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This has to be one of the bigger blockbuster trades in the past 20 years in the NFL...

I guess MiKe Shanahan thinks he can keep finding 1400+yard runners!? So far it hasn`t been that hard actually....

I`m sure Joe Gibbs is feeling a little better about his offense with Brunell and now Clinton Portis , did Denver blow this one? They do get a 2nd rounder too though..

There aren`t many corner's in Bailey`s class though...What is the shelflife of a great corner though? I think Washington made out like a Champ!
 

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there are more great running backs than great corner backs.
 

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Good corners last longer than good RBs. Almost everyone of the RBs falls on hard times due to injury. Some make a comeback, others never do. Look at Eddie George, the guy looked great early on. He never really got that hurt, just so banged up and so unsupported by his line that he is a shell of his former self. Coming off the year they went to the SB, you would have given up a lot for him. Now you wouldn't give up anything to take on his contract.

Corners don't get hurt much and guys like Bailey are rare. They both got fat contracts. I am telling you though, Shanahan has spotted someone that he thinks he can get late first round or with that second round pick that he feels will be a top back in a year's time. The insistence on that pick sounds totally up his alley. With all the focus on the WRs this year, I think he feels people will overlook a good RB that will fit in his system well.
 

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I can see Shanahan finding a replacement in the draft and even a later round diamond , but Portis has HOF ability...The winner of this deal may not be decided for years....Both teams get stud players at the very top of their positions.

Injury will probably decide the winner...
 

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You're right about that Journey.I am amazed at how easily Denver finds new running backs who just step ritght in without missing a beat. they must have great scouts with a keen eye in regards to the running backs. I always thought that Denvers trainers had access to great performance enhancing drugs. I remember readinig a book about roids that was written by a guy called Bill Phillips I think. He went on to found EAS which is a supplement company located in Colorodo. i am pretty sure t hat he worked with Sharpe and Terrell Davis. If anyone can modify a steroid thereby making it undetectable it is him.
 

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I give Punk-Snyder credit for knowing how to make money..........

But he sure is doing a superior job in trying to blow it.
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BTJ you have lost your kazakhstani accent again. Yes, they have KEEN EYE just like you
 

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ALTHOUGH TRADING FOR INSTANT GRATIFICATION

IS NOT A CURE;FOR THE LONG RUN,IT CAN BE

ACTUALLY BENEFICIAL FOR BOTH TEAMS AS

THE REDSKINS HAVE HAD THIS GAPING NEED

THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED...
 

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I consider this a huge improvement for the Skins. Instead of letting a great back go and sign second-rate Florida Gators you are signing a great back and a solid veteran QB. Sounds like a Joe Gibbs staple, not Snyder. 10-6 at least next year.
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Broncos by a lot. Shut down corner is much more valuable than an injury-prone back.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by -=Scorpion=-:
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champ bailey is not a great CB<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

most people in the know would disagree.
 

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I would say the skins with Portis, all do is very hard to tell since there are a lot of good RB in this years draft.

denver should make a push for willis mcgahee (bills) or Johnson (ex-penn st. now riding bench with the chiefs)
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Nice analogy tarheel.......Not sure about the salary situation, but if Bills have their hearts set on McGahee, Denver should chase make a case for Travis Henry. One of the two anyhow. Chiefs probably are still worried in the back of their minds that Holmes' hip may give out though.....
 

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Skins sign another name player.



ASHBURN, Va. -- The Washington Redskins agreed to contract terms with former Chicago Bears defensive end Phillip Daniels on Tuesday, the Associated Press has learned, giving the team three potential major player acquisitions even before the start of free agency.



Daniels was being flown to Washington in owner Dan Snyder's jet for a mid-afternoon arrival at Redskins Park and needed only to pass his physical before being signed, according to an NFL source who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Daniels is expected to join Jacksonville quarterback Mark Brunell and Denver running back Clinton Portis as new Redskins in an earlier-than-usual start to Snyder's offseason splash of signings.

A trade for Brunell has already been worked out, and the trade for Portis neared completion Tuesday, pending a contract agreement between the Broncos and Washington cornerback Champ Bailey. The Redskins tentatively plan to announce both trades after Brunell arrives on Wednesday, with Portis set to follow with his own news conference on Thursday.

Although free agency officially doesn't begin until Wednesday, the Redskins were able to sign Daniels because he was cut by the Bears on Monday. Chicago's move was long-expected, and the Bears had given the Redskins permission to negotiate with Daniels before his release.

Terms of Daniels' contract were not immediately available. The Redskins had no comment, and messages left for Daniels' agent were not immediately returned.

Daniels has played four seasons each with Seattle and Chicago, making 44½ sacks and 370 tackles over an eight-year career. He had 2½ sacks and 41 tackles and started all 16 games last season for the Bears, but his projected $3 million salary for 2004 made him an ideal salary-cap casualty as new coach Lovie Smith attempts to rebuild the team.

Brunell, Portis and Daniels are just the beginning for the Redskins. Washington acquired nine players in the first four days of free agency last season, and they just might find a way to top that this time around as they look to fill several holes from last year's 5-11 season.

Defensive linemen Jevon Kearse, Cornelius Griffin and Robaire Smith, cornerbacks Shawn Springs and Troy Vincent, tight end Walter Rasby and punter Chris Gardocki are among the players the Redskins are set to pursue when the market opens Wednesday morning.

Daniels is the first step in a needed overhaul of the defensive line. The defense ranked 24th against the run, and the top pass-rushing threat last season was 40-year-old Bruce Smith, who has since been released. Defensive end Renaldo Wynn could be the only starter who retains his job next season.

The Redskins plan to send four-time Pro Bowl cornerback Bailey and a second-round draft pick to the Broncos for Portis, who agreed to an eight-year, $50.5 million contract with Washington on Monday. The final step is for Denver to work out a contract with Bailey, and Bailey's agent said that deal could be "wrapped up quickly" after resolving a few details.

A third-round pick will be the price for Brunell, who agreed to a seven-year, $43 million contract with the Redskins two weeks ago. The flurry of activity, added to deals made in previous years, has left Washington with just two selections -- in the first and fifth rounds -- in this year's draft.



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Ok well lets assume both have HOF careers it would have to be a wash then, but on the other hand one could blowout their knee on a carpet seem...

Bailey is a top 5 corner, and Portis is a top 5 runner...I think both teams wanted to go in different directions....The Skins for some reason were acting like Bailey wasn`t in their future even before the trade...Portis being so young and having a great year by anyone`s standards...you can`t fault either team really....barring injury both could be 6-8 time Pro Bowler`s...

I forgot all about Larry Johnson from Penn St
 

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I just dont think KC will let Larry Johnson go yet. Even though Holmes did fine last year, I think the Chiefs organization will always have that fear in the back of their minds that he will get reinjured.
 

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the past few Penn St runners have turned out to be lemons....I thought Johnson was a stud, I thought Enis was too though....
 

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