Has a Sportsbook ever done this to you??

IntuitionBET · Oct 19, 2003

You visit a Sportsbook website just to check it out, and you don't sign up for anything. Maybe you look at their lines, that is if it's a site you can view the lines with out an account.

And then maybe a week or two later you get a email offer from them advertising that book?

I have had it happen several times in the last month.

I guess if they are paying to put their site up and we are visiting it they have a right to know who stopped by and what our IP address is. I suppose it's clever marketing, and maybe it's the norm for many Internet businesses.

But it IS a sneaky way to get your email address.

I don't really mind though as sometimes the email offer they send out is something that DOES interest me.

And I'm usually visiting their site because someone recomended it anyway.

ignorant · Oct 19, 2003

It's highly unlikely if you didn't give your email address yourself.

KeithRichard · Oct 19, 2003

Yes I have noticed this and think it's more than a coincidence.No big deal though.

FunkSoulBrother · Oct 19, 2003

Your email adress has nothing to do with your IP adress. If you did not specify your email adress to them, you will not get spam just by visiting the site.

IntuitionBET · Oct 19, 2003

FunkSoulBrother - I'm not trying to argue with you but you are wrong.

There is software out there that can retrieve your outgoing email address from Outlook etc once your IP address is known.

And there is also software out there that can get your email even faster if you visit a site with Outlook open during your visit.

In most cases you can thank our good buddy Bill Gates for this

TheGeneral+ · Oct 19, 2003

Interesting. I would not have guessed that. not much to do about it.

TTinCO · Oct 19, 2003

It's extremely easy.....

It can have to do with malicious code on the site that you go to, or also any one of a number of "worms" or "trojans" that steal info from your computer.

A personal firewall helps a lot, but is no guarantee-especially if you have a worm\trojan\virus.

If you are not behind some type of firewall, you are asking for trouble.

IntuitionBET · Oct 19, 2003

FunkSoulBrother - Sorry to break it to you my friend but your IP address has alllot to do with your email.

Your IP address is in the header info of EVERY email you send. And most people do not send encrypted emails, they send them in clear text which can be sniffed and the IP address matched up to the out going email address and then there you go.

Actually it's very simple.

But as Keith Richard said above it's no big deal.

crazyivan24 · Oct 19, 2003

Chadster · Oct 19, 2003

yes very sneaky

god forbid someone do some creative thinking to get email addresses that already show you have an interest in there product

IntuitionBET · Oct 19, 2003

Jay Leno - What I think is funny is that every now and then a poster here claims that such and such sportsbook must have sold their name on a list because they are getting emails from books they never had an account at. Those people need to think for a second and see if they have visited the sites of those books. Or a stats site or a handicapping sight etc that may have gotten their email adress and then sold it.

It's really getting to be a normal thing for allot of sites and NOT just sports books

Phaedrus · Oct 19, 2003

IB

Your description of the relationship between e-mails and IP numbers fails to take into account a great many things. Proxy surfing, firewalls, people who don't use Windows or at least Outlook/IE, people with DSL dynamic IPs, people who don't use mailers at all (like myself; six years with the same ISP and never once even checked my "official" e-mail address) ... there are tons and tons of people who would not be effected in the manner you're describing.

To coin a quote:
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Phaedrus

IntuitionBET · Oct 19, 2003

Phaedrus - You are right. As I didn't give many details as you just posted, and there are MANY variables as you must know.

It doesn't happen to everyone.
I'm just talking about the average Joe that Uses Windows, No firewall, No encryption, uses clear text and/or leaves Outlook open while surfing etc etc

And YES if you are sending emails out using clear text from an email client like Outlook without encryption a sniffer can get your IP and email address everytime.

Using something like Yahoo email is actually more secure than using Outlook as the email you send from Yahoo is NOT coming from your PC it is being sent from the Yahoo servers at their location.

Instant Messengers are NOT secure either unless you use one that uses some type of encryption.

ignorant · Oct 19, 2003

IB, take good care of your computer, do not click "yes" when spyware asks for instalation (it always does) and most important: use a firewall. Without it it's like walking naked in Times Square.

As to the sportsbooks selling your name, I think it would be much worse if someone tried to get my email address the way described by you above, rather than acquiring it from a seller.

IntuitionBET · Oct 19, 2003

ignorant - Where you been man? Spyware can be sent on an email from your wife/friend/parent/enemy etc and install without you knowing anything and send emails to that person of everything you do and everyone you send emails to. it's been in the news allot lately and especially in the news over in Italy.

But that's another subject.

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