Though one. It's not easy to spot a sharp player in 10 plays, doesn't really matter how much you won, remember you can get lucky from time to time. There's a lot to consider, what number are you betting, any line moves, kind of plays, and a lot more that you can not state a fair opinion with only 10 plays imo.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Judge Wapner:
Dante,this will differ radically book by book.The only time I used to boot anyone is if they were continually beating the moves.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Judge, most bookmakers would love to know that type of information. Why would you want the screen to go black when you could let this guy bet first and sharpen your number before the order hit the wire? Your logic is flawed in this example. Just limit him so you can buy this info for less than the limit and either bet out or move the number before everyone else does.
[This message was edited by castaway on February 11, 2004 at 01:08 AM.]
Dante,this will differ radically book by book.The only time I used to boot anyone is if they were continually beating the moves.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Judge, most bookmakers would love to know that type of information. Why would you want the screen to go black when you could let this guy bet first and sharpen your number before the order hit the wire? Your logic is flawed in this example. Just limit him so you can buy this info for less than the limit and either bet out or move the number before everyone else does.
[This message was edited by castaway on February 11, 2004 at 01:08 AM.]
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by castaway:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Judge Wapner:
Dante,this will differ radically book by book.The only time I used to boot anyone is if they were continually beating the moves.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Judge, most bookmakers would love to know that infornmation. Why would you want the screen to go black when you could let this guy bet first and sharpenen your number before the order hit the wire? Your logic is flawed in this example. Just limit him so you can buy this info for less than the limit and either bet out or move the number before eveyone else does.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No offense to Judge, but this is the difference between Pinnacle, Olympic, Cris and most of the rest.
If Panam had paid closer attention to this type of action they would be more likely to still be in business.
VVV
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Judge Wapner:
Dante,this will differ radically book by book.The only time I used to boot anyone is if they were continually beating the moves.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Judge, most bookmakers would love to know that infornmation. Why would you want the screen to go black when you could let this guy bet first and sharpenen your number before the order hit the wire? Your logic is flawed in this example. Just limit him so you can buy this info for less than the limit and either bet out or move the number before eveyone else does.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No offense to Judge, but this is the difference between Pinnacle, Olympic, Cris and most of the rest.
If Panam had paid closer attention to this type of action they would be more likely to still be in business.
VVV
Exactly 3V, any shop of size will keep the very fastest & sharpest around, they just want to eliminate their followers from coming hard on their heels.
Any joint that has Tiger, Baxter, Artie, etc..coming into them, has sharp numbers, and those marks are assets, not detriments to winning.
Show me a book that has only non-sharp action, and I'll show you a book that isn't what it could be..and one that will probably close shop one day.
Any joint that has Tiger, Baxter, Artie, etc..coming into them, has sharp numbers, and those marks are assets, not detriments to winning.
Show me a book that has only non-sharp action, and I'll show you a book that isn't what it could be..and one that will probably close shop one day.
Of course you would love to have those guys just so you know the moves ahead, but only if you have enough volumen or squares to cover whatever they bet on the other side as soon as you move the number before anyone else, if you don't, you would have to lower their limits and that's when they walk. Olym, Pinn, and the other books you mentioned do have that kind of action, other books don't.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Horseshoe:
Show me a book that has only non-sharp action, and I'll show you a book that isn't what it could be..and one that will probably close shop one day.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
There are a lot more squares in the world than sharps. And dealing to them is more profitable for most people, unless you are one of the monster shops where its all about volume.
The value of a sharpie to a shop is in allowing you to adjust your line before the movement hits everywhere. This only works for a true sharp hitter, not a wannabe or just a whale. And the true sharp hitter in smaller shops tends to find his limits lowered, thus playing the shop later and closer to screen movement on the line, reducting his value even more to the shop itself.
Followers are easy to deal with in the current market, as they generally are slower than screen movement. So a shop without the sharp action itself benefits against the followers without having the actual sharp exposure, if it "moves on air."
When you start betting out sharp information, you are no longer the bookie. You are a gambler.
All depends on the philosophy of your business model.
Show me a book that has only non-sharp action, and I'll show you a book that isn't what it could be..and one that will probably close shop one day.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
There are a lot more squares in the world than sharps. And dealing to them is more profitable for most people, unless you are one of the monster shops where its all about volume.
The value of a sharpie to a shop is in allowing you to adjust your line before the movement hits everywhere. This only works for a true sharp hitter, not a wannabe or just a whale. And the true sharp hitter in smaller shops tends to find his limits lowered, thus playing the shop later and closer to screen movement on the line, reducting his value even more to the shop itself.
Followers are easy to deal with in the current market, as they generally are slower than screen movement. So a shop without the sharp action itself benefits against the followers without having the actual sharp exposure, if it "moves on air."
When you start betting out sharp information, you are no longer the bookie. You are a gambler.
All depends on the philosophy of your business model.
