What kind of people are Rio, Skybook, and IIS...

bhbookie · Nov 2, 2003

Well as most of you know, Russ from MajorWager had a lot to say about them. Claiming that they had money problems, etc.

I stood up for them since I've done many transfers with them in the past, some of which in the last month and never had any problems. I also worked for them for close to 5 years and know they are good people. Expecially my friend Dave.

Because of MW's attacks on them, I chose to take BHB down of their site. They hadn't done much for us anyway so it wasnt that bad of a decision. I had prepaid the year, and had an unused balance of 10k.

MW decided to keep the 10k and not refund us anything. Even though their was no contract that stated we couldnt cancel. Even though we offered to pay full retail for what exposure we did get. And even though they didnt earn it.

My friends at Rio called me up this weekend and said they wanted to pay us the 10k MW kept.

I thought you all should know that since it shows what kind of people are behind Rio. Good, honest, generous people.

Thanks Rio

-scott

[This message was edited by GotBookie.com on November 03, 2003 at 09:37 PM.]

crazyivan24 · Nov 2, 2003

And you got free money?

bhbookie · Nov 2, 2003

Not really "free", more like they paid us the 10k that Russ kept.

Shows great character and generousity on Rio's part.

Guest · Nov 2, 2003

Hmmm what does this say about the people across the street? So BHB pays 10k for ads...then decides they want to pull out because of slander against another book by one of the website's principles and the site keeps ALL of their money?

So Scott you paid 10k for how much advertising? We better lock our doors because it sounds like the neighbors are thieves.

nets2k2 · Nov 2, 2003

And shows what kind of people you are to take it...

bhbookie · Nov 2, 2003

Sportsbet - We paid them 15k for the year, thats 1250 per month if you go the full year. Their retail price per month is 2k. They kept ALL of the $. Rio bailed us out on the loss. Figured everyone should know it since the whole ordeal was open to the public.

Nets2k2 - If I offered you 10k, would you take it.......

-scott

crazyivan24 · Nov 2, 2003

"And shows what kind of people you are to take it..."

Good Point! Very suprise RIO would offer it and BHB would take it...

TEASERGURU · Nov 2, 2003

I heard that story was true. The higher ups at Rio were so appreciative of the fact that BHB publicly got their back that they said, "What the fuk, as a token of our appreciation, we will throw you the money that Russ screwed you out of." If that rumour is true, and I have heard that it is, it is very very hard for me to believe that rio has any financial issues. All I can say is that was a classy move on their part. I heard russ doesn't even tip waiters 10%, let alone throw someone 10k for a nice gesture. LOLOLOL. Rio, you have been a great book, and I will continue to play with you and thank you for the free half points. Your sister book IIS is awesome with 105 juice, but I wish you would increase my limits.

nets2k2 · Nov 2, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by GotBookie.com:
Sportsbet - We paid them 15k for the year, thats 1250 per month if you go the full year. Their retail price per month is 2k. They kept ALL of the $. Rio bailed us out on the loss. Figured everyone should know it since the whole ordeal was open to the public.

Nets2k2 - If I offered you 10k, would you take it.......

-scott<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

BHB, I just find it rather funny that 3weeks ago when this whole situation was happening, how you were stressing the point that you were willing to forgoe 10K to make a point and that you guys were really not in the need of that money. But here you are now, accepting the 10k. So BHB whats the deal? Was the money important to you or not? Was the whole point of you trying to "stand up for your friends" a way out of your contract with Majorwager and hoping to get a refund of your money? Obviously that didn't work as they didnt refund your money. But now you got 10k from RIO.

In my opinion its not a classy thing to do. If you wanted to really make the point which you were trying to, then you would have not accepted this money from RIO.

If you say its not about the money, then dont make the money an issue. You supposedly stood up for your friends at RIO because you new MW was LYING. But now you get paid 10K from RIO just makes you look worse.

Guest · Nov 2, 2003

This sounds like BHB was standing up for Rio and Rio returned in kind with the money BHB had "spent" over there.

SPENT is in quotes for a reason. I could care less if BHB took the money from Rio. The fact that they were put in that position in the first place is ridiculous. If there was nothing in writing why wouldn't MW want to come to some sort of solution that would satisfy both sides rather than just keep all the money and rip BHB off?

In any case kudos to Rio for stepping up to the plate for BHB backing them up and kudos to BHB for standing up for what they believed was the right thing here. What a shame that something like this had to happen at all.

WINNINGHAND · Nov 2, 2003

Nets2k2 very good point. BHB, sure it was a HUGE gesture of kindness for Rio to offer you and pay you the 10k for sticking your neck out for them. However, Nets2k2 is 100% right about the fact that you have now lost all of your credibility with me and i am sure everyone else in these forums. You talked about the importance of principle, and that you the reason you pulled was only about principle. the fact that you accepted the 10k from rio shows that principle means nothing to you. If you had some class, you would simply say thank you very much rio, but I can't accept your offer. You took the money, and that lowers you to the level of Russ as far as I'm concerned. If rio had offered me the money and I accepted it, I certainly wouldn't admit it in this public forum. You spoke about principles, and it appears that you pulled this stunt hoping that you could get a refund from russ because you were unhappy withyour ROI from his site. When russ wouldn't pay, you took rio's money. You seem to me to be no better than lowlife russ in my eyes. BHB, salvage a little class--give rio the money back. If you won't do that then at least give it to a good charity.

nepenthe · Nov 2, 2003

Winninghand, you said: "If rio had offered me the money and I accepted it, I certainly wouldn't admit it in this public forum."

And YOU are berating BHB for having the temerity to admit it in this public forum. You, sir, are in no position to blame anyone of moral turpitude. Tsk tsk.

PatrickMcIrish · Nov 2, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by sportsbet:
This sounds like BHB was standing up for Rio and Rio returned in kind with the money BHB had "spent" over there.

SPENT is in quotes for a reason. I could care less if BHB took the money from Rio. The fact that they were put in that position in the first place is ridiculous. If there was nothing in writing why wouldn't MW want to come to some sort of solution that would satisfy both sides rather than just keep all the money and rip BHB off?

In any case kudos to Rio for stepping up to the plate for BHB backing them up and kudos to BHB for standing up for what they believed was the right thing here. What a shame that something like this had to happen at all.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good post. I come down about here as well. Hoped Russ and BHB could somehow work it out that a deal was struck and perhaps some of the money returned. Even if there was no legal contract that required it some things can still be worked out as men. Often times a compromise is best rather than a hardline stance.

It can be hard to lay back if you feel good friends of yours are getting unfairly slandered. Maybe they felt by staying on the site they were a part of what was going on against Rio? I don't know if he handled it perfectly but I respect what BHB did in this. You can tell a lot about people in how they treat their friends.

Props to Rio as well for showing the same loyalty.

WINNINGHAND · Nov 2, 2003

nepenthe, whatever the f..k that means, could you please post in English. I am not smart enough to decipher your posts. I think that you forget that this is a gambling forum, not post-graduate English at Harvard. Give me a break.

nets2k2 · Nov 2, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> You can tell a lot about people in how they treat their friends.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You said it perfectly Patrick. You really can tell a lot about people in how they treat their friends. Would you take your friends money just for standing up for him? I know I wouldn't, and I would venture to say most people wouldn't either. You help your friend, because they are your FRIEND.

It's like my friend is getting robbed and getting the shit kicked out of. I come and stop it and prevent my friend from losing his wallet. If my friend said here take the 2dimes I had on me that the robber was about to take off of me if it werent for you, it would really show how much I consider this guy a friend if I take his 2dimes wouldn't it?

What BHB was doing in the beginning was very noble on their part, but now they just look like trash.

BHB to answer your question, I would be more then happy to take your 10dimes if you gave it to me. But I wouldn't take it if you were my friend and I had your back when someone was slandering you.

This whole thing just shows how much you think of your "friends" at RIO and makes you look like a hypocrite when supposedly the 10K was worth losing for your friend.

BHB you tried to use this whole situation as publicity for your own book. You wanted people to think wow BHB is soo great. 10K is nothing to them. They are a book run by great honorable people. But eventually you showed your true colors. This whole thing reminds me of people who only do something good for others while EVERYONE is looking so that they can get recognition. But if no one was looking they would never do it. Do something because it is the right thing to do. Not just so you can get props from everyone.

[This message was edited by nets2k2 on November 03, 2003 at 01:51 AM.]

nets2k2 · Nov 2, 2003

I might as well add what else I thought about this whole situation.

I personally would have refunded you your money at the rate that you offered as I wouldnt want to take it if I didnt earn it completely.

Also about your 6 or 8 signups you said you only got from being on Majorwager, I have to say I dont think it is their fault at all. To be frank your book sucks. You offer nothing that would keep us players playing there. Your book is a hit and run type of book. We signup for the 20% bonus you offer and then we get out after we are done with it. So the low amount of new accounts you got from Majorwager only tells me that their posters/players there are not looking for the bonuses only. They are looking at books that they really want to play at. I am sure Olympic gets a nice amount of signups from Majorwager. That should tell you something. That site doesn't suck, it's your book that sucks. Sorry to be harsh but it is the truth. Become a book that people want to play at(low juice, opinionated lines), not just a clone of the 1847 other books out there.

jgerson · Nov 2, 2003

I agree that Rio is the most dependable sportsbook I have played with and I have never had to question them anytime on payouts or plays that I made.

jgerson · Nov 2, 2003

I agree that Rio is the most dependable sportsbook I have played with and I have never had to question them anytime on payouts or plays that I made.

KeithRichard · Nov 3, 2003

jgerson...ok ok, we get it already!

truthteller · Nov 3, 2003

Some of you people on this forum are such fcking whiners that nothing will please you.

All of you that are bitching about BHB accepting the $10,000 wonder what you would do in the same situation.

[This message was edited by truthteller on November 03, 2003 at 01:02 PM.]

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