DOS attacks -- message to affected books

DarrylParsons

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There are so many books affected by this it's unreal. Where this is going to lead I have no idea but I have a suggestion to make things smoother in the meantime...

At least one book I know sent emails to its clients with an alternative URL. Naturally it has to remain secret or else the attackers will find out and it will no longer work.

I strongly recommend all affected books to do the same and play this cat and mouse game until they figure out a permanent solution. Maybe just emailing the players with the largest betting volume would work to retain a high percentage of business while minimizing the risk of a leak.

Just a thought in case some books out there hadn't considered this approach.

 

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That is a good idea and I have personally wondered why they haven't done that myself.

 

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1) Is this why WSEX is down right now?

2) Don't you think the attackers have thought of this and have accounts there, so if they did set up an alternative site and e-mailed it out they would know where to go?

 

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They have to email their active clients only.

One of the books I play at came up with the unique url www._______frog.com

 

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They probably are playing thus having active accounts- it still would not surpise me if these attacks are coming from within the industry.

Cole

 

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When a DOS attack occurs they can still fax parlay cards and take phone wagers only just like the old days right?

Matty

 

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Matt - I am not sure if anyone is faxing parlay cards, that is up to individual books. All the books under attack do take phone wagers.

wil.

 

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Where this is going to lead I have no idea

Darryl,

To my knowledge you are not a middler/scalper (anymore). You take positions like I do. Would we not be better off having all these sh*t books out of business?
A) If all the money goes into one big market (like just Pinnacle or BetFair), we will see bigger line moves. It means that if a price drifts, it is likely to start drifting further, so I can have more and bigger bets. Now all the middlers/scalpers are far too often pushing lines/prices back.
B) If all the money indeed goes into just one big market, then I can simply bet bigger at once without having to spread my bets over many different books.

I may be completely wrong though. Just an idea.

 

Amitightornot

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mr. Colburne:
They probably are playing thus having active accounts- it still would not surpise me if these attacks are coming from within the industry.

Cole<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats the problem. You dont want players from Russia, Ukraine, eastern europe. Have active customers call to get the new urls, if the call is coming from eatern europe dont give it to them

 

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i second acw on this one, and i should add...

what are dos attacks and why do caribean books get in this mess, can anyone say secret service?

anyone found them "dos" attackers?

why are europian books unharmed? it's high time the us follow (once more) the rest of the world and made gambling on sports legal instead of letting mafiosi run the show in the u.s. while at the same time undermining offshore books.

 

DarrylParsons

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acw,

You are right in that I take positions and have only done the scalp thing very rarely. Still, I like betting into a lower effective line than what one book (even a good one like Pinnacle) offers. My bets are not so large that I need to spread them over several books but I suppose if they became so one day I might agree with you.

I can hardly wait for the day that stiff books go out of business but I don't think you can call Hollywood and IIS a shlt book, even if their limits are lower than Pinnacle.

If it ever does become all one big market with only Pinnacle or Betfair and they don't reduce their juice further, then I would probably see an opportunity and enter the bookmaking industry myself. Since there are others who are even more motivated than me to do bookmaking, I doubt your envisioned scenario will ever materialize although it is a nice thought to some extent.

 

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How are the DOS attacked being implemented? Is the volume of the attack so much that it crushes the ISP, or is it just large enough to flood the one host server until it filters out the offending computers?

 

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daringly:

I guess it's both: ISP and server are effected

 

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Looks like more and more books are getting hit. They must be in fear that soon the books will be able to get around the attack, now they are getting all they can. Maggots.