BC Bets Rating Change from SBR

JoeyC · Nov 18, 2003

11/08/03 BCBets raised from B- to B

From sportsbook review.

Fishhead · Nov 18, 2003

The move was long overdue.

lander · Nov 18, 2003

11/08/03 BCBets lowered from A to F-

From lander regarding the robustness of the BCBets feed

DannyMay · Nov 18, 2003

Does anyone have details as to why Las Palmas was dropped from B+ to C+ on 11/08 ?

BSBboy · Nov 18, 2003

BCbets = Solid

SunDevil · Nov 18, 2003

Danny, methinks it was their perennial software issues, but if you can get Buzz's attention I'm sure he'll comment.

JoeyC · Nov 18, 2003

Lander:

I understand that's intentional.

Fishhead · Nov 18, 2003

BC is one of my favorite outs!

Buzzsaw · Nov 18, 2003

On BC;
The question comes up a lot; If grande owns BC Bets why are they not a B+ too?

Because in these family of books there are earnout clauses and other factors. Remember Jazz bought GCS? Then later we learn there were underlying issues. When a book starts another book like Oly did with BetJamaica its easier to allow that book to assume the parent books rating.

By the way, it takes a rating of B or higher to make the SBR Recommended List

, it's a nice upgrade for a great book. No more shadows of CRIS and still more versatile than big daddy Grande.

PanchoSanza · Nov 18, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Joey C:
11/08/03 BCBets raised from B- to B

From sportsbook review.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is Salim playing there again?

lander · Nov 18, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Joey C:
Lander:

I understand that's intentional.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If so, it would be *presumably* quite unprofessional. I've recommended that unstable feeds be placed towards the end, as it only hurt the players and the FREE service that we offer.

Hopefully, this is a one time occurance.

JoeyC · Nov 18, 2003

Lander:

Should be removed would make more sense to me

JoeyC · Nov 18, 2003

Sancho Panza:

He'll be out soon I hear.

Why don't you pay him a visit. He could certainly use some pointers with betting from a pro like you.

lander · Nov 18, 2003

IMO BC's absensce wouldn't be a major disaster as players still have access to lines of SOLID shops like Grande ... in fact, they seemed to have similiar opinions, so we'll take your recomendation under consideration.

lander · Nov 18, 2003

Joey,
I've spoken with management, and it is our main intention to provide the users with a fast, reliable, free & most importantly - USEFUL solution. I regret to say that these factors have forced us to make the difficult decision to remove BCBets from the live line feed as their feed is unstable. Having a feed that works *sometimes* is misleading to the posters and essentially worthless.

I am confident that BCBets and it's very capable IT staff will work diligently with the RX to resolve this problem in the near future.

-Lander

JoeyC · Nov 18, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> it's very capable IT staff will work diligently with <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lander, how many more times will your capable IT staff be down today?

Difficult decision? Hell, it took you a 30 second whining phone call to Ken..

TheGeneral+ · Nov 19, 2003

BCBets has proven to be a solid shop here.

Good move

lander · Nov 19, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Joey C:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> it's very capable IT staff will work diligently with <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lander, how many more times will your capable IT staff be down today?

Difficult decision? Hell, it took you a 30 second whining phone call to Ken..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Joey,
With all due respect, if our lines service goes down it is because of temporary networking issues or upgrades. These are rare occurances, and I assure you that we do all we can to keep our service up at all times and provide the best product that we can provide.

On the other hand, I have learned that BCBets intentionally pulled their feed from the RX as a childish means for getting a better position. We had 14, now 13, books, so as you can imagine not everyone can be first. We were not told of BC's intents until AFTER we contacted them to inquire about the feed being down. This is unprofessional and unacceptable.

Now BC as a shop - i'd trust a huge chunk of bank there, but as a partner with the lines, we simply cannot work together with a book that is seemingly working against us.

I wish BCBets the best of luck. I was a satisfied player with their book, as I suspect everyone else has been.

buddyboy · Nov 19, 2003

a book that brings in a total revenue of 935.8 million and after tax profits of 74.5 million gets a C grade... granted that they took in an extra 4.3% in revenue from the previous year while showing a decrease of 2.7% in after tax profits....

I'm sure to go from a b- to a b a book would have to increase after tax profit by 25 to 30 million...

these A rated books must take in billions

BCBETS · Nov 19, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> On the other hand, I have learned that BCBets intentionally pulled their feed from the RX as a childish means for getting a better position. We had 14, now 13, books, so as you can imagine not everyone can be first. We were not told of BC's intents until AFTER we contacted them to inquire about the feed being down. This is unprofessional and unacceptable.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lander: You got bad info from Ken. Stick with the programming and keeping your site going kid.

BC pulled it's line feed when you changed our position without prior notification or justification, and in contradiction to Ken's agreement.

Remember Lander, you work there, you don't own the joint.