THE PIONEERS IN THE OFFSHORE GAMBLING INDUSTRY,MAY GET A BAD NAME,BECAUSE OF WAGER-ONE

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Dear Sir,with all do respect to Wager-1 and OFFSHORE BETTING,here is my dilemma as following:Wagers were placed for the Foot Lock 3 Point Shoot Out.The lines were extremely high on all given players in the match up.This was a "WIN WIN" situation for anybody even with the Lowest Math Skills to figure out."OPPS", except for the knowledgeable skilled experts at WAGER-1.EX: As posted in the match up,LENARD + 550 vs. KORVER + 350.I can go on and on with all of the players in this section but I believe you understand this was a win situation with all the other players as well.Let me continue.I called Wager-1 by phone and asked if this was the match up,as denoted above as well as the others and they stated yes.I placed my bets they were accepted and confirm.After the games I viewed my account history only to see it was then cancelled. I called them by phone and asked why.They stated it was a Human Error and will not PAY-OUT.These are your " SO -CALLED EXPERTS".They should live by the rules as I must do so.Wager placed & accept the wager confirmation that wager is final &can not be revered.I myself at one point in time made an error in confirming a bet with wager-1(with odds being the same) hours before the game could not undo the bet.They stated once confirmed,A valid wager cannot be changed by myself or anyone.I took my lumps and paid the price,as well as they should.After speaking to a manager,they show no signs in reciprocating.So my question to you,what recourse if any do I have to collect,or can they be SHUT DOWN.FEED BACK PLEASE.Thank you for your concern in the above matter.Cordiality Yours,Dennis.......................... HERE IS THE POST AS STATED TO SHRINK@ THE PRESCRIPTION.I'M NEW ON THIS SITE I THOUGHT THIS POST WAS SENT TO THE BOARD.
 

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Moneyplays,

I am sorry to hear of your situation. I agree you should be paid. It is unfortunate that these do occur from time to time. Hope everything works out. Best of luck.
 

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Apparrently LENARD was meant to be a -550 favorite instead of a +550 dog.

IF this was the case, this would constitute an OBVIOUS bad line, and your bet should be cancelled.
 

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uh...ohhhh...here we go again...

with games it is obvious...but with prob bets such as this one it is a grey area....

was it a bet just with those two players against each other?

if it was +550 vs + 350 & these were the only two options within the wager that is obviously a mistake & IMHO should not be honoured...especially if you bet both sides...had
 

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Thanks WIL.!

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I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU STATE,HOWEVER IT WAS WITH EVERY PLAYER IN THE FOOT LOCK 3 POINT SHOOT OUT.I EVEN CALLED TO ASK THE SO-CALLED EXPERTS IF THIS WAS A CORRECT LINE AND THEY STATED YES IT IS.NOW WHAT DOES ONE DO,THEY HAD TIME TO CORRECT ANY ERRORS.ITS LIKE ENTERING A CONTRACT,IF YOU ARE OF SOUND MIND AND SIGN YOU ARE COMMITED TO YOUR DECISION.
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Of course I will catch some grief about this subject, but if what you are stating is true, your bet should be honored. However, if they cancelled the wager before the event started, I believe they should NOT be held liable. If they cancelled your bet after the event started, you should be credited your winnings.

With that said, it appears to be at the discretion of the management. If you get no where with the management, withrdraw your funds and move on to another book.

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so it was not a player vs player situation....you are saying it is a situation where there were all the contestents & you simply chose two of them? & You called them & placed & confirmed yout bet?

If this is the case It is my humble opinion that your bets should stand....I mean there were at least 10 other players you didnt select...is that correct?

If this is correct & V wager is not honouring your wager are they refunding all losing wagers on what must have been a heavily bet event?....How do we know this was not done on purpose?...this is why I have a firm beleif that a blanket rule...or throwing out the 'bad line' rule must also be followed by stringent rules...one of which is & should be the bet cancelled before game time...

[This message was edited by SportSavant on February 15, 2004 at 10:55 PM.]
 

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IT WAS PLAYER VS. PLAYER EX.LENARD +550 VS.KOVER+350,AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER PLAYER WITH ODDS AS SUCH.DO THE MATH YOU CAN ONLY WIN.THESE SO CALLED KNOWLEDGABLE EXPERTS BEST CLOSE DOWN THEIR STORE.ALL BE WELL. BYE............
 

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You were trying to take advantage of a loophole, if you were honorable you would have told them about there mistake, instead of trying to lawyering your way into getting paid on a scam by boring us with the situation.
 

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dude....if it was player vs player, that was obviously a mistake...even if the clerk was too dumb too realize it you shoudnt have tried that...you should have notified them of the mistake & asked for a free 25$ bet for your efforts....
 

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I KNOW ERRORS & INCOMPLETENESS IS IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE WITH RESPECT TO COMPUTER SOFTWARE.BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE SETFORTH.THEY POSTED THE LINE,I CALLED THEM TO CONFIRM IF ITS SO,THEY STATED THAT WAS THE LINE,SO I PLACED THE BET.REMEMBER THESE PEOPLE ARE PROS SO THEY CLAIM.FEED BACK P L E A S E ........
 

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how can a line be (+) on both sides of a matchup? This is most obviously a bad line, and as much as their clerks may be dumbasses, you can't expect them to honor these bets...

Do you line-shop at all? Didn't you notice that every other place has -550 w\and then your book has +550?
 

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Out of all the "bad line" threads we've had in the last couple weeks, this is EASILY the worst. It was a head-to-head prop between Lenard and Korver. Lenard was +550, Korver was +350.

Might as well have been "heads" +550, "tails" +350.

Moneyplays, it appears that you're relatively new, but you'll quickly learn that 99% of the books don't honor lines when they're obviously incorrect.

Think of it this way. If the grocery store ran an add that said "Frosted Flakes, $0.12 per box", the store does NOT have to honor that ad. You can show them the ad and complain all you want, but they're not obligated to sell Frosted Flakes for $0.12 per box.
 

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I'm trying to figure out who the Pioneers are. At the risk of (heaven forbid) sounding pro-book, which I am not, this is a case where the book had no way to win. Granted it is a pretty dumb move to hang all pluses for the whole group of match-ups.


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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Funk Monkey:
Out of all the "bad line" threads we've had in the last couple weeks, this is EASILY the worst. It was a head-to-head prop between Lenard and Korver. Lenard was +550, Korver was +350.

Might as well have been "heads" +550, "tails" +350.

Moneyplays, it appears that you're relatively new, but you'll quickly learn that 99% of the books don't honor lines when they're obviously incorrect.

Think of it this way. If the grocery store ran an add that said "Frosted Flakes, $0.12 per box", the store does NOT have to honor that ad. You can show them the ad and complain all you want, but they're not obligated to sell Frosted Flakes for $0.12 per box.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I understand what you are saying,however in a AD such as you state it would be called a TYPO-ERROR.BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE.But I will move on to another Book
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Of course they're also bullshitting if they said it was meant to be Lenard -550/Korver +350 matchup. Every book had Korver at lower odds to win than Lenard, let alone giving Korver +350 in the matchup. If they had read -550/+350 and you plsyed and won +350 they'd also have syrely cancelled. Obviously the lines they were reading were overall odds to win the shootout but were misread as natchup odds. At least they could be honest. Sheesh.
 

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obvious bad line BUT sounds like they waited til after, kept the Korver losing bets, canceled the Voshon winning bets.
 

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