The solution to the Pete Rose reinstatement issue

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My recommendation is that Pete Rose be made eligible for the Hall of Fame but kept banned from participating in the sport.

There's no way this person should be allowed to have any influence on a baseball game. A degenerate gambler in control of a sporting event in which money is wagered is not a healthy combination and doesn't give baseball a good image. Of course Selig knows this, and that's probably why Rose hasn't been allowed back in yet.

I can just see Charlie Hustler now, managing the Reds. The Reds are playing the Mets. Their ace (we'll pretend that's Paul Wilson, since they don't really have a good pitcher now that they got rid of Heredia) tells Pete that he's feeling a bit under the weather and wants an extra day off.

Rose knows there's a bet to be cashed here and tells Wilson: "Nope, Paul: you can suck it in and tough it out like everybody else. You're starting today." Then he goes into his office, gets on the cellphone, and gets twenty dimes down on the Mets.

Wilson goes out and throws a one-hitter for the first five innings, while the Reds' usually futile bats ignite, scoring six runs.

Rose: Okay, good job, Paul. (gets on dugout phone and calls the bullpen). Jimmy (Haynes): warm up, you're going in next inning.

Wilson: Why are you pulling me, Pete?

Rose: You look tired.

Wilson: I feel great.

Rose: You said earlier you were a little under the weather. No sense risking your getting hurt.

Wilson: Oh, that! No, that was just something I ate last night. A trip to the bathroom, and I was fine. You were right about making me tough it out. I feel like I can go the whole nine innings!

Rose: Sorry, Paul, you're too valuable to the Reds. You're out.

Sean Casey: So you're pulling him for a pitcher with a 6.30 ERA?

Rose: Yep. With a six run lead, he should be okay. He can use the work.

Ray Olmedo: Pete: Jimmy just pitched two days ago, remember? He got shelled for eight runs in the first two innings and was yanked.

Rose (angrily): I remember that! I had ten thousand.....erm..... ten thousand good reasons to pull him earlier and didn't! He didn't work long then, so he'll be fresh now.

Wilson: Pete: I'm feeling fine. I can go at least another two innings.

Rose: And I have twenty dimes.....I mean, twenty guys trying to tell me how to do my job. Hit the showers.

(Haynes allows four runs in that inning and comes into the dugout looking spent).

Rose: Attaway, Jimmy, good job!

Haynes: Good job? I let in four runs!

Rose: Yeah, but your control looks better than it did Sunday. They just got some lucky swings. You'll do better next inning!

Ray Olmedo: Boss, with all due respect to Jimmy, they were shelling him. He was lucky to get out with just four runs.

Rose: Ray: I'm the one with over 10,000 hits and 30 years of experience. I know when they're lucky swings or when they're shelling a pitcher. Jimmy stays in.

Haynes: My arm's a bit sore, Pete.

Rose (mocking): My arms a bit sore, Pete. (normal voice): When I was playing we played no matter how bad we felt! You go back out there and pitch!

Olmedo: Pete: didn't you just tell Paul to take it easy because you don't want him to get hurt.

Rose: Stop putting words in my mouth! I know what I'm doing.

(The Reds don't score in the sixth, and Haynes allows another four runs in the seventh. Rose's mood brightens considerably).

Haynes: My arm is really bothering me, Pete.

Rose: Okay, hit the showers. No sense in risking injury.

Casey: Boss, didn't you just say last inning---

Rose: Never mind that! I didn't know he was really hurt then! (gets on phone to bullpen): Ryan (Dempster): warm up. You're going in next inning!

Juan Castro: Boss, have you been bobbing for pickles again? Dempster is pitching terrible right now.

Rose: This will be a good spot for him then.

Olmedo: Why? We're only two runs down.

Rose: I know. It'll give him a good chance to perform under pressure. You have to have faith in your players, you know!

(Dempster allows two runs, and the Reds go into the ninth inning down 10-6).

Rose: Okay, guys, bottom of the order up! Let's get some hits! (chuckles to himself).

(The 7th and 8th men in the lineup proceed to single)

Rose: Okay, Dempster, you're up!

Jason LaRue: Uh, Pete, don't you think it might be a good idea to send in a pinch hitter?

Rose: No, I don't! He needs to learn how to bat. We might go to the World Series this year!

Casey: Not if we don't get a new manager.

Rose: What was that?

Casey: I said: Does anybody have a bandage? I cut my finger.

Rose: Oh! (Watches Dempster hit a liner into left-center for a single) Dammit!

LaRue: Why are you complaining? He got a hit!

Rose (catches himself): Oh, he did? I thought the shortstop caught it! That's what happens when you get old, hehe.

(The Mets manage to get two outs, then Casey clears the bases with a triple to cut the lead to one, 8-7. The players congratulate each guy as he enters the dugout. Rose half-heartedly joins in).

Austin Kearns: I'm up, and I think I'll just hit a homer and end it!

Rose (obviously sweating): No you won't!

Kearns: What do you mean I won't?

Rose: You're not batting. We're sending in a pinch hitter.

Kearns: A pinch hitter? I'm 10 for my last 23 with three homers!

Rose: Yep, and you don't follow orders. I don't want you swinging for the fences. I want you to get on base.

Kearns: Fine, then I'll just swing for a hit.

Rose: Nope, you'd still try for a homer. I need somebody that will try for a hit! (Looks around): Brandon (Larson): you're up.

Larson: Me?

Rose: No, the OTHER guy in here named Brandon Larson. Yes, you!

Olmedo: Pete, with all due respect, I like Brandon as much as anybody else, but he's something like 2 for his last 30.

Rose: Then this will be a good place for him to break out of his slump. Did you ever hear of having confidence in your players?

Brandon: Thanks, Boss. I'll do the best I can.

(Larson goes up to the plate, and gets two fast swinging strikes against him).

Rose: Yes! Way to go!

Casey: You're happy he's 0 and 2?

Rose (catches himself): No, I'm happy he's in there taking his swings. I don't want my players taking called strikes!

(Larson swings wildly at the next pitch, nails it on the button, and sends it into the left field seats to win the game for the Reds.)

Rose: ARRRRGH! (Throws a bat at the dugout wall in anger).

Casey: Geez, Pete, you'd think you had a bet on the Mets or something.

Rose: Bet? I don't have a bet on the Mets!....erm.. I always throw a bat when a guy gets a game winner. It's an old ritual!

Castro: I never saw you do it before.

Rose: I'm starting to do it again now (throws another bat against the wall).

(Two months later, in the Hillerich & Bradsby (makers of Louisville Slugger bats) head office, the controller is talking to the president)

John Hillerich (CEO): Stan: I see we got another order for bats from the Reds. They're ordering four times as many as any other club.

Bob Johnson: Yep, it has something to do with a ritual of theirs.

Hillerich: A ritual?

Johnson: Yep, whenever a player hits a game winner, everybody grabs a bat from the rack and throws it against the dugout wall. Of course, some of them break.

Hillerich: They throw the bats against the wall? I like more sales of course, but who thought up that silly idea?

Johnson: The manager.

Hillerich: Pete Rose did?

Johnson: Yes. He started it the night one of his players hit a walkoff homer.

Hillerich: Oh well, Rose doesn't have too much upstairs anyway, what with his getting banned for gambling on Reds games and then lying about it for fifteen years.

Johnson: Yeah, you'd think that a guy who had everything going for him would have more sense.

[This message was edited by The Old Ballgame on January 03, 2004 at 04:40 PM.]
 

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my recommendation is that pete rose NEVER be allowed into the HOF or have anything to do with beisbol.

he gambled ON mlb games. for those who have never been to a MLB clubhouse - just before you enter one - there is a sign saying NO gambling on beisbol is allowed.

pete rose violated that hard fast rule. he needs to pay the punishment for it.

are there less than "savory" characters in the HOF? YES! no argument about it - but they are in - and once in there is nothing you can do about it. in the nfl - they have oj simpson - a man who murdered his wife and her friend/lover. but he did that AFTER he got into the HOF - so he should stay in - and also - the nfl states getting into the HOF is ONLY based upon what you did on the field - nothing else - and under that criteria - oj should be in.

for mlb - it is different. why should we now open up our arms and embrace pete rose for coming clean after lying to us all for so long? the man committed the cardinal sin of ANY sport - so his reward is making him eligible for the HOF? NO! he should be 100% banned from mlb for life - and NEVER allowed to be involved with any team's innerworkings.

can he show up at oldtimers' games and stuff like that - YES! but manage or work in a front office - NO!

he made his bed - he has to lie in it - with "lie" being a key word here.
 

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