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Boys move this to Nascar when you see fit.


Had the bets down. Had the printouts of teams from our Nascar contest handy. I was good to go. Nascar wasn't. For the second time this year [the first being Vegas], yesterday I dozed off on the living room couch for 40 or 50 laps. Wait till one groove Chicagoland.

Bristol, Rockingham, Darlington, Martinsville: they all had me a whoopin' and a hollerin' while sitting on the edge of the same couch.

Now another of the ubiquitous new cookie cutter super speedways was the center of our Sunday attention. This one was just outside of LA where ironically enough a stuntman field filler walking away from a shunt with a padded wall was the one break from what prooved to be the center of our Sunday boredom.

The stands were packed though and the 90210 crowd basked in 99 degree heat. This is new, trendy and cool in some respects at least for now. This new LA fad is just that...but they will find it boring soon enough because say what you will, it is boring not to mention too hot in the desert. And everyone will find it boring soon enough if not already. And just to make sure, we give them Darlington Labor Day at the same venue so that everyone OD's on boredom.

Nascar and Madison Avenue greed is running in what best can be described as the baseball 70's and the days of the cookie cutter, carpeted, Coliseums where only the team uniforms belied their locale and which almost ruined the game. Not coincidentally in our analogy, this was the decade of Wayne Garland's $1,000,000 contract which in 1976 was nothing more than a harbinger of lunacy. That game had already begun to lose popularity for quite some time. The astroturf game had already turned off purists. But baseball scoffed. This new racing is turning off purists. But Nascar scoffs.

We have a track in the Southeast where a railroad running throuh the neighboring hills causes the track layout to be unique and racing to be exciting. We had ballparks where outfield dimensions were determined by the block of city real estate and the configuration of those parks was based on the direction of bordering streets. The couple of those remaining are now our most cherished playing fields. Now every city is attemting to replicate those unique playing fields but only after blowing up the bowl shaped disasters.

Here is Nascar's future as I see it.

It won't go back to running at the old hallowed tracks of the Southeast. Maybe many years from now and maybe not so many, but it will eventually run at newly built tracks which will be the Camden Yard's, PNC's, Pac Bells etc, etc and etc. Boring racing will only go so far. These new venues will be built as shrines to the roots of the sport. These tracks will differ in size, banking, layout and such. They will perhaps offer artificial yet cleverly designed symbols, billboards, what have you bringing a touch or some connection to where this all came from. A working still on site would appeal to me.

Nascar will learn the hard way. My friends who think I'm nuts yelling for 4 hours at rednecks [well OK, but there's still Sterling Marlin and JR.] making left turns may be right. The sport is turning it's back on the good ole boys in North Carolina and other Thunder Road locales. Reckon thats OK though cause there's damn better racing on Saturday night at most all local tracks in them hills than there was yesterday in Cali or March 7th in Vegas.
 

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FANTASIC POST!!!!!

RIGHT ON THE MONEY!!!!!

YOU SHOULD BE WRITING FOR NASCAR.COM

Super prognastication!!!!!
 

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NASCAR is not on the right path. We all know why. Money has ruined so much and now it is ruining the good ol' boys as well. The good ol' boys are dying away and the young guns are taking over. Good looks, multi million dollar contracts, women they would never get without the fame and money. NASCAR is turning down the same road as MLB, NBA, etc...

What a shame it is.

I am a big NASCAR fan as I used to be for NBA. NFL, etc...

That fanship of mine seems to be drifting away day by day, year by year.

Atleast we still have the memories of what is used to be when the good ol' boys were having a good ol' time and they were doing so for the love and passion for the sport.

We do not see this often at any level anylonger.

Wonder how long before we get NASCAR drivers talking about a strike?
 

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I do not agree at all.

The world would like more saturday night races but don't get them so the locals can still run around the 1/2 mile oval.

The consumers who have been watching in record numbers on TV and live are amongst the most loyal of all when it comes to supporting their advertisers. IOW Fans know which suits chip in for their entertainment and take care of them.

There is nothing wrong with NASCAR returning the favor by expanding their presence in other markets and at new tracks.

Nascar is learning; they have an immensely popular product and the way to move it ahead is by tapping into the popularity and not shutting anyone who doesn't use the word y'all out.
 

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SPVI- For now maybe, in 10-20 years I dont think so.

The generic aspect of these tracks is going to reach epic boredom levels.

We need more Bristols, Talledegas, Poconos, and Martinsville tracks.

Las Vegas, Atlanta, and California are quite boring............and I am big Nascar fan.

Come back in 15 years, MR JONES will look like a freaking Rhodes Scholar.
 

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i prefer the shorter tracks as well. a lot more excitement.
 

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I dont profess to be a fan but ...

My problem is there does not seem to be the incentive for winning. Everyone wants a top 10 or top 5 finish.

should be 200 points for first then 42 for 2nd the declining by 2 with no points for out of the top 20, then youwont have eat up cars limping around the track
 

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Since NASCAR no longer has enough viable teams to fill its 43-car fields, the back of each pack is supplemented by cars entered simply to pick up the show-up guarantee, which came to $64,000 and change here.

Friday morning, ageless Joe Ruttman took over the Dodge qualified by Johnny Benson because the car was scheduled to run only a couple of laps before retiring. Rather than stick around for four miles, Benson flew home to North Carolina on Saturday night.

Kirk Shelmerdine extended his field-filler run to five laps Sunday.
 

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General,

Three years older than Ruttman, Morgan Shepard at age 62, with his one car, one engine and used tires is actually running and finishing races. A 32nd at Martinsville I believe, and an extended run in California.

Hell Pete, I'm 5 years younger than that. Got good heart medications now. Firesuit still fits. Perhaps inspired by TEAMJONES' success in our RX/Royal Nascar contest, I've again been bitten by the bug which has been biting me each spring of late.

Started looking at the local racing classifieds on line yesterday and realized I could get something that's at least running and possibly even a top 10 car in the lowest class at my local track for much less than half of my current offshore bankroll.

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is a great rush my friends. Taking the green in a Thunderstock feature and accelerating coming out of turn 3 surrounded by 25 other town idiots is an exhilerating risk taking proposition on many fronts. First place payed $75 last year but you got $10 all the way down to 15th and that covered at least your own pit pass fee. A top ten covered the driver and additional crew of two also. A decent run in your heat and bingo...you paid for your gas and oil.

This year my hood and rear quarter would be available for RX sponsorship. Keep in mind crowds of at least three thousand. One time fee...$100 for season or until I blow the engine again as was last year's fate. Risks involved for everyone in this venture. Artwork with the sponsor logo is done by Mrs. Jones' son who is a professional tattoo artist with air brush and our chief wrench also. Mrs. Jones handles the fabrication work. Remember Jones can hit his marks, is not a field- filler, and is fearless at this track. Fishhead has seen videos and can vouch for that. Hell he can even drive and I'm willing to assume crew chief responsibilities.

Sorry, I digress again and this time with a shameless solicitation effort.
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Shepard is quite a feel good story and worthy of mention at the least....and obviously inspiring to some of us independents.
 

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Folks- The scary thing is, MR JONES is 100% dead serious about this.

I have done some crazy things in my life, but if this happens, it may take the cake.
 

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Oh, yes I have seen Mr. Jones on video doing practice runs and involved in what can best be described as a "Mini Happy Hour Event".

In the Happy Hour event, he was being severely black flagged as his non-sponsored car sat against the retaining wall on turn 3.

How severe was this black flag???

So severe the flagman was sprinting towards the JONES vehicle waving the dreaded black flag!!!

Obviously this local track does not do drug testing.
 

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Mr Jones,

I have absolutely Zero money value in my capacity here. I wish you the best in the racing Sir. Sounds like a very fun time.
 

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Just kidding General,

We had such a great time with it last year sir. It's hard to come to terms with the fact that it's over. Hard to hang it up no matter what the game. So we have a few drinks and propose grandiose ideas. It's all good sir.

And that's why I feel so blessed every morning when I see the rotation in front of me. Had to give up everyone of those games now, but really haven't given up any of them at all. And through it all I have avoided a tax on my ignorance. Can't help it that I'm lucky. The harder I work at it the luckier I get. Kind of like the first time I played the games.
 

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The more concentrated effort we put into something, we will inevitably get better at it. Sports betting included. It is so humorous to sit with the guys here and discuss the old habits we had. There is a university of knowledge here for a sports bettor if one takes the time to try and comprehend it all. The smallest of improvements here and there eventually add up to make sense.
 

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