Stephen Nover says "yes" in his column, which can be read by going to the RX home page at www.theprescription.com
Charlie
Charlie
Explain to me how Ryno makes the HOF and Dewey is not only not in, but OFF the ballot????
Personally, I am getting sick of these HOF debates on who should be in and who should be out.
Lets just put everybody in that plays at least 10 years.
And dont want to hear this crap about how these debates are good for bartalk and the game. It makes a mochery of a great sport, that is all it does.
Personally, I am getting sick of these HOF debates on who should be in and who should be out.
Lets just put everybody in that plays at least 10 years.
And dont want to hear this crap about how these debates are good for bartalk and the game. It makes a mochery of a great sport, that is all it does.
No question about it. I like Nover's analysis. The way I see it, if you are one of the top 2 or 3 at your position during your era you should be in the Hall. Period. Sandberg is one of the top few 2B of all-time, let alone his era. Same for Santo being one of the top 3 3B of his ERA. And having only 2 relivers in the Hall is a travesty as well. Outfielders are overrepresented.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Journeyman:
I`d take Dewey over Sandberg`s career anyday...Jim Rice too for that matter, hell throw in Fred Lynn,lol....Well Lynn I was reaching some lol....1975 in Boston !<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Shoot, you may as well throw in Tony Armas while your at it JMAN.
I`d take Dewey over Sandberg`s career anyday...Jim Rice too for that matter, hell throw in Fred Lynn,lol....Well Lynn I was reaching some lol....1975 in Boston !<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Shoot, you may as well throw in Tony Armas while your at it JMAN.
Baseball Hall of Fame is a joke, there is all kinds of overrated trash in there. Don Sutton for example. Why should Ryan Sandberg be in HOF? What if he was on the Astros instead of the Cubs? It would not be an issue. Ryne Sandberg was Mario Soto's little bitch, put Mario Soto in HOF first.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wilheim:
Ryne Sanberg Stats:
2164 Games - 8385 ABs -2386 Hits - 1318 Runs -403 Doubles - 76 Triples - 282 HRs - 1061 RBI - 762 Walks - 344 Stolen bases - .285 Ave. .452 Slug. ave.
wil.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
DWIGHT EVANS
2446 Hits - 1470 Runs - 1384 RBI - 385 HR - 1391 Walks
Plus arguably the greatest outfield arm EVER and winner of NINE Gold Gloves!
OFF THE FREAKING BALLOT!! GIVE ME A BREAK!!
Ryne Sanberg Stats:
2164 Games - 8385 ABs -2386 Hits - 1318 Runs -403 Doubles - 76 Triples - 282 HRs - 1061 RBI - 762 Walks - 344 Stolen bases - .285 Ave. .452 Slug. ave.
wil.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
DWIGHT EVANS
2446 Hits - 1470 Runs - 1384 RBI - 385 HR - 1391 Walks
Plus arguably the greatest outfield arm EVER and winner of NINE Gold Gloves!
OFF THE FREAKING BALLOT!! GIVE ME A BREAK!!
Good point Fish. Here is a link to the ballot:
Hall of Fame Ballot
MVB - not sure if I can come up with career road batting ave. without some serious research.
wil.
Hall of Fame Ballot
MVB - not sure if I can come up with career road batting ave. without some serious research.
wil.
Leon Durham wasn`t exactly the best protection ,lol....I would not vote him in though...the end of his career was too iffy, hge walked away tried a comeback, his road stats were not all that impressive...Mattingly Evans and Rice more deserving....
Sutton I believe never won 20?? but did win alot of big games...Why did he where that perm though, wow!
Sutton I believe never won 20?? but did win alot of big games...Why did he where that perm though, wow!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Railbird:
Sandberg got pitches to hit with Durham behind him, I wonder what his avrrage was on the road. Im guessing about .260<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ryne Sanberg was good because of Leon Durham? You gotta be kidding, right?
Guys, name more than one 2B, if any, who was overall better than Ryno between 1980 and 1995? If you can't, then case closed. Somehow I think I could name more than 1 leftfielder (or did Evans play right?) better than him during a similar 15 year span. Probably a dozen or more.
Sandberg got pitches to hit with Durham behind him, I wonder what his avrrage was on the road. Im guessing about .260<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ryne Sanberg was good because of Leon Durham? You gotta be kidding, right?
Guys, name more than one 2B, if any, who was overall better than Ryno between 1980 and 1995? If you can't, then case closed. Somehow I think I could name more than 1 leftfielder (or did Evans play right?) better than him during a similar 15 year span. Probably a dozen or more.
