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I met someone yesterday that's in the know about the Panam situation. He post here but not on a regular basis. He said he knew what was going on down in Panama but didn't post anything on the forums because of the bashing most people receive asking for PROOF.

It wasn't worth the headache and because he has very few posts, the bashing would have been triple times what other posters receive
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He however was positive that everybody would be paid out.
 

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In a way you are bashing the bashers for an attemped bash that never happened because the person was afraid he would get bashed for posting.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by buddyboy:
In a way you are bashing the bashers for an attemped bash that never happened because the person was afraid he would get bashed for posting.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by buddyboy:
In a way you are bashing the bashers for an attemped bash that never happened because the person was afraid he would get bashed for posting.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Buddyboy, in a way you are bashing the basher who bashed the bashers that might have bashed a basher for a bash that never happened.


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I am not bashing anyone. I am just pointing out why people in the know are afraid to post here anymore.

I could care less since I never had a cent in Panam and never will.
 

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People are afraid to post on an internet message board because people they don't know will type mean things? Seems kind of silly. And if they really are knowledgable about the situation providing proof shouldn't be difficult.
 

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No joke Truthteller.

Look what happened when Kongem posted about his situation. He wasn't even posting rumors, he was posting the FACT that PanAm ripped him off. PanAm being borke makes up some lame bonus scamming excuse and the RX patrol who back any recommoneded book proclaim the player a scammer.

Low and behold it turns out PanAm is in trouble. Now I haven't checked that thread today but I doubt the bashers are apalogizing to Kengom for doubting his story.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I am just pointing out why people in the know are afraid to post here anymore.
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This person or people have not been paying much attention as we do not condone any bashing outside the Rubber Room.

He/she/they may feel they shouldn't post a warning without solid evidence and that is a good idea.

Rumors have done alot of monetary harm to good sportsbooks, but the mods will handle these issues and will not accept the bashing, but we will look into any info that is posted by anyone to try and substantiate.

Had there never been any posters that posted lies/rumors about good sportsbooks, then we would not have any issue here.

We are never going to be perfect, but the mods are trying to do their best.

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The first person to complain of being slow paid always gets bashed and accused of being a scammer, etc. Do you want to know why? Because the bashers are pulling their money out and hoping to cause YOU to hesitate.

Same goes for this "provide us with proof" crap. Just a stall.
 

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In Kongens case, their is still a dispute and he had a legit issue to argue over. We were well aware of his problems before he posted it. His case was no reason to think that Panam was in trouble when it developed.
 

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General,

In the Panam case, what kind of proof would you have needed to see from this guy in order to leave the thread up.

Remember alot of the people in the know including myself, do not go in depth about sources in order to protect the people sharing this info.
 

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I do not believe the thread was ever taken down as I, for one, was very involved for a week or more before it hit the forum. I may have been the 1st contacted.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Remember alot of the people in the know including myself, do not go in depth about sources in order to protect the people sharing this info. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can appreciate that. It's a tough line.
 

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Thread wasn't taken down.


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I have a feeling that "dispute over a legitimate issue" that PanAm came up with was about as honest and truthful as Sting posting that PanAm did not have one losing week all football season!
 

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Kongens case was confirmed by Panam. They did not want to pay what they considered bonus whores playing a game. They may or may not be right. Sting will get the skinny on this while in panama next week.
 

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I'm sure it was confirmed by PanAM. I have zero doubt whatsoever that he is getting stiffed for that stated reason. My point is that the abuse PanAm is claiming has a 95% chance of being total bullshit as the player claims. Funny how only one book is suddenly getting hit by the "European syndicates" and "scamming Scandinavians" also turns out to be broke. Just too big a coincidence to me. They don't give away the most lucrative bonuses or have the juiciest lines by any means. They are an unlikely target.

In my mind , more then likely.......
Broke book = Making up bullshit excuses to not pay the player.
 

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My friend was being slow paid by these guys as long as 2 weeks ago. But people with information are reluctant to provide it because:

But who wants to help a forum full of?

Scalpers
Middlers
Bonus Whores
Scammers
Attention Whores
Degenerates
$10 squares
Thieves


When all these bonus whores lose money it makes me and others in the know indirectly richer. People being slow paid by a book have more incentive to post they are getting paid fine than to post slow pay and cause a run.

The sooner all you guys wake up the better. Those in the know get out and all the groups listed above are left with nothing.
 

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The first week in January, possibly earlier, there began to be heard rumblings here and at the other forums regarding PanAm. Most of what was said was what I consider to be warnings rather than bashings. Reports of quickly falling limits, half-time lines changing far too often at the confirmation screen sometimes simply not allowing a bet on a given side at all as happened to me in the LSU game. Hassles being tranfered from clerks to managers in requesting payouts and grumblings of general dissatifaction grew from a trickle to an outpouring in a matter of days. Nothing concrete yet though. But that should have been enough.

I withdrew my balance of a dime and a half the day after the Sugar Bowl. Yes I was pissed about the night before and pissed about being transferred around from clerk to manager to yet another manager. I could sense their reluctance, but I got my Neteller quickly. I'm by no means patting myself on the back for acting quickly and I most sincerely hope that all of you get every last dollar that is owed to you.

I didn't act quickly in the GA debacle but was very lucky indeed to come out with a handsome profit. I thank Royal greatly and will play with them again if and when I feel safe there. However I owe them nothing more than a thank you. The money I made is my money now and I refuse to expose it to undue risk. This business at this times requires a high degree of risk management. Risk maagement on top of the already obvious necessity of risk management is not pleasant situation.

The point here is that when you begin to see the handwriting on the walls of these forums take it seriously these days. Go head and start the run on the book and feel no phucking remorse: its your money and the stores that die should die and the sooner the better. Be a speed horse as these runs begin. Get out of the gate fast, first and get your money. Cause I'm thinking we're gonna see a few more runs and soon.

I know little about the offshore world, but you don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
 

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