What will it take to post up at a new book now?

Journeyman · Nov 6, 2003

Gamblers Avenue may have ruined it for sometime for the newer books, or did they?

Taking anything but the customary 10% signup or yearly re-up should be all we should hope for...

No book should offer the ridiculous matchplays and the crazy promos WEEKLY...I don't think it will cut it on this forum anymore....

MadCapper · Nov 6, 2003

correct

Chadster · Nov 6, 2003

a big bonus of course and low rollover

crazyivan24 · Nov 6, 2003

free squares LOL

Chadster · Nov 6, 2003

bettors are gluttons for punishment

MadCapper · Nov 6, 2003

reduced juice
10 cent baseball
10% bonus
3X rollover
freddy

Journeyman · Nov 6, 2003

I was hoping for a serious answer....Maybe there is no real answer...it is gambling...Gut instinct??? Last year when I was taken for a ride by BETMEGA, I knew as soon as I talked to the clown running the place something was fishy...A month later no one was getting paid...Its gut instinct...Too good to be true IS! The thing that first had me concerned , he told me 1 free W.U. per month, then when I tried to get it, he said he made a mistake, then tried to make me feel guilty for being disappointed...Craig AHOLLEE was his name...

lakerfan · Nov 6, 2003

Journey - I would take the 20% at PanAm (but I am already there). I think it goes beyond just the bonus amount. But the amount should be a consideration.

I do think you are right about new books with bonuses. Have to be very careful.

I also took MVPSportsbook.com on their 50% ($250 max bonus). They have done that for several years and are still around. And it even did some good for them as I never really consider them as an out before. As it is, I put more in with them on a couple of future bets.

Journeyman · Nov 6, 2003

Lakerfan--- I can see an every now and again matchplay even 50%up to 250, but this Monte Hall lets make deal stuff, "harrington" made a thread about his 1000th post and was offered 100% on a dime?? thats just NUTS!

WalkofLife · Nov 6, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>a big bonus of course and low rollover

bettors are gluttons for punishment<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wise words by Jay Leno. Everytime that a new book offers high bonuses, a bonus whore thinks twice or thrice about the risk. He then stops to weight the actual risk of not getting paid and then he jumps asshole first into the pole, praying God he'll have enough time to cash out from other people's post-ups. Sometime he lands right on the pole (G.A.), sometimes he misses and he will live one more day to try it one more time in the future.

After things like this happen, the only new books that will strive to survive will be those backed-up by big names in the industry. Names that can vouch for the financial liquidity of the new shop. And I'd dare to say, these new shops will soon become nothing more than sharp shops opening square options.

DARWINISM at its best, but now at very advanced stages.

lakerfan · Nov 6, 2003

Journey, agree on Monte Hall style. I think for at least a while books that operate like that will be viewed with alarm. Ewinner posted a 15% offer over at Peeps and I don't think it went over too well.

I view PanAm as a book with good backing, experienced people running it, and trying to make a great offer to get customers in the door. So I would take a shot with them. But in the long run if their business model was to offer 20% bonus and reduced juice, I would run away as fast as possible.

harrington · Nov 6, 2003

I normally would never post up with a new book but I did drop a small amount in Bet Jamaica because of the Greek endorsing them. Only the top books normally though for me.

Journeyman · Nov 6, 2003

Good points Lakerfan...

bigd0gg · Nov 6, 2003

Betting options, software and credibilty.

These books that don't make it always end up using the same software. The books who have unique software tend to be around for the long haul.

WildBill · Nov 6, 2003

I personally don't think it matters as much as it used to. Problem is too many frickin games go off with the same number across the board. The reason to have a lot of outs is to get shopping opportunities, but in many cases they seem to have dried up. If 80% of the time Pinnacle gives me the best, having a list of books to shop after them becomes less important...

GringoinCR · Nov 6, 2003

It seems like this gets asked every two weeks. Or at least everytime a book goes under, which might be every two weeks this season.

Why bet with any new book? Play with the books that have been around MANY years. Not one year, not two years, not three years. Play with the books that have not have any problems with payouts.

That should save you 99% of the time. Nothing is 100% besides death.

Any other "bonuses" you get along the way are just that, bonuses. Not to be expected, but additional bonuses to what you are really looking for.

Betting
Getting paid

blueedwards · Nov 6, 2003

i've been scared straight...only pinnacle, bowmans and heritage for me.

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