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Good day everyone,

If you ve been cheated or know anyone who has been cheated or defrauded by English Sports Betting, now is the time to step up and share any experiences or information. I m a police officer from Virginia who posted awhile back. The reason I am involved is I have a family member that was cheated of several thousands of dollars. He came to me with the problem and had no idea how to file a formal complaint. Believe me when I tell you that the Irish Government is very interested in any information that may be supplied. Please do not contact the irish embassy or consulate as they will refer you to the Office of Enterprise, Trade & Employment then to the Director of Corporate Enforcement.
Since late fall I opened a folder and began an investigation on my own time into their questionable business practices, little by little myself and others were able to gather useful information from not only existing and former clients, but also a former employee.
I cannot stress enough how important it is for you and others to share any information, however insignificant it may be to the Director of Corporate Enforcement within the Irish Government. Here is your opportunity to make a difference. Here is a link to the Complaint form which goes directly to Corporate Enforcement. All contact information is also listed on the site.
I wish I could do more for my cousin and his family however when I saw the hardship it caused them, I immediately thought there would be many others. In my position of authority if I can help a positive cause, frankly it s part of my job description. Good luck to you all!

Esb link http://www.jccl.net/corporate_information/executive_leadership.html

Also http://www.odce.ie/faq/article.asp?NID=99

http://www.odce.ie/contact/default.asp
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copshopgs
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posted April 16, 2004 03:53 AM
--the business link has Mark Hovan and Dennis ****** are key people are involved with ESB. They can be reached at 610-266-3634 Mark ext. is 315 and Dennis is 331. ESB business no. 1-800-403-9704.

http://www.jccl.net/corporate_information/executive_leadership.html


--Do your duty and file a complaint, it s your only way to make a difference.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by copshopgs:
Good day everyone,

If you ve been cheated or know anyone who has been cheated or defrauded by English Sports Betting, now is the time to step up and share any experiences or information. I m a police officer from Virginia who posted awhile back. The reason I am involved is I have a family member that was cheated of several thousands of dollars. He came to me with the problem and had no idea how to file a formal complaint. Believe me when I tell you that the Irish Government is very interested in any information that may be supplied. Please do not contact the irish embassy or consulate as they will refer you to the Office of Enterprise, Trade & Employment then to the Director of Corporate Enforcement.
Since late fall I opened a folder and began an investigation on my own time into their questionable business practices, little by little myself and others were able to gather useful information from not only existing and former clients, but also a former employee.
I cannot stress enough how important it is for you and others to share any information, however insignificant it may be to the Director of Corporate Enforcement within the Irish Government. Here is your opportunity to make a difference. Here is a link to the Complaint form which goes directly to Corporate Enforcement. All contact information is also listed on the site.
I wish I could do more for my cousin and his family however when I saw the hardship it caused them, I immediately thought there would be many others. In my position of authority if I can help a positive cause, frankly it s part of my job description. Good luck to you all!

Esb link http://www.jccl.net/corporate_information/executive_leadership.html

Also http://www.odce.ie/faq/article.asp?NID=99

http://www.odce.ie/contact/default.asp
Posts: 3 | Registered: April 13, 2004



copshopgs
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posted April 16, 2004 03:53 AM
--the business link has Mark Hovan and Dennis ****** are key people are involved with ESB. They can be reached at 610-266-3634 Mark ext. is 315 and Dennis is 331. ESB business no. 1-800-403-9704.

http://www.jccl.net/corporate_information/executive_leadership.html


--Do your duty and file a complaint, it s your only way to make a difference.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Can't you just fly down there with a big can of whoop ass?
 

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Copshop - what response have you had from OCE with your cousin's complaint? Or from anyone else who filed a complaint. What good did it do?

The 800 # in Ireland is fine but it doesn't get you to the money. It is just a CALL CENTER.

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yo mr. virginia cop---why dont u just tell your relative it's illegal to bet over the internet...
 

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barkers,

You are an ASS...
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i'm an ass because i dont mirror your opinion on this matter? fuk u kissass
 

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It is truly a tragedy that these people can continue to operate.

ESB aka telebet.com should be avoided by all means.
 

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Just an update on ESB and their fearless leader, like people needed another reason to stay away from ESB.

May 2004

Former star athlete George ****** of Allentown, convicted of gambling charges 19 months ago, is facing new federal charges involving bankruptcy fraud.
A federal grand jury accused ****** on Wednesday of embezzling about $280,000 from his real estate business, which was supposed to be under the control of a bankruptcy court.
****** said Wednesday he didn't know about the charges. ''It sounds absurd and bizarre,'' he said. ''I have no idea what they're even talking about.''
****** was supposed to report to federal prison in March 2003 to serve a 15-month sentence for the gambling conviction. But a federal judge allowed him to remain free until an appeals court rules on the case. That appeal is still pending.
In the bankruptcy case, the grand jury charged him with embezzlement from a bankruptcy estate and concealment of bankruptcy estate assets. That means he allegedly took money that could have gone to pay creditors and tried to hide his actions.

According to the indictment, he was the president and co-owner of Quality Realty Construction Inc. when it sold a downtown Allentown building in 1996 for $425,000. The new owner agreed to make 60 monthly payments ending in 2001.

In February 1997, Quality Realty filed for bankruptcy protection, meaning a bankruptcy court would have to approve withdrawals from the company's bank accounts.

But from March 1997 to August 2000, ****** allegedly made withdrawals totaling $280,000 that were not authorized by the bankruptcy court. The bankruptcy court had not authorized any withdrawals, except to attorneys.

To conceal funds, according to the indictment, ****** submitted false monthly financial reports to the bankruptcy court. He allegedly created false inflated account balances by writing checks with insufficient funds.

If convicted of bankruptcy fraud, ****** could be given a prison term and a fine.

On Wednesday, ****** said the investigators could have dealt with the issues by asking him questions about the bankruptcy case.

''It seems to me like there's a lot of confusion and once the confusion is resolved we can come to the bottom of this,'' he said. ''It seems to me that an issue like this could have been resolved out of court.

''As far as I know, I'm innocent of all the charges. … Anybody who knows me knows I'm not going to do anything intentionally to harm anybody. That's not the way I was raised.''



******, 45, was a star wrestler and football player at Dieruff High School and Louisiana State University. He later played briefly for several professional football teams.

He also is known for renovating old buildings, then selling or leasing them. In addition, he owned Allentown's Acorn Hotel.

This is the second time that the U.S. attorney's office in Philadelphia has pursued charges against him.
In September 2002, he was convicted of 15 criminal counts involving his sports betting business. After a two-week trial, the jury convicted him of running a gambling business in violation of Pennsylvania law, using telephone lines to take bets, conspiracy and money laundering.
****** advertised his business, International Casino, as an offshore operation in the Caribbean, where gambling is legal. But he also had an office in Pennsylvania, where such sports betting is illegal.
International Casino accepted bets on college and professional sports, taking in more than $1 million in 14 months from 1995 to 1997, according to prosecutors.
A judge dismissed more than half of the convictions, then ordered the 15-month prison term.
A year earlier, his brothers, Dennis and Joseph, were cleared of gambling-related charges in the same courthouse.
 

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Here's more, may be a start of more to come, FCC worked with Irish Gov. (Office of Corporate Enforcement and Garda Fraud)

FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
WASHINGTON, D.C. 20554
June 18, 2004


VIA CERTIFIED MAIL
RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED
AND FACSIMILE

English Sports Betting, Inc. English Sports Betting,
Inc.
a.k.a. English Sports Service, Inc. a.k.a. English
Sports Service, Inc.
a.k.a. English Sports a.k.a. English Sports
a.k.a. English Sports Betting Ltd. a.k.a. English
Sports Betting Ltd.
a.k.a. English Sports Info Processors a.k.a. English
Sports Info Processors
a.k.a. Telebet.com a.k.a. Telebet.com
a.k.a. Telebet Network a.k.a. Telebet Network
a.k.a. Telebet Sports, Inc. a.k.a. Telebet Sports,
Inc.
a.k.a. 1-800-Telebet a.k.a. 1-800-Telebet
a.k.a. Sports Marketing & Sales, Inc. a.k.a. Sports
Marketing & Sales, Inc.
a.k.a. Las Vegas Sporting News a.k.a. Las Vegas
Sporting News
850 Third Street 1 Mangrove Way DEB #2
Whitehall, Pennsylvania 18052-5926 Montego Bay Freezone
Attention: Laurie A. ******, CEO Montego Bay
Dennis J. ******,CEO Jamaica
W.I.
Attention: Laurie A. ******,
CEO
Dennis J.
******,CEO

English Sports Betting, Inc. English Sports Betting,
Inc.
a.k.a. English Sports Service, Inc. a.k.a. English
Sports Service, Inc.
a.k.a. English Sports a.k.a. English Sports
a.k.a. English Sports Betting Ltd. a.k.a. English
Sports Betting Ltd.
a.k.a. English Sports Info Processors a.k.a. English
Sports Info Processors
a.k.a. Telebet.com a.k.a. Telebet.com
a.k.a. Telebet Network a.k.a. Telebet Network
a.k.a. Telebet Sports, Inc. a.k.a. Telebet Sports,
Inc.
a.k.a. 1-800-Telebet a.k.a. 1-800-Telebet
a.k.a. Sports Marketing & Sales, Inc. a.k.a. Sports
Marketing & Sales, Inc.
a.k.a. Las Vegas Sporting News a.k.a. Las Vegas Sporting
News
855 Third Street 881 3rd Street, Suite A7
Whitehall, Pennsylvania 18052-5926 Whitehall,
Pennsylvania 18052-5922
Attention: Laurie A. ******, CEO Attention: Laurie
A. ******, CEO
Dennis J. ******,CEO
Dennis J. ******, CEO
English Sports Betting, Inc. Ireland Outbound
Services1
a.k.a. English Sports Service, Inc. Two
International Drive 2nd Floor
a.k.a. English Sports Rye Brook, New York 10573
a.k.a. English Sports Betting Ltd. Attention:
President
a.k.a. English Sports Info Processors
a.k.a. Telebet.com
a.k.a. Telebet Network
a.k.a. Telebet Sports, Inc.
a.k.a. 1-800-Telebet
a.k.a. Sports Marketing & Sales, Inc.
a.k.a. Las Vegas Sporting News
Enterprise Center
Creagh Road
Ballinasloe, Co.Galway 2
IE
Attention: Laurie A. ******, CEO
Dennis J. ******,CEO

RE: EB-04-TC-107

Dear Correspondents:

This is an official CITATION, issued pursuant to section
503(b)(5) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended (the
Act), 47 U.S.C. § 503(b)(5), for violations of the Act and the
Federal Communications Commission's rules that govern telephone
solicitations and unsolicited advertisements.2 As explained
below, future violations of the Act or Commission's rules in this
regard may subject your company to monetary forfeitures.

It has come to our attention that your company has delivered
one or more prerecorded messages to a residential telephone line
or lines in violation of the section 227(b)(1)(B) of the Act and
section 64.1200(a)(2) of the Commission's rules. Under these
provisions,

it shall be unlawful for any person within the United
States, or any person outside the United States if the
recipient is within the United States . . . to initiate any
telephone call to any residential telephone line using an
artificial or prerecorded voice to deliver a message without
the prior express consent of the called party, unless the
call

(i) Is made for emergency purposes,3
(ii) Is not made for a commercial purpose,
(iii) Is made for a commercial purpose but does not include
or introduce an unsolicited advertisement4 or constitute a
telephone solicitation,5
(iv) Is made to any person with whom the caller has an
established business relationship6 at the time the call is
made, or
(v) Is made by or on behalf of a tax-exempt nonprofit
organization.

Accordingly, it is generally unlawful to use an artificial or
prerecorded voice to deliver an advertisement or telephone
solicitation to a residential telephone line unless the call is
made (1) by or on behalf of a tax-exempt nonprofit organization,
(2) with the prior express consent of the called party, (3) to a
person who has an established business relationship with the
caller.

The attached information indicates that your company
delivered an unsolicited advertisement or telephone solicitation,
through a prerecorded message, to one or more residential
telephone subscribers who either (1) had not expressly invited or
authorized the call(s) or (2) did not have an established
business relationship with your company (a transaction within 18
months prior to the call(s), or an inquiry or application within
3 months prior to the call(s)). As explained above, this action
violates section 227(b)(1)(B) of the Communications Act and
section 64.1200(a)(2) of the Commission's rules.

Separately, it appears that your company also has violated
other Commission rules that govern all prerecorded messages.
Under section 64.1200(b), prerecorded messages must, at the
beginning of the message, state clearly the identity of the
business (the name under which the business is registered to
conduct business with the State Corporation Commission or
comparable regulatory authority), individual, or other entity
that is responsible for initiating the call. In addition, the
telephone number7 of such business, or individual, or other
entity must be provided either during or after the prerecorded
message. According to the attached information received by the
Commission, it appears that your telephone solicitation(s) did
not contain all the required information.

If, after receipt of this citation, you violate the
Communications Act or the Commission's rules in any manner
described herein, the Commission may impose monetary forfeitures
not to exceed $11,000 for each such violation or each day of a
continuing violation. 8

You may respond to this citation within 30 days from the
date of this letter either through (1) a personal interview at
the Commission's Field Office nearest to your place of business,
or
(2) a written statement. Your response should specify the
actions that you are taking to ensure that you do not violate the
Commission's rules governing telephone solicitation and
unsolicited advertisements, as described above.

The nearest Commission office appears to be either the FCC
Headquarters location at 445-12th Street, S.W., Washington, D.C.
20554 or the Philadelphia Office at One Oxford Valley Office
Building, Room 404, 2300 East Lincoln Highway, Langhorne,
Pennsylvania 19047-1859. Please contact Senetta Lancaster at
(202) 418-7320 if you wish to schedule a personal interview. You
should schedule any interview to take place within 30 days of the
date of this letter. You should send any written statement
within 30 days of the date of this letter to:



Kurt A. Schroeder
Deputy Chief
Telecommunications Consumers
Division
Enforcement Bureau
Federal Communications Commission
445-12th Street, S.W.
Rm. 3-C366
Washington, D.C. 20554

Reference EB-04-TC-107 when corresponding with the Commission.

Reasonable accommodations for people with disabilities are
available upon request. Include a description of the
accommodation you will need including as much detail as you can.
Also include a way we can contact you if we need more
information. Please allow at least 5 days advance notice; last
minute requests will be accepted, but may be impossible to fill.
Send an e-mail to fcc504@fcc.gov or call the Consumer &
Governmental Affairs Bureau:

For sign language interpreters, CART, and other
reasonable accommodations:
202-418-0530 (voice), 202-418-0432 (tty);

For accessible format materials (braille, large print,
electronic files, and audio
format): 202-418-0531 (voice), 202-418-7365 (tty).

Under the Privacy Act of 1974, 5 U.S.C. § 552(a)(e)(3), we
are informing you that the Commission's staff will use all
relevant material information before it, including information
that you disclose in your interview or written statement, to
determine what, if any, enforcement action is required to ensure
your compliance with the Communications Act and the Commission's
rules.

The knowing and willful making of any false statement, or
the concealment of any material fact, in reply to this citation
is punishable by fine or imprisonment under 18 U.S.C. § 1001.

Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation.

Sincerely,



Kurt A. Schroeder
Deputy Chief, Telecommunications
Consumers Division
Enforcement Bureau
Federal Communications Commission

Enclosures

_________________________

1 The Telecommunications Consumers Division has obtained
information that Ireland Outbound Services, Inc. is the telephone
subscriber for 1-800-TELEBET.

2 47 U.S.C. § 227; 47 C.F.R. § 64.1200. A copy of these
provisions is enclosed for your convenience. Section 227 was
added to the Communications Act by the Telephone Consumer
Protection Act of 1991 and is most commonly known as the TCPA.
The TCPA and the Commission's parallel rules restrict a variety
of practices that are associated with telephone solicitation and
use of the telephone network to deliver unsolicited
advertisements, including prerecorded messages to residential
telephone lines.

3 The term ``emergency purposes'' means calls made necessary in
any situation affecting the health and safety of consumers.'' 47
C.F.R. § 64.1200(f)(2).

4 The term ``unsolicited advertisement'' means ``any material
advertising the commercial availability or quality of any
property, goods, or services which is transmitted to any person
without that person's prior express invitation or permission.''
47 U.S.C.§ 227(a)(4); 47 C.F.R. § 64.1200(f)(10).

5 The term ``telephone solicitation'' means

the initiation of a telephone call or message for the
purpose of encouraging the purchase or rental of, or
investment in, property, goods, or services, which is
transmitted to any person, but such term does not include a
call or message:
(i) To any person with that person's prior express
invitation or permission;
(ii) To any person with whom the caller has an established
business relationship; or
(iii) By or on behalf of a tax-exempt nonprofit
organization.

47 U.S.C. § 227(a)(3); 47 C.F.R.§ 64.1200(f)(9).

6 The term ``established business relationship'' means

a prior or existing relationship formed by a voluntary two-
way communication between a person or entity and a
residential subscriber with or without an exchange of
consideration, on the basis of the subscriber's purchase or
transaction with the entity within the eighteen (18) months
immediately preceding the date of the telephone call or on
the basis of the subscriber's inquiry or application
regarding products or services offered by the entity within
the three months immediately preceding the date of the call,
which relationship has not been previously terminated by
either party.
(i) The subscriber's seller-specific do-not-call request, as
set forth in paragraph (d)(3) of this section, terminates an
established business relationship for purposes of
telemarketing and telephone solicitation even if the
subscriber continues to do business with the seller.
(ii) The subscriber's established business relationship with
a particular business entity does not extend to affiliated
entities unless the subscriber would reasonably expect them
to be included given the nature and type of goods or
services offered by the affiliate and the identity of the
affiliate.

47 C.F.R. § 64.1200(f)(3)


7 Any telephone number so provided may not be for (1) an
autodialer or prerecorded message player that placed the call,
(2) a 900 number, or (3) any other number for which charges
exceed local or long distance transmission charges. In addition,
any such telephone number provided in connection with a
prerecorded sales messages to a residential telephone subscriber
must permit any individual to make a do-not-call request during
regular business hours for the duration of the telemarketing
campaign.

8 See 47 C.F.R. § 1.80(b)(3).
 

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Still open and still scamming, just wanted to do an update and I wonder why they are not paying with all of Dennis and comnpany legal costs over the last few years. It took over a year and a half for Jim Mcmahon and his agent, Zucker Sports Management of Chicago to get his pic off their website.
 

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I also thought this book was long gone. I played with them a LONG time ago when they first advertized in the Daily Racing Form. In those days, I lost on a regular basis.

I NEVER see an ad for this outfit anywhere these days so wonder how people continue to even play there.
 

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I wonder that myself.

Serioulsy....how do you guys think a new player would even KNOW about ESB?


I don't think that they advertise anywhere.
 

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I think Celaya said he saw an ad in a magazine. That wasn't too long ago.
 

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Regardless of the advances in science, regardless of the advances in communications and education that this planet has had in the last few some odd million years, there are 2 facts of life no govt or person/persons can deny...

1. THERE IS NO CURE FOR THE COMMON COLD

2. E.S.B. WILL NEVER DIE
 

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I am going to have to disagree Sfeiner...I think ESB will not make it through another football season.
I wish they had that future bet at Pinnacle.
 

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