A Gambler's Nightmare: Intertops.com

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I consider myself a recreational 2-5dime/game gambler and I've been dropping money offshore for 3 years now. I've NEVER had such an unbelievable experience in my life! I admit my mistake of signing up with Intertops (who's limits are too constraining and supposedly don't accept telephone wagers). Nonetheless, my fellow gamblers must hear of my situation (5 dimes were in my account at the time of the incident): At 5PM Friday evening, I went to the website to place some wagers. It was down. Yes, the website was inaccessible. I immediately called the phone number and was informed that the website was temporarily down and should be up shortly. I asked if I could make a telephone wager or paper bet because of the extreme situation and my request was denied plainly. I was told that "the website being down was out of their hands and wasn't their fault." Now us businessmen know better... You can blame other people all you want, but if the food is cold, you compensate your customer to fulfill their needs as best you can or get a supervisor who can. When I asked for a manager or a supervisor or anyone who spoke more than 100 words of English, my phone call was disconnected.

One hour later, the website is still down and I have an identical telephone situation. At this time, I PLEAD for them to connect me to ANY manager of ANY type, fearing I would not get my wagers in, but my request was denied. I even asked if they could call the cell phone of any owner or manager of the Sportsbook and I was told that they were "out of the country" and don't have cell phones. Now, I'm not a newbie, the "out of the country" excuse doesn't work on me and I know that there are managers either on duty or AT LEAST have a cell phone or pager. My continued pleading resulted in a "lovely" termination of the phone call.

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It's now 7:30 and I've already missed out on some of the early games as the website is still down. Let's not forget, it's Friday night and I have plans to go out... This is beyond rediculous. Now it's one thing to "not accept telephone wagers," but when your website is down all night, you need to have a backup plan. Moreover, I consider myself a valued gambler. When bookmakers have players who recreationally wager through 5-10 dimes of action each night, they should be the most revered clients. I should've been connected to a manager or owner or at least, one of them should've called me back. Finally at 8:15, I convince one of their clerks to supposedly "contact their owner/manager and call me back." Cheers!

So now, it's midnight and here are the facts:
#1) The website is STILL down.
#2) I have not received a call OR an email from ANY representative of Intertops to explain the situation.
#3) My winning parlay does not count, for I was unable to place it (despite the fact that the Intertop tape recordings will hear my screaming voice beckon the foreign Intertops representative what I wanted to play for a 3-dime parlay and that I beg that she pass it along to a supervisor or take note of it).

Not only is this situation unnaceptable for an average player who saw Intertops was a Prescription-recommended sportsbook (by the way, I did inform The Shrink of my outrage per telephone), but any player who considers dropping 5-10 dimes of action each night should never have to endure such treatment.

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gametime,

I will call Intertops tomorrow on your behalf...

It appears that you deserved better treament than what you got...

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maybe they aren't licensed for phone wagering. could be that simple
 

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I would be VERY careful about betting any large amount like that at Intertops...

Someone I know placed a $1100 bet on the Marlins to win the World Series there at 125-1 odds. They took the bet during the season, and had no problem with it. But, after the Marlins won the World Series, they manually changed his payout from $138,600 to $100,000. There should be more details on this soon since he is about to go public. Intertops said they had a rule that limited any players winnings for any week to $100,000. They admitted they would have taken the full $1100 if the Marlins lost. There is more to this story that will probably be made public soon.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SoCal:
maybe they aren't licensed for phone wagering. could be that simple<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Intertops never accepts phone bets. I certainly have tried on a couple of occasions.

This guy has no case, and really has no gripe, other than the website being down, which is unfortunate but certainly not unique to Intertops these days.

Shrink, not sure what you're trying to accomplish by contacting Intertops. Friend of yours ?

[This message was edited by Halifax on January 24, 2004 at 02:37 AM.]
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dolphinsfan:
I would be VERY careful about betting any large amount like that at Intertops...

Someone I know placed a $1100 bet on the Marlins to win the World Series there at 125-1 odds. They took the bet during the season, and had no problem with it. But, after the Marlins won the World Series, they manually changed his payout from $138,600 to $100,000. There should be more details on this soon since he is about to go public. Intertops said they had a rule that limited any players winnings for any week to $100,000. They admitted they would have taken the full $1100 if the Marlins lost. There is more to this story that will probably be made public soon.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can't wait for the details. Keep us posted.

It drives me nuts when books accept wagers (or their software accepts wagers), and then they won't honor the wager because it exceeds their limits.

Some thoughts:

1) If your software is going to allow wagers that exceed the limits, then you need to get new software! If a player has 15-20 books, can you really expect the player to know the limits for every sport @ every book? Lots of players don't know the limits, they just wager whatever the software will allow.
2) If the software allows a wager that exceeds the limits, I have no problem if the book cancels the wager BEFORE the event or before a major line-change. But I don't like it when hours/days pass before the event, and then the book cancels after the event.
 

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Nothing wrong in my book on limiting his wager to $100,000. Most books have that figure set in stone as maximum winnings per bet I believe.


But if HE GETS even paid the $100,000, I will be suprised. But I am sure that they will take it
 

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Normally I would side with the player but in this circumstance the rules clearly state that 100K is the limit for winnings in a week. Had he read the rules prior to wagering he could have augmented his amount. Will Hill has the same rule. There are probably others as well. It's a shame, but 100% preventable. If I'm not mistaken, this issue was brought up about two weeks after the series ended.
 

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LOL;

I don't know which part of the story is more ludicrous....

a) a "recreational" 2-5 dime bettor

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b) Intertops sportsbook, the home of low limit wagering, taking that kind of action.

Sell it somewhere else bud...
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Uncle Moneybags:
Normally I would side with the player but in this circumstance the rules clearly state that 100K is the limit for winnings in a week. Had he read the rules prior to wagering he could have augmented his amount. Will Hill has the same rule. There are probably others as well. It's a shame, but 100% preventable. If I'm not mistaken, this issue was brought up about two weeks after the series ended.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're right, it would've been 100% preventable if the software didn't allow a wager that was gonna pay greater than $100,000!!!!
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I'm not a programming wizard, but how difficult is it to include an if/then statement?

IF {result} > 100000, THEN *decline wager*
 

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Intertops printed out the ticket that said:
"$1,100 to win $138,600"

And, this bet stayed in their system for months. If they did not want to accept the bet, they had plenty of time to void the bet. But, they knowily accepted it. By them printing the ticket and knowily keeping it until the World Series ended without mentioning a thing, they are accepting the bet.

Intertops advertises people hitting $100k+ jackpots all the time also! How can this even be possible if they only let the player win $100k max a week. They said that their rules only enable someone to win $100k during a week span no matter how many bets they place. They have no problem in someone losing $200k in one week, but if someone went 15-2 in a week and bet $10k on each game, Intertops will only pay the player $100k.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pokherplyr:
LOL;

I don't know which part of the story is more ludicrous....

a) a "recreational" 2-5 dime bettor

or

b) Intertops sportsbook, the home of low limit wagering, taking that kind of action.

Sell it somewhere else bud...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I noticed that too, but I haven't played @ Intertops in years...so I wasn't sure if their limits were still painfully low. Guess they are?
 

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I tried to login and their site was just too slow or I would have posted their rules. I understand what you're saying, dolphinfan. I don't see how you can win because the 100K cap predates the Marlins wager and I don't remember reading a provision for instances such as these. If the money is paid count your blessings, but at the same time don't get your hopes up.
 

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Anyone that bets 1-5 dimes is not considered recreational by any shop. And if you are a 1-5 dime player what the hell are you doing betting into these clowns. Lastly if I can afford to play 1-5 dimes of action a night, I'd probably consider having MORE THAN ONE BOOK FUNDED!!!!
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[This message was edited by harrington on January 24, 2004 at 07:22 AM.]
 

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