of strip malls in south Fort Myers: the Island Park Shopping Center at 16520 S. Tamiami Trail and the Summerlin Crossings shopping center at 15880 Summerlin Road.

The News-Press tried contacting National Sports Consultants on Friday by calling the company's 1-800 number.

At first, a man who said he was Mike Gibson answered and said he would give no details on the settlement.

"Why should I?" he asked.

A subsequent call was answered by a man who said his name was Jimmy Rogers.

'We have nothing to say about that," he said of the settlement. "No comment."

The suit claimed the companies have had more than 7,000 "customers/victims" since 2000 who initially are given free tips.

The handicappers, according to the suit, don't have any inside track on betting and instead "simply take their best guesses" based on public information.

According to the suit, Bronkhurst sold a business in 1998 and was looking for ways to invest his money when the stock market took a downturn.

After hearing the radio ads and visiting the Player's Edge Web site, Bronkhurst was impressed and decided to invest.

Bronkhurst started with $100,000, the suit said, and soon was depositing $55,000 to $900,000 at a time into the Player's Edge bank account.

The wagers listed in the suit said Bronkhurst placed 76 bets from Feb. 26 to May 17 and lost 56 times.

Bronkhurst said the vast majority of the money he lost was for inside information as opposed to actual bets.

"They really nailed me to the wall, these guys," Bronkhurst said.

"It's a lesson I'll take with me to the grave."

________________________________________________________________________ We have heard the National Sports Consultants radio show many times on Saturday mornings. They are somewhat convincing. They promise to make you $35,000 in one week! They talk down to their listeners basically saying you are an idiot not to "invest" your money with them. Like most sports services, they only talk about their victories, never their losses. ________________________________________________________________________

from: http://www.vegassportsauthority.com/scam_handicappers
 

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If a tout takes a kickback on losses from a Sportsbook they are guilty of bookamking plain and simple. A federal 1084 violation.

If a book takes a referrral from a tout just so a player has a place to play that is okay.
If a book pays the tout for the player either flat fee or a percentage of losses it is illegal.
 

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Although SBG does give kickbacks to sports srvices on a players losses the sportsbooks involved in the John Rodney Jr, Players Edge case were Five Card Charlie's and Fairdeal.
 

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