Shrink: BetPanAm, Bonuses and Solvency

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I think I may have suggested something like this previously for other books in trouble...

How would PanAm be if they put all the bonus money aside and deferred its payment? Even though people may have earned their bonuses, it's REALLY not the same as REAL money from deposits and wins/losses.

I'm not saying it never gets paid back, just that PanAm suspends the payment of bonuses, so that players with REAL money can withdraw. The bonuses would still stay in the account, but just not be redeemable for REAL CASH (until this crisis passes).

This seems to be a pretty reasonable "temporary sacrifice" so that they can make payments to players and remain solvent. I think that this a fair way to reduce PanAm's obligations, without hurting the players.
 

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I don't think this would help at all. Bonuses (hopefully) constitute a very small percentage of total client funds on hand. This means that, even if bonuses were not paid, then only a slightly extra volume of funds would be released. It would not make the difference between being paid and not being paid.
 

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I'm not sure of BetPamAm internal financials (which is why I asked Shrink to look into this). However, considering how generous their program was, it could easily have generated 1/2 to 1 million in bonuses over the course of the season. Usually the bonus money gets cycled back in as losses, so it sounds like a lot more than it is in REAL dollars.

Shrink or BetPamAm, could you please indicate how much outstanding BONUS money is in the accounts, that if "frozen", would help cover the current players.

If Shrink of BetPanAm weighs in on this thread, we might find a decent compromise that is fair to both sides (and maybe makes the investors feel a little more "cushioned" abotu doing the right thing).
 

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